Rumours and Stuff

[Bolgeel]

Are any of those blokes about to turn 32 and are we offering up a 4 year deal???

Manly only were willing to offer him 2, but we offer him 4. Yeah the club was just unlucky again.

This is exactly the issue regardless of his influence on the team..a 4 year deal for a forward who is 32, and please don’t compare him to Cronk, the best hb of his generation FFS

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Jarryd W Hargreaves
193 cm (6 ft 4 in)
Weight 116 kg (18 st 4 l

Nrl site states he is 108kg, the roosters site states 108kg however your source Wiki could be correct.

Anyhow still only 3 players which Glenneel states is not enough big men for a pack!

 

[chiefy1]

Nrl site states he is 108kg, the roosters site states 108kg however your source Wiki could be correct.

Anyhow still only 3 players which Glenneel states is not enough big men for a pack!

Our pack is not only light, it lacks leg speed. Mannah isn't getting any quicker, Evans runs like a praying mantis with dumbells wrapped around his ankles, and Alvaro although a very good worker, hardly dominates the opposition

 

[hindy111]

Our pack is not only light, it lacks leg speed. Mannah isn't getting any quicker, Evans runs like a praying mantis with dumbells wrapped around his ankles, and Alvaro although a very good worker, hardly dominates the opposition

The forwards will go much better if we start our sets well in the backs.
Ferguson will help a lot. I'd upgrade Jennings wing spot also.
Jnr will add punch. That is 3 positions to help get a roll on.
Then we need to hope Niakuore,Kafusi step up and Gutherson and Hayne get into good form. Then top 4 is possible.

 

[hindy111]

Manu alone will also add some punch out wide.
The pack looks different with him,Lane and Jnr in it. Its 3/9.
I dont see anyone in our pack going backwards. I think Tepai,Lane,Alvaro,Niakuore,Kafusi,Jnr all.have improvement in them and Terepo can still iron out a few details and get better.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Are any of those blokes about to turn 32 and are we offering up a 4 year deal???

Manly only were willing to offer him 2, but we offer him 4. Yeah the club was just unlucky again.

We offered four and he was off our cap in less than two. And he’s the same age as Smith, Slater, Cronk and Thurston, who all played this year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Nailed it. It was a selfish purchase. Short term gain for long term pain.

What did he cost us in the long term? Did he make us run last this year?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Watmough was our best forward when he played?? Lol I call bullshit, I remember he cost us in a few tight games with some stupid rookie errors. He was solid at best, revision history Pou style.

After the coach got him to focus on running rather than playmaking he was strong for us. And his defence was always good.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Was Watmong still in the team by the time Alvaro debuted??? He was injured in the Storm game and the Polar debuted against the Riff later in the season I thought. And we all know he didn’t stick around at training and help the younger blokes because he admitted it himself.

He only said he didn’t socialise with them. Why would he need to? Leadership isn’t talking shit over coffee after training.

 

[hineyrulz]

We offered four and he was off our cap in less than two. And he’s the same age as Smith, Slater, Cronk and Thurston, who all played this year.

Are you seriously comparing an undersized Middle forward who played well above his weight his whole career to two halves who could get through games in a dinner suit and Smith the greatest player of his generation??? Wow!! Smith does a heap of work in the middle but the merkin rarely gets tackled with the ball.

 

[emjaycee]

Well if you don’t laugh you cry, and I sure those two games with Watmong made him into the player he is today. 3 million bucks well spent.

No one said Watmough made Alvaro into the player he is.

I responded to Chiefy's claim regarding Watmough providing NO benefit to our young forwards by staring there was only ONE young forward even debuting when Watmough was at the club.

Exciting times they were hey!!

 

[hineyrulz]

No one said Watmough made Alvaro into the player he is.

I responded to Chiefy's claim regarding Watmough providing NO benefit to our young forwards by staring there was only ONE young forward even debuting when Watmough was at the club.

Exciting times they were hey!!

Very, being an Eels fan is never dull.

 

[hineyrulz]

After the coach got him to focus on running rather than playmaking he was strong for us. And his defence was always good.

Cant argue with any of that, still doesn’t make him our best forward that season.

