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Glenneel

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Thanks mate. It’s interesting that Gennings is not what you’re hearing considering he won Arthur’s personal award this year. I would have thought he’d be ahead of French.

Also, who is Parry? Can you shed light?
Parry is one of our juniors training with the NRL squad.
 

hindy111

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Yeah that's nice and all, but why would we care?

What's happening over at Raiders HQ? Guess what no one cares.

If you want to talk about the Panthers, there's a whole forum dedicated to just that, do it there.

The best way to educate people is with examplea. I've barely mentioned the Duke in the last 4mths ffs.
 

hindy111

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Will BA ever learn? French is not a winger but a fullback. Give Sivo one wing spot and give French 10 games there to prove himself and if he fails send him to reserves. Mennings is past it looking at last years performances for us and Tonga. Make Gutho and Salmon/Parry the centres. If French sacked at fb Gutho can go there with Salmon and Parry the centres.

Our huge problem is 2 of our spots are taken by nuffies, Gower and new recruit Andrew Davey. Another BA master stroke to bring a 27 yo journeyman into our top 30. No wonder we're a basket case. These 2 spots should have been given to our juniors or another recruit. How about Segeyaro, still unemployed, so may accept $250-300k and bring Parry in or promote Stefino into top 30.

I feel like Hoffmans a bigger issuse then Gower and this other guy . We have plenty of guys under age of 22 in our top 30.
 

Glenneel

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We could ask for Dufty or Lomax from Saints. Both good players.
I've already mentioned Lomax earlier. We had the ideal opportunity to get him with the Norman negotiation but as usual probably didn't even think of him such is our club. Potential to be a future super star and a fabulous goal kicker which would fix that problem for us.
 

Glenneel

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F@%k it may be a long season with French on the wing. Has sivo impressed at training?
Believe Sivo has been in rehab. Had shoulder surgery in off season. BA bought him for 2 years so likely to be in side sooner rather than later.
 

Obscene Assassin

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Imo, Gutherson, though he would be on par with Hoffman (but Hoffman isn't likely to play First Grade).

He's all heart, but he's not quick, and has little to no skill.

He's a good defender, and has energy for days - but he's not a fullback, imo.

Not quick? In what terms? He isn't as quick as say French, Addo Carr or Roberts but he's plenty quick enough to play fullback.

I also don't agree with the little to no skill. Again he doesn't have the flashy pass of Bevan but he uses it more effectively.

I don't think either fullback is necessarily better than the other one. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I see French as a fullback you use when your one of your halves is weak in ball-playing ability and he can step-up and be that second "five-eighth". Would be a good fullback if we were to have Salmon or even Gutherson in the halves. I can't see either in the halves when we're at full-strength, I think they'll be moses and Brown and I think Guth will work better with their styles than French would.
 

Joshuatheeel

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I've already mentioned Lomax earlier. We had the ideal opportunity to get him with the Norman negotiation but as usual probably didn't even think of him such is our club. Potential to be a future super star and a fabulous goal kicker which would fix that problem for us.

Why wouId it be an ideal time? Why wouId they even consider releasing Lomax?

Dragons aren’t desperate for Norman for 2019, yes they want him but not that desperate they wouId release their most promising junior. It’s 2020 where they most need him. If we refuse to release Norman they wouId just sign him for 2020.
 

Gronk

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I've already mentioned Lomax earlier. We had the ideal opportunity to get him with the Norman negotiation but as usual probably didn't even think of him such is our club. Potential to be a future super star and a fabulous goal kicker which would fix that problem for us.

What makes you think that the Dragons would release one of the hottest prospects in the NRL to us ?
 

Glenneel

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Why wouId it be an ideal time? Why wouId they even consider releasing Lomax?

Dragons aren’t desperate for Norman for 2019, yes they want him but not that desperate they wouId release their most promising junior. It’s 2020 where they most need him. If we refuse to release Norman they wouId just sign him for 2020.
Lomax is probably their 3rd choice centre atm after Hiku and Aitken so not guaranteed to play there. If Saints were desperate enough to take Norman they'd do a deal but we were the more desperate club, as always.
 

