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84 Baby

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He wasn't absent; he made 157 matres and broke four tackles. Also missed six
Missed tackles can also be a bit like errors in baseball. It only counts if you lay a hand on the guy carrying the ball, nothing counted if you rush up and leave gaping holes for the opponents to walk through but don’t actually attempt to tackle anyone
 

Bandwagon

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Id give him 4 years if it helped get it over the line ... can retire via injury if his knee goes for good

Maybe at slightly less, say 650k, as the longer the contract the greater the risk. But whatever, I think in four years time at 700k he'd more likely than not be good value.
 

Eelementary

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I'd be giving Gutherson $700K.

May I ask why?

He has a great attitude, he's seemingly a good leader, he is super fit...but that's really it.

His acceleration and speed are average.

His passing game is average.

No real threat with kicks.

He's a solid player, but I don't see the need to throw big bucks at him, tbh.
 

Kornstar

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May I ask why?

He has a great attitude, he's seemingly a good leader, he is super fit...but that's really it.

His acceleration and speed are average.

His passing game is average.

No real threat with kicks.

He's a solid player, but I don't see the need to throw big bucks at him, tbh.

You know i think when you are watching the game live you don't notice him as much but when you watch the replays you forget just how much shit he does and how involved he is and the skill he actually possesses. He is sneaky talented and has vision that you just don't think he has.

I've made it a priority to watch him all game now and realise how much work he is doing on and off the ball and he really is amazing and ridiculously underrated.
 

strider

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Maybe at slightly less, say 650k, as the longer the contract the greater the risk. But whatever, I think in four years time at 700k he'd more likely than not be good value.
True ... i was gonna say if we give him 4 years then make it 680k

He is honestly the type of attitude you want to build a team around .... he does all the right things and can back it up with a fair bit of talent
 

strider

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May I ask why?

He has a great attitude, he's seemingly a good leader, he is super fit...but that's really it.

His acceleration and speed are average.

His passing game is average.

No real threat with kicks.

He's a solid player, but I don't see the need to throw big bucks at him, tbh.
Well if he had all you mention he'd be perfect and worth $1m+
 

Avenger

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May I ask why?

He has a great attitude, he's seemingly a good leader, he is super fit...but that's really it.

His acceleration and speed are average.

His passing game is average.

No real threat with kicks.

He's a solid player, but I don't see the need to throw big bucks at him, tbh.
He reminds me of a modern day Ray Price that never gives up. His leadership qualities is something our club needs. He makes over 150 metres every game, his pace is underrated and his passing game is improving.
 

Gazzamatta

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The Pennys in the news again. Tyrone Phillips DUI. Pennys allowing him to play prior to court case. X2 over the limit. Must like a drink while making movies.
Oh Gus! Had enough yet buddy?
Just popped up on my news feed. Get on it Gronky.
 

Bandwagon

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Gutho's actually pretty quick, he just looks so unco when he runs he seems slower than he is.

2 14 199
5 55 174
3 38 189

Those numbers are D/H runs, D/H run meters, Run meters from the three games this year, slow backs don't make those numbers.

Tedesco's by comparison

3 21 114
2 45 192
2 17 129
 

Poupou Escobar

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Missed tackles can also be a bit like errors in baseball. It only counts if you lay a hand on the guy carrying the ball, nothing counted if you rush up and leave gaping holes for the opponents to walk through but don’t actually attempt to tackle anyone
Yeah so low missed tackles might not mean you've defended well, but high missed tackles definitely mean you fell off a few. Of course, that could also mean a lot of low percentage desperation attempts as you chase merkins hard from the inside.
 

Poupou Escobar

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May I ask why?

He has a great attitude, he's seemingly a good leader, he is super fit...but that's really it.

His acceleration and speed are average.

His passing game is average.

No real threat with kicks.

He's a solid player, but I don't see the need to throw big bucks at him, tbh.
He also has very good football smarts, even though he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
 

Eelementary

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Fair enough, fellas.

I like Gutherson, but I think we can do better at fullback.

He is potentially a great centre, though, imo.

And Guth is certainly not causing us any issues.
 

amitropo

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Rumour going round that Semi has spoken to Brad Arthur and apologised for how he left the club abruptly and returning late from Fiji a few times. The club is seeing what they can do to move him back to us without His French side losing too much money. Can’t see it being true, mostly because I’ve just made it up.
Trying to get in early for tomorrow morning ;)
 

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