 

[Gronk]

Players without clubs

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...9/news-story/550a95ff5a05dbe352966bd06f8d7417

BRONCOS

2019 signings: Nil

New deal: Kotoni Staggs (until 2020), Cory Paix (until 2020), Matt Gillett (until 2022), Payne Haas (to 2024), Jamayne Isaako (until 2022), Jaydn Su’a (until 2020)

Leaving: David Mead (immediately to Catalans until 2020), Corey Allan (Rabbitohs from 2019 until 2021), Sam Thaiday (retired), Marion Seve (released to Storm until 2020), Korbin Sims (to Dragons until 2021), Tom Opacic (to Cowboys until 2020)

Off contract: Corey Oates, Moses Pangai, Tevita Pangai, Matt Lodge, Sam Tagataese, Shaun Nona, Jake Turpin, Gehamat Shibasaki, Todd Murphy, Sam Scarlett, George Fai

Coach: Wayne Bennett (until 2019)

RAIDERS

2019 signings: Ryan Sutton (from Wigan to 2020), John Bateman (from Wigan to 2021)

New deal: Josh Papalii (until 2022), Elliot Whitehead (until 2020), Nick Cotric (until 2020), Royce Hunt (until 2019), Josh Hodgson (until 2022), Jack Murchie (until 2020), Luke Bateman (until 2019), Aidan Sezer (until 2020), Siliva Havili (to 2020), Sia Soliola (to 2020), Michael Oldfield (to 2020), Dunamis Lui (until 2021)

Leaving: Shannon Boyd (Titans from 2019 until 2022), Junior Paulo (Eels from 2019 to 2022), Blake Austin (to Warrington from 2019 to 2021), Charlie Gubb (Widnes, immediately), Craig Garvey (released)

Off contract: Cooper Bambling, Sitiveni Moceidreke, Daniel Keir, Paul Roach, Makahesi Makatoa

Coach: Ricky Stuart (until 2020)

BULLDOGS

2019 signings: Jack Cogger (from Knights until 2020), Nick Meaney (from Knights until 2021), Sauaso Sue (from Tigers until 2020), Corey Harawira-Naera (from Panthers until 2022), Christian Crichton (from Panthers until 2021)

New deal: Raymond Faitala-Mariner (until 2020), Brandon Wakeham (until 2020), Jeremy Marshall-King (extension until 2020), Christian Crichton (from 2019), Chris Smith (mid-season until 2020), Lachlan Lewis (until 2020), Rhyse Martin (until 2019), Reimis Smith (until 2020)

Leaving: Moses Mbye (mid-season to Wests Tigers until 2022), Aaron Woods (mid-season to Sharks until 2021), Josh Morris (to Sharks until 2020), Brett Morris (to Roosters until 2020), Greg Eastwood

Off contract: Tom Carr, Josh Cleeland, Greg Eastwood, Asipeli Fine, Matt Frawley, Kayne Kalache, Elie El-Zakhem, Zac Woolford, Mason Cerruto (club option for 2019), Lachlan Burr

Coach: Dean Pay (signed until 2019)

SHARKS

2019 signings: Josh Morris (to 2020)

New deal: Aaron Woods (mid-season from Bulldogs until 2021), Jack Williams (two-year deal to 2020), Jayson Bukuya (two years to 2020), Sione Katoa (to 2020), Paul Gallen (until 2019)

Leaving: Jesse Ramien (Knights from 2019 until 2020), James Roumanos (Bulldogs from 2019 until 2021), Trent Hodkinson (immediate release to Manly until end of 2019), Edrick Lee (from 2019 to Newcastle), Luke Lewis (retiring), Joseph Paulo (to St Helens until 2021), Ricky Leutele (to Toronto until 2021)

Off contract: Blake Manowski, James Segeyaro, Bessie Aufaga-Toomaga, Kurt Dillon, William Kennedy, Clayton Uia

Coach: Shane Flanagan (signed until 2019)

TITANS

2019 signings: Tyrone Peachey (from Panthers until 2021), Shannon Boyd (from Raiders until 2022), Tyrone Roberts (from Warrington until 2020)

