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Poupou Escobar

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Maybe/Probably not. . But Hayne with his hands on the ball more often last night might have got us the win. . If he's in the halves, do we not maximise that chance, especially in the last 7 games of 2018 that mean jack shit for us??
Getting the ball more often means getting it closer to the ruck, where the defence is tightest. Out wide there is more space but less ball. It's a trade-off. But more is expected of fullbacks and halves (even the ones wearing 6) than just the ability to beat defenders. If you have a back whose main role is to take on the defence you stick him at wing or centre. Whenever Hayne is passing before the line or kicking he is being wasted.
 

Gary Gutful

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you really are a f**king drongo

why do you think the Broncos offered Bellamy a shit load of coin? just for shits and giggles?
Because a good coach is important. I have never suggested otherwise.

That same coach that your are ejaculating in your pants over struggled when he had to coach a bunch of NSW muppets. Was he a shit coach then or was it remotely possible that his players didn’t perform?

Why is it so hard to accept that a coach and players have a role to play in the success of a team.

Only a deadshit would think it is entirely due to the coach.
 

hindy111

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Absolute f**k puppet.

The coach coached them to play like crap? Give yourself a dozen you useless sack of grogans.

At what point do we make the players accountable?

Good coach will have players mental state better prepared. I reckon that is what makes Bellamy so much better. Afterall every other team copies their style. Physiologically he is able to have them always switched on.
 

Gary Gutful

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Good coach will have players mental state better prepared. I reckon that is what makes Bellamy so much better. Afterall every other team copies their style. Physiologically he is able to have them always switched on.
I think Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater have had a lot to do with Bellamy’s success. He has said enough. Do you not agree?
 

Gary Gutful

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get his dick out of your mouth ffs

he's a f**king dud
Stop simplifying the argument you mental midget.

He isn’t going well and I have never suggested otherwise. Your original assertion that he is responsible for everything that is bad is what we discussing. That is overly simplistic and patently untrue.

Stop tongue-ing the arsehole of all of our shithouse players. It’s f**ken sickening.
 

IFR33K

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Do you think a team with Smith, Cronk and Slater would do poorly with a coach other than Bellamy?

Of course they wouldn’t.


You used Bellamy coaching origin as an example, and then went on to mention the above. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Nsw could of had jack Gibson, Wayne Bennett and Bellamy coaching nsw against Cronk, slater and smith, not sure all 3 could of stopped the qld dominance
 

Gary Gutful

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they would never have developed into the players they are now if Arthur was their coach
I watched them all play for the Norths Devils. I also watched Inglis.

They were on a path to greatness before they arrived in Melbourne. Cronk is the possible exception but with his work ethic he would have prospered anywhere.
 

Gary Gutful

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You used Bellamy coaching origin as an example, and then went on to mention the above. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Nsw could of had jack Gibson, Wayne Bennett and Bellamy coaching nsw against Cronk, slater and smith, not sure all 3 could of stopped the qld dominance
So you are agreeing with me that not everything is down to the coach. The players also influence outcomes.

Thanks for your support.
 

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