Rumours and Stuff

[IFR33K]

No he doesn’t. He is held accountable for his end of the bargain. Just like the players and administrators are.

Surely we can agree on that?

At what point is a line drawn through the sand, and he’s held accountable???

Yes he’s passionate, yes he did well in 2016 during tough times, yes like us he loves the eels.

But F*#k me the negatives are starting to outweigh the positives.

His team selections, his recruitment strategies, his paying of overs and his game plans have just been too much to bear. And don’t get me started on his attempts to move half his team on this season. He’s been here 5 years and we’re just marginally ahead of where he took over all those years ago.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Him being here after winning a spoon with a roster entirely of his creation is as free ride and as Parra as it gets. This is the club that offer 3 year deals for blokes like Mannah and Taka and 2 year deals for park footballers like Will Smith.

‘Roster of his creation’ is a sneaky way that you guys make the players unaccountable.

I assume you are happy to accept that the players have been key contributors to the plop sandwich?

 

[Gary Gutful]

At what point is a line drawn through the sand, and he’s held accountable???

Yes he’s passionate, yes he did well in 2016 during tough times, yes like us he loves the eels.

But F*#k me the negatives are starting to outweigh the positives.

His team selections, his recruitment strategies, his paying of overs and his game plans have just been too much to bare. And don’t get me started on his attempts to move half his team on this season. He’s been here 5 years and we’re just marginally ahead of where he took over all those years ago.

Are you are asking when we should replace him?

When we can land a better option is the obvious answer.

As I have said before though, no shortage of coaches have failed at Parra so at some point it would be nice to stop putting bandaids on and actually address the root cause behind why we are a laughing stock of a club.

 

[TheRam]

‘Roster of his creation’ is a sneaky way that you guys make the players unaccountable.

I assume you are happy to accept that the players have been key contributors to the plop sandwich?

Yes!

And guess what?

He brought them here.

 

[Glenneel]

You got that wrong. What a howler!

FYI https://www.truthorfiction.com/photo-of-a-wolf-pack-explains-wolf-behavior/

 

[Glenneel]

Kandahar Primary School was f**king tough alright.

Think bomb making was one of the subjects. Eventually they had to take the classroom well away into the desert as too many demountables were blown up and body parts scattered everywhere. Never enough kids in detention to clean up the mess.

 

[hineyrulz]

‘Roster of his creation’ is a sneaky way that you guys make the players unaccountable.

I assume you are happy to accept that the players have been key contributors to the plop sandwich?

And where have I said they aren’t partly to blame??? And how many of these underperforming players were dropped??? Poor old Beau Scott and the Clayton dropping of Jennings.

Otherwise the coach stuck but those players, Loyalty can be a good thing but if it’s misguided it can be poison.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I dont think Oates is worth a lot more then 500k. Perhaps a desperate club may pay him 600k. But playing in a top side means he more likely to make origin and pick up 100k there and a better contract the following season.
What would you pay Oates?

He's worth at least $500k. I'm sure he's getting more including TPAs.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yes!

And guess what?

He brought them here.

That's not in dispute and was addressed in my first sentence.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We had more ball than Riley Reid in those games, Huggy111 is posting this morning. Bring Hindy back.

Round 5 vs Penrith we had 52% possession and scored one try apiece. Round 12 vs Brisbane we had 47% and also scored one try.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Foran like many guys may of been good at hiding emotions. BA is not a physoclogist

*pharmacologist

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That’s the thing that’s got me shaking my head! How can he want one, and doesn’t care who? Doesn’t sound very encouraging or promising coming from a head coach if he states he’s not too sure on which half he wants for next year.

They are about as good as each other. He wants to create room for Brown to play first grade and needs some other club to pick up one of our existing halves. It's not about which one he wants, but about which one another club would want the most.

 

[Gary Gutful]

And where have I said they aren’t partly to blame???

When you continue with the "but but but its not the coaches fault'' and focus 90% of your bullshit towards the coach I sometimes forget that you think the players should also share the blame.

And how many of these underperforming players were dropped??? Poor old Beau Scott and the Clayton dropping of Jennings.

Otherwise the coach stuck but those players, Loyalty can be a good thing but if it’s misguided it can be poison.

He definitely f**ked up by not dropping a few people. I guess he felt they would improve and be a better option that the alternatives.

Out of interest who would you have dropped and who would your replacement have been.

I am assuming Jennings, Mannah, Moses, Norman? Who else?

 

[IFR33K]

Are you are asking when we should replace him?

When we can land a better option is the obvious answer.

As I have said before though, no shortage of coaches have failed at Parra so at some point it would be nice to stop putting bandaids on and actually address the root cause behind why we are a laughing stock of a club.

But there’s been better options on the market IMO. If we’re going to remain seated on our hands, then we’ll forever remain a laughing stock.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Do coaches really outwit other teams and coaches with game plans these days? Most games are pretty boring and are largely the same. Its become a very simple game

The team that is better prepared and more committed is the one that usually wins. Not the one with a better game plan. Just my opinion.

Or just the team spending the most on players.

 

[ash411]

I was talking about 3 fullbacks in a game. One game we had Hayne, French and Guth play out of there. Just stupidly, and Will Smith is Aids. So you don’t mind aids.

Otherwise the coach stuck but those players, Loyalty can be a good thing but if it’s misguided it can be poison.

So, which is it? Do you want him to stick with players he picks or switch them up?

You keep moving the goalposts.. If you're going to be critical at least try not to contradict yourself.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Maybe right on the first part due to BA is a little slow on character identification with some of the signings and re-signings over the years. Most other coaches would of worked out after a year of two the character of their players.

The point is we are a club that spends less on players than others, so we need to take risks if we want to finish higher than mid-table. In 2017 the risks paid off and in 2018 they didn't.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He met him and then watched him play

Fittler has also met him and watched him play. Then picked him (again) in the emerging Blues squad.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes!

And guess what?

He brought them here.

So now you're annoyed he wants to get rid of some of them?

 

[Glenneel]

Do coaches really outwit other teams and coaches with game plans these days? Most games are pretty boring and are largely the same. Its become a very simple game

The team that is better prepared and more committed is the one that usually wins. Not the one with a better game plan. Just my opinion.

How do you become more committed? Is it the coach or the players?
I tend to think its the coach. In 2017 we were more committed. Cleary had the Tigers more committed in 2018 so their defence improved.

So what happened to the commitment in 2018? Was it lack of the right preparation that led to the loss of the early games that led to loss of confidence? We won 2 in a row which should of won back the commitment but we fell off again. So what happened in that 3rd game? Was it the constant injuries? That sapped the player's confidence as combinations were not able to be formed and often broken? Was it the coach in constant panic mode unable to get the team up for the game? He certainly looked bereft of ideas at the press conferences, unable to put a finger of what went wrong.

Most importantly, for 2019, our training is now the right fit for the game. Jimenez, the ex Storm trainer, has a good background and the Storm are always fit. Our fitness and defence improved as the season progressed, hopefully this higher level will be our starting base for the new season. We have more assistants than ever so a greater knowledge base that'll translate into better attacking and defensive plans. Our forwards are bigger with better offloaders and passers with no excuses to be dominated by opposing packs anymore. More room created means more room for halves to work.

But the big question here is, will the halves work as they did in 2017? With every passing day I am more confident we'll have a much better year. But will we make the finals? Doubtful unless our spine remains consistent and improves. One thing I'm confident of is that we'll not come last.