New deal: Keegan Hipgrave (2020), Ashley Taylor (until 2021), Phillip Sami (until 2020), Moeaki Fotuaika (until 2021), AJ Brimson (until 2020), Jarrod Wallace (until 2022), Dale Copley (until 2020), Brenko Lee (until 2019), Anthony Don (2020)

Leaving: Karl Lawton (immediate release to Warriors until 2019), Kane Elgey (to Sea Eagles until 2020), Ryan Simpkins (retired)

Off contract: Jai Whitbread, Paterika Vaivai, Brendan Elliot, Kiah Cooper, Mitch Rein (player option for 2019), Will Matthews (player option for 2019)

Coach: Garth Brennan (signed until 2020)

SEA EAGLES

2019 signings: Kane Elgey (from Titans until 2020)

New deal: Curtis Sironen (until 2021), Apisai Koroisau (until 2021), Jack Gosiewski (until 2019)

Leaving: Tom Wright (rugby union until 2020), Darcy Lussick (immediate release to Toronto), Akuila Uate (from 2019 to Huddersfield), Jackson Hastings (released mid-year), Shaun Lane (to Eels), Jonathan Wright (retired), Lewis Brown (released)

Off contract: Cade Cust, Jack Gosiewski, Lachlan Croker, Moses Suli

Coach: Trent Barrett (signed until 2020)

STORM

2019 signings: Nil

New deal: Curtis Scott (until 2021), Felise Kaufusi (until 2020 with two-year option), Craig Bellamy (until 2021), Tom Eisenhuth (mid-season until 2020), Marion Seve (mid-season until 2020), Albert Vete (mid-season until 2020), Sandor Earl (until 2020), Scott Drinkwater (until 2020)

Leaving: Young Tonumaipea (religious mission, effective immediately), Tim Glasby (to Knights from 2019 to 2021), Ryan Hoffman (retiring), Billy Slater (retiring), Louis Geraghty, Lachlan Timm

Off contract: Ryley Jacks, Tui Kamikamica, Justin Olam, Cameron Smith, Sale Finau, Harry Grant, Kayleb Milne, Junior Ratuvu, Billy Walters

Coach: Craig Bellamy (signed until 2021)

WARRIORS

2019 signings: Leeson Ah Mau (from Dragons until 2021)

New deal: Sam Lisone (until 2020), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (until 2022), Hayze Perham (until 2019), Chris Satae (until 2022), David Fusitu’a (until 2023), Ken Maumalo (until 2022), Issac Luke (until 2019), Bunty Afoa until (2021), Jazz Tevaga (until 2020)

Leaving: Ata Hingano (immediate release to Raiders until 2019), Albert Vete (released to Storm until 2020), Anthony Gelling (to Widnes), Simon Mannering (retiring), Zac Santo (released), Mason Lino (to Knights until 2020)

Off contract: Manaia Cherrington, Matiu Love-Henry, Junior Pauga, Patrick Sipley

Coach: Stephen Kearney (until 2019)

KNIGHTS

2019 signings: Tim Glasby (from Storm until 2021), Jesse Ramien (from Sharks until 2020), Edrick Lee (from Sharks until 2021), Mason Lino (from Warriors until 2020)

New deal: Jacob Saifiti (until 2020), Daniel Saifiti (until 2020), Sam Stone (until 2020), Josh King (until 2020), Sione Mata’utia (to 2021)

Leaving: Jack Cogger (Bulldogs from 2019 until 2020), Dylan Phythian (released), Nick Meaney (to Bulldogs from 2019 to 2021), Chris Heighington (retiring), Jacob Lillyman (retiring), Brock Lamb (released), Pat Mata’utia (released)

Off contract: Tyrone Amey, Pat Mata’utia, Matt Cooper, Cory Denniss, Tom Hughes, Junior Roqica, Ken Sio, Tom Starling, Luke Yates, Zac Hosking, Christian Hazard, Jack Johns, Brent Naden, Jamie Buhrer, JJ Felise

Coach: Nathan Brown (signed on performance-based contract)

COWBOYS

2019 signings: Ben Barba (from St Helens until 2020), Tom Opacic (from Broncos until 2020)