Gronk

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The Saints have a history of releasing/not realising the potential of their juniors, think Jack Bird for instance.
Using that logic we should have released Dylan Brown to the Warriors because of all those players that we let slip in the past. Courtesy Telecrap who print this list once a year.

Nathan Gardner (Sharks)
Daniel Tupou (Roosters)
Krisnan Inu (Bulldogs)
Johnathan Wright (Sharks)
David Williams (Sea Eagles)
James Maloney (Roosters)
Albert Kelly (Titans)
Paul Gallen Sharks)
Daniel Mortimer (Roosters)
David Klemmer (Bulldogs)
Tony Williams (Bulldogs)
Feleti Mateo (Warriors)
Jamie Buhrer (Sea Eagles)
Interchange:
Kris Keating (Bulldogs)
Justin Horo (Sea Eagles)
Trent Hodkinson (Bulldogs)
Luke O'Dwyer (Titans)

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...k=a7c71371cdcd10a34f8f549b1165e0c1-1544659221
 

TheRam

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What does ‘there goes our 2020 season’ even mean?

Were we ever a chance of winning?

No we weren't, but what we were a chance of doing was play consistently well enough to actually win plenty of games even against the better teams and finish somewhere in the semis and actually excite us the fans that support the club.

Especially in a season that we have the privilege of playing at the best new stadium in the country and if we showed some promise could actually consistently draw over 25k crowds for the entire season and regain some lost support and respect before the hype of the new stadium pitters out. Which would make this coming season very memorable for all of us long time suffering Eels supporters, even if we aren't a snow chance in hell of winning it.

We at least had the potential of a good to great halves pairing if they both pulled their fingers out since they were both unsigned for 2020 and needed to impress to maintain their contract value and a much improved forward roster that could actually dominate the play the ball.

All we have now is one petulant whiner that if he doesn't get his way chucks a tizzy fit and loses his whole game. We now have a unsettled fullback, dummy half and half that will be the least experienced and probably the youngest in the NRL to partner the premadonna.

Our performances I believe will be all over the place. The only thing that may prevent the boys from totally chucking in the towel once the season is lost is that many of them are still unsigned. But our season has effectively been hobbled by in my opinion the dumbest coach in the NRL.

Another woeful season coming up. I can't believe that he has crippled this team again. Halves are the life of the team, forwards the power and backs the wings. This guy has taken 5 years to recognize the power part, now he is about to learn the hard way about the life part. His only chance is if pretty boy Moses comes out in full switched on mode and the rookie finds his feet real fast to at least be a foil for pretty boy, otherwise the opposition teams will quickly know shutdown pretty boy is the way you shutdown Parra.

Like I said before, I get that both Moses and Norman were on the nose, but to offload either at this stage without a ready made experienced half replacement would be lunacy. Well the coach has just shown me how out there he is. Look at the Dragons for example at the whiff of losing one of their halves, they immediately seized the moment to nab an experienced half replacement with a brilliant short kicking game.

What have we done to ourselves in return, created the most unsettled spine in the NRL with no certain option in any of the positions and that includes pretty boy Moses who could also be gash he can't get it together.
 

hindy111

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I've already mentioned Lomax earlier. We had the ideal opportunity to get him with the Norman negotiation but as usual probably didn't even think of him such is our club. Potential to be a future super star and a fabulous goal kicker which would fix that problem for us.

Id say Dragon where no chance of letting him go. Aitken or Lafai maybe.
 

ash411

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The best way to educate people is with examplea. I've barely mentioned the Duke in the last 4mths ffs.
And in those 4 months how many people asked you what was happening with the Duke?

None, am I right?

That's my point. Enough already. Your Parra related (non-trolling) content is pretty good, nothing wrong with it, but the Penrith rubbish should be kept to the Penrith forum where it belongs.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Lomax is probably their 3rd choice centre atm after Hiku and Aitken so not guaranteed to play there. If Saints were desperate enough to take Norman they'd do a deal but we were the more desperate club, as always.

You do realise Lomax was picked over Aitken in the finals? You do realise Dragons have lost MacDonald? You do realise Dragons have no real definites for their wing spots? And rumours are Aitken could be moved to the back row ?
 

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