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Glenneel

Bench
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3,783
Gutho’s worth plenty more than the average NRL salary ($300k) but I agree we shouldn’t go crazy. I reckon 550-600k is fair.
The $300k figure was for Mennings but Gutho would be worth no more than $400-500k AS A CENTRE. We need to scour market for a really good fullback as imo Gutho is not a fb but his best fit is centre and captain.
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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6,362
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Eels look to build a dynasty

Where others might see vulnerability, Parramatta head of football Mark O’Neill sees only opportunity.

In concert with coach Brad Arthur, O’Neill is the man charged with piecing together the Eels’ roster for next season, leaving him to wade through a host of players coming off contract.

Among them are some of the most prominent names at the club — the likes of Clint Gutherson and Mitchell Moses. Big names who are likely to attract big offers should they maintain their form and remain on the market.

In Gutherson’s case, his agent suggested last week there were already clubs hovering around and ready to swoop. O’Neill doesn’t appear concerned. He has been in regular contact with Gutherson and remains confident the club captain wants to stay.

“I would respectfully disagree about being in a vulnerable position,” O’Neill said.

“I think we are in a position where we can make decisions based on their objective merits. We are not in a position where we need to be rushed as such.

“We have our 2019 roster locked in. Now we can be strategic. There is a lot happening under the surface. I wouldn’t suggest we are vulnerable at all.

“I would think it is a good opportunity and we have a chance over the coming years to build an exciting roster — one the fans are excited about.”

Gutherson’s agent appeared to put a gun to the club’s head when he suggested the Eels had until the end of this week to make their captain a decent offer.

“Gutho is a fantastic bloke, a fantastic talent, influential. He displays all the behaviour of a professional footballer and what we want at Parramatta,” O’Neill said.

“He is our captain and we believe in him. We see him as the future here — nothing has changed. There are no two ways about it.

“He presents that he is happy and comfortable.

“I talk regularly with Gutho about various things — not always his contract.

“But he is always kept in the loop and I have the utmost respect for him.”

As for Moses, O’Neill has a relationship with the Eels No 7 stretching back to their time together at Wests Tigers. He, like everyone else at the club, has seen a significant change in Moses over the off-season.

“Yeah, I do. I do want him to stay,” O’Neill said.

“I can’t see his best years of football being behind him, same with Gutho. Mitchell is only relatively young — he is 24.

“In terms of the off-season he has had, he has been fantastic in terms of putting his hand up, seeking feedback and asking for more.

“He has shown a level of emotional intelligence and self-awareness that I think is inspiring really.

“Pressure comes with that position to a degree.

“Pressure is part of the game and that’s why they enjoy that — it comes in that position. Mitch has made a lot of personal sacrifice in the off-season.

“It has been a change to him and what he has done previously.

“I have known him since he was a kid.

“This off-season there has been a hell of a lot of positive steps … to concentrate on footy and really apply himself.”

O’Neill has other concerns beyond those two. Aside from Gutherson and Moses, Tim Mannah, Brad Takairangi, Michael Jennings and Tepai Moeroa are off contract while Daniel Alvaro has an option for next season.

The other pressing matter is the future of teenage five-eighth Dylan Brown, who has another year remaining on his contract but will be free to talk to rival clubs from November 1.

The Eels want to upgrade and extend Brown as a matter of urgency. O’Neill has work to do but he insists there is no need to panic.

“The philosophy is sometimes it takes a bit of time to get a plan in place,” O’Neill said,

“We have a lot of local talent as well. We want our kids and our players to aspire to be Eels players. I don’t think there is a sense of immediate urgency.

“I am of the understanding that if any of the players are going to be shopped or taken anywhere they will speak to us.

“I trust the managers on that. I certainly have no reason not to, particularly after my dealings with them over the years.

“We have to make the right decisions based on the right reasons.”

Has he started already?
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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Eels look to build a dynasty

Where others might see vulnerability, Parramatta head of football Mark O’Neill sees only opportunity.

In concert with coach Brad Arthur, O’Neill is the man charged with piecing together the Eels’ roster for next season, leaving him to wade through a host of players coming off contract.

Among them are some of the most prominent names at the club — the likes of Clint Gutherson and Mitchell Moses. Big names who are likely to attract big offers should they maintain their form and remain on the market.

In Gutherson’s case, his agent suggested last week there were already clubs hovering around and ready to swoop. O’Neill doesn’t appear concerned. He has been in regular contact with Gutherson and remains confident the club captain wants to stay.

“I would respectfully disagree about being in a vulnerable position,” O’Neill said.

“I think we are in a position where we can make decisions based on their objective merits. We are not in a position where we need to be rushed as such.

“We have our 2019 roster locked in. Now we can be strategic. There is a lot happening under the surface. I wouldn’t suggest we are vulnerable at all.