New deal: Michael Morgan (until 2023), Jake Clifford (until 2020), Francis Molo (2020), Jake Granville (until 2021), Emre Pere (2020), Shane Wright (2020)

Leaving: Johnathan Thurston (retiring), Antonio Winterstein (retiring), Lachlan Coote (St Helens), Shaun Fensom (released), Sam Hoare (released), Shaun Hudson (released), Kyle Laybutt (released), Kane Linnett (released)

Off contract: Javid Bowen, Josh Chudleigh, Marcus Jensen, Ethan Lowe (player option for 2019), Justin O’Neill (player option for 2019), Kurt Wiltshire

Coach: Paul Green (signed until 2021)

EELS

2019 signings: Junior Paulo (from Raiders to 2022), Blake Ferguson (from Roosters to 2021), Shane Lane (from Sea Eagles to 2019)

New deal: Nathan Brown (until 2021), Will Smith (until 2020), Daniel Alvaro (until 2019)

Leaving: Sean Keppie (Sea Eagles from 2019 until end of 2020), Matthew Doorey (Bulldogs until 2021), Beau Scott (retired), Suaia Matagi (to Huddersfield for 2019), Kirisome Auva’a (retiring), Cameron King (released), Tony Williams (released)

Off contract: Dane Aukafolau, Jarryd Hayne, Nathan Davis, David Gower, George Jennings, Cameron King, Jack Morris, Reed Mahoney, Kaysa Pritchard, Peni Terepo, Siosaia Vave, Greg Leleisiuao, Marata Niukore, Tony Williams, Blaise Barnes

Coach: Brad Arthur (until 2019)

 

[Gronk]

PANTHERS

2019 signings: Tim Grant (until 2019)

New deal: Reagan Campbell-Gillard (until 2024), Dylan Edwards (until 2020), Tyrone May (until 2020), Isaah Yeo (2021), Josh Mansour (to 2021), Nick Lui-Toso (until 2020), Jack Hetherington (until 2019), Kaide Ellis (until 2020), Caleb Aekins (until 2020), Viliame Kikau (to 2022)

Leaving: Leilani Latu (immediate release to Titans until 2020), Stefano Hala (immediate release to Canberra until 2020), Bryce Cartwright (immediate release to Titans until 2021), Tyrone Peachey (Titans from 2019 until 2021), Tim Browne (retired), Christian Crichton (to Bulldogs from 2019), Peter Wallace (retired), Oliver Clark (released to Tigers until 2020), Tom Eisenhuth (released to Storm until 2020), Jayden Walker (released), Chad O’Donnell (released), Samuel Martin-Savage (released to Townsville Blackhawks), Anthony Griffin (coach, released), Corey Harawira-Naera (to Bulldogs from 2019), Soni Luke, Corey Waddell

Off contract: Tyrone Phillips, Mitchell Revell, Joe Peato, Adam Keighran, Allan Fitzgibbon, James Conroy, Joey Peato, Tom Skinner

Coach: Cameron Ciraldo (interim coach until the end of 2018)

RABBITOHS

2019 signings: Corey Allen (from Broncos until 2021), Kurt Dillon (from Sharks until 2020), Bayley Sironen (from Tigers until 2019), Matt McIlwrick (from Tigers until 2019)

New deal: George Burgess (until 2019), Thomas Burgess (until 2019), Sam Burgess (until 2022), Cody Walker (until 2020), Adam Doueihi (until 2021), Matt McIlwrick (mid-season until 2019), Sam Burgess (until 2023), Mark Nicholls (until 2019), Junior Tatola (until 2019), Jacob Gagan (until 2019)

Leaving: Angus Crichton (Roosters from 2019 until 2021), Jason Clark (to Warrington from 2019), Richie Kennar (from 2019 to complete religious mission), Robbie Farah (immediate release to Wests Tigers)

Off contract: Billy Brittain, Tyrell Fuimaono, Hymel Hunt, Robert Jennings, John Sutton, Connor Tracey, Jesse Martin, Vincent Leuluai

Coach: Anthony Seibold (until 2019)

DRAGONS

2019 signings: Korbin Sims (from Broncos until 2021)

New deal: Cameron McInnes (until 2021), Luciano Leilua (until 2020), Matt Dufty (until 2019), Joe Lovodua (until 2019), Josh Kerr (until 2019), Zac Lomax (until 2020), Jeremy Latimore (until 2019), Jordan Pereira (until 2020)


Leaving: Leeson Ah Mau (to Warriors from 2019 to 2021), Jason Nightingale (retiring), Reuben Garrick, Patrick Herbert, Hame Sele

Off contract: Ash Nisbet, Mitchell Allgood

Coach: Paul McGregor (until 2019)

ROOSTERS

2019 signings: Angus Crichton (to 2021), Brett Morris (to 2020), Ryan Hall (to 2020)

New deal: Isaac Liu (until 2021), Luke Keary (until 2021), Jake Friend (until 2020), Zane Tetevano (until 2019), Boyd Cordner (until 2023), Nat Butcher (2020), Latrell Mitchell (2020), Joseph Manu (2020), Egan Butcher (until 2021), Victor Radley (until 2023)

Leaving: Ryan Matterson (Tigers from 2019 to 2021), Jayden Nikorima (released), Grant Garvey (released), Chris Smith (Bulldogs mid-season until 2020), Blake Ferguson (Eels from 2019 to 2021), Frank-Paul Nuuausala (retiring), Paul Momirovski (to Tigers until 2020)

Off contract: Dean Matterson, Eloni Vunakece, Mitch Cornish, Brock Gray, Lachlan Lam, Reece Robinson, Kurt Baptiste

Coach: Trent Robinson (until 2019)

WESTS TIGERS

2019 signings: Paul Momirovski (from Roosters until 2020), Ryan Matterson (from Roosters until 2021)

New deal: Corey Thompson (until 2019), Esan Marsters (until 2020), Moses Mbye (signed mid-season until 2022), Robbie Farah (until 2019), Oliver Clark (mid-season until 2020), Luke Garner (upgraded), Benji Marshall (until 2019)

Leaving: Taane Milne (released — Mounties ISP for 2018), Kevin Naiqama (St Helens from 2019), JJ Felise (released to Knights for 2018), Matt McIlwrick (released to Rabbitohs until 2019), Tim Grant (to Panthers to 2019), Sauaso Sue (to Bulldogs until 2020), Malakai Watene-Zelezniak (Released), Tim Grant (to Panthers until 2019)

Off contract: Pita Godinet

Coach: Ivan Cleary (until 2020)

 

[Gronk]

Shane Lane (from Sea Eagles to 2019)

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Blaise Barnes has already left the club from my understanding. Was playing 4th grade rugby union for a team in Randwick.

 

[T.S Quint]

Looking at that list, does anyone think that there is a team with better external signings than we have?
Most teams only have two or three, and not many have the quality we have gained.
I know we are starting from a lower point than other teams, but I can't fault the recruitment for next year so far.

 

[hindy111]

We offered four and he was off our cap in less than two. And he’s the same age as Smith, Slater, Cronk and Thurston, who all played this year.

But none are battering rams Pou.
In NFL QBs go till 40ylds. A running backs done by early 30s. Sure some forwards play well just like Lewis and Gallen into there mid 30s. But it is rare. Most drop off by late 20s or very early 30s. Some are still decent in their 30s but never at peak.

 

[hindy111]

Our squads fine imo. Quite healthy looking. We get a home stadium again which is a bonus and lets hope a better run with injuries and bounce of the ball.

My question would be who in our squad is on down hill slide for 2019? And did anyone have a career best year this season? Also how many are on the up?
Id say we are in better shape then most squads.

Sharks are established. Few guys getting old. I dont see a squad on the up.
Souths had lot of players who had career years. Also aging squad.
Storm lose slater. Cam gets older.
Roosters? Well great squad.
Panthers - Lose Peachey. Maybe teams on up but 2019 maybe the end of their window.
Saints - Few guys getting old
Brisbane - On up but still no halves
Warriors - Johnson and Luke aging. Unsure if squads stronger

Out of top 8 I see Titans as big improvers.Knights and Cowboys also. The rest seem weaker.

Parra are in one of better positions of the 16 clubs.