“I would think it is a good opportunity and we have a chance over the coming years to build an exciting roster — one the fans are excited about.”

Gutherson’s agent appeared to put a gun to the club’s head when he suggested the Eels had until the end of this week to make their captain a decent offer.

“Gutho is a fantastic bloke, a fantastic talent, influential. He displays all the behaviour of a professional footballer and what we want at Parramatta,” O’Neill said.

“He is our captain and we believe in him. We see him as the future here — nothing has changed. There are no two ways about it.

“He presents that he is happy and comfortable.

“I talk regularly with Gutho about various things — not always his contract.

“But he is always kept in the loop and I have the utmost respect for him.”

As for Moses, O’Neill has a relationship with the Eels No 7 stretching back to their time together at Wests Tigers. He, like everyone else at the club, has seen a significant change in Moses over the off-season.

“Yeah, I do. I do want him to stay,” O’Neill said.

“I can’t see his best years of football being behind him, same with Gutho. Mitchell is only relatively young — he is 24.

“In terms of the off-season he has had, he has been fantastic in terms of putting his hand up, seeking feedback and asking for more.

“He has shown a level of emotional intelligence and self-awareness that I think is inspiring really.

“Pressure comes with that position to a degree.

“Pressure is part of the game and that’s why they enjoy that — it comes in that position. Mitch has made a lot of personal sacrifice in the off-season.

“It has been a change to him and what he has done previously.

“I have known him since he was a kid.

“This off-season there has been a hell of a lot of positive steps … to concentrate on footy and really apply himself.”

O’Neill has other concerns beyond those two. Aside from Gutherson and Moses, Tim Mannah, Brad Takairangi, Michael Jennings and Tepai Moeroa are off contract while Daniel Alvaro has an option for next season.

The other pressing matter is the future of teenage five-eighth Dylan Brown, who has another year remaining on his contract but will be free to talk to rival clubs from November 1.

The Eels want to upgrade and extend Brown as a matter of urgency. O’Neill has work to do but he insists there is no need to panic.

“The philosophy is sometimes it takes a bit of time to get a plan in place,” O’Neill said,

“We have a lot of local talent as well. We want our kids and our players to aspire to be Eels players. I don’t think there is a sense of immediate urgency.

“I am of the understanding that if any of the players are going to be shopped or taken anywhere they will speak to us.

“I trust the managers on that. I certainly have no reason not to, particularly after my dealings with them over the years.

“We have to make the right decisions based on the right reasons.”
Ta Gronky. Sounds professional. Fingers crossed.
 

gaffer

Juniors
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1,057
I watched Wenty today. Parry is ok. But dont expect to much. He has nothing special about him. Better then average in most departments.
Bevan looked class above everyone. Stone looked goood but some dumb shit in his game. No one else worth mentioning.
maybe they should work on French as a half hooker get some versatility in his game and he wont get dragged over the sideline as much if he plays in the middle
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
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6,362
maybe they should work on French as a half hooker get some versatility in his game and he wont get dragged over the sideline as much if he plays in the middle

Not hooker but has potential in the halves. Was good yesterday with the defensive aspect of the halves, if Rhys Davies is out for a few weeks I'd be playing French there with Hoffman at fullback
 

Bazal

Post Whore
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103,242
Not hooker but has potential in the halves. Was good yesterday with the defensive aspect of the halves, if Rhys Davies is out for a few weeks I'd be playing French there with Hoffman at fullback

Yeah can't see him playing hooker.

But as a bench utility, possibly slotting in there for 15 mins? Depends if that's a role that is in any way relevant to the side and the way we're playing right now. I'm not sure it is. He'd be better than Will Smith but.
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
Messages
6,362
Yeah can't see him playing hooker.

But as a bench utility, possibly slotting in there for 15 mins? Depends if that's a role that is in any way relevant to the side and the way we're playing right now. I'm not sure it is. He'd be better than Will Smith but.

Having someone on the bench that can cover fullback, wing, halves and hooker helps. All depends if Salmon cracks the starting 13.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
Messages
62,899
I was gonna say, the bloke was either off his face on turps or spray paint or whatever or he had a falling out with Mick.

He was melting

What happe
Having someone on the bench that can cover fullback, wing, halves and hooker helps. All depends if Salmon cracks the starting 13.


Salmon has a nice step and pace of mark. I reckon he would be harder to defend then Parry.
How old is Parry? He is strong but not Sivo type of power. More Dugan mould.Needs 4 or 5 kgs. He isn't afraid of a big collision.

Bevan was a class above everyone. Some of his kicks where pin point.
 

Gazzamatta

Coach
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15,649
We have precious little back up in the halfs. French could be a masterstroke. Hopefully they persist with this experiment. No doubting his skill.
 

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