Rumours and Stuff

Discussion in 'Parramatta Eels' started by Gronk, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. Bazal

    Bazal Post Whore

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    70,969
    Likes Received:
    16,939
    No fight from me mate.

    I just think that, if you're going to go anyway towards stamping this stuff out as much as is possible, then you need to make it clear as a society that it isn't acceptable. Ultimately, the rest of the world will follow. It might take decades or even longer, but they will.

    I don't believe that this stuff should be a crime or anything like that, but yes, if I had a staff member making homophobic comments (or racist, or whatever you like to substitute) I'd be giving them one first and final warning to pull their head in.

    And I don't mean off colour jokes either. I'll laugh about anything because I'm a misanthropic, depression riddled git and I think humour is just that.

    I normally don't mean to come across as though I want a fight either...
     
  2. hindy111

    hindy111 Referee

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    28,661
    Likes Received:
    5,823
    With Broncocs desperate for a half I would worry about signing Moses back up...
     
    TheRam, Dibs and Matty Bhoy like this.
  3. Matty Bhoy

    Matty Bhoy Juniors

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    652
    Likes Received:
    404
    Agreed Hindy. Nikorima and Milf were absolutely atrocious tonight. Moses would be in their radar for sure.
     
    hindy111 likes this.
  4. Poupou Escobar

    Poupou Escobar Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    56,702
    Likes Received:
    8,025
    Don't be so sure. There are plenty of places in the world that are far less 'American' (because that's what they think liberalism is) than they used to be. China is essentially a fascist state and they have plenty of influence outside the West (not to mention within it).
     
  5. Twizzle

    Twizzle Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Messages:
    135,516
    Likes Received:
    4,333
    hindy111, Gary Gutful, Dibs and 2 others like this.
  6. Gary Gutful

    Gary Gutful Immortal

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Messages:
    30,770
    Likes Received:
    8,689
  7. oldmancraigy

    oldmancraigy Coach

    Joined:
    May 11, 2004
    Messages:
    10,656
    Likes Received:
    443
    Just on the whole Izzy thing, fairly ironic comment from the ARU about it:

    "Rugby is a sport that continuously works to unite people. We want everyone to feel safe and welcome in our game and no vilification based on race, gender, religion or sexuality is acceptable and no language that isolates, divides or insults people based on any of those factors can be tolerated."


    Ok, admitting I haven't followed the whole thing closely, my understanding is that Israel Folau said the following 2 things

    "the devil has blindsided so many people in this world, REPENT and turn away from your evil ways".

    And then two hours later( on a different social media forum) "those that are living in sin will end up in hell unless you repent".


    [everything I know about the whole thing comes from this article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-11/israel-folau-set-to-be-sacked-by-rugby-australia/10993856)

    Those appear (to me) to be fairly 'religious based' comments?



    Certainly not defending the guy (if I were on the ARU board I would voted to axe him!), but to put out the statement that they did... Do they now need to sack anyone who speaks out against Izzy's 'right' to say what he said?
     
  8. Bazal

    Bazal Post Whore

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    70,969
    Likes Received:
    16,939
    But they haven't sacked him for his religion

    They've sacked him because he's breached their code of conduct with homophobic statements. Again. After they gave him a serious warning last time

    So no its not particularly ironic tbh
     
    Gary Gutful and Obscene Assassin like this.
  9. Glenneel

    Glenneel Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2016
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    582
    Certainly affect the others defence, thats for sure.
     
    TheRam likes this.
  10. Glenneel

    Glenneel Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2016
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    582
    The Broncos a few years ago cherry picked a heap of juniors from other clubs and many of those are now playing in their NRL team. It can and does work. Brisbane, unfortunately, will be strong again when they eventually sort out their halves and get a bit more experience.
     
    TheRam likes this.
  11. Glenneel

    Glenneel Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2016
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    582
    I'm confident Gutho will stay as he is the captain, a position he'd unlikely get at Moanly or any other team. Pretty sure Moses will also stay as seems finally settled here. The solution to contented players is pretty simple really. Parra just need to be a successful team, and most will accept slightly unders to stay, rather than going to a weaker team on more.
     
    Eelementary likes this.
  12. Poupou Escobar

    Poupou Escobar Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    56,702
    Likes Received:
    8,025
    When these people talk about religion they mean culture, specifically Islamic culture. They're not referring to personal beliefs.
     
  13. Basil Brush

    Basil Brush Juniors

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    223
    Folau will not be registered with the NRL.

    It will be either France or Japan, if he wants to keep playing.

    Everyone saying Gutho is a priority for us, and that in not necessarily wrong. However I will say our biggest priority, bar none, is Dylan Brown. I have not seen a tougher, more composed junior since Fittler.

    Edit: Apologies as Ponga and Sonny Bill escaped my mind. Best 3 juniors I have seen. Brown looks similar to me.
     
  14. Glenneel

    Glenneel Juniors

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2016
    Messages:
    2,087
    Likes Received:
    582
    There is a whole lot wrong with the USA. They have some of the smartest dumb shits on the planet. Not an oxymoron in that they are smart in their field but absolutely dumb in their views or beliefs. You have American missionaries roaming around Africa agitating, many times successfully, that homosexuality is a crime where you're either jailed or killed because of it.

    In America the wealthy (about 20% of the population there control about 93% of the wealth, and its growing while the top 1% own about 40% of the wealth. Putting it another way 80% of the population own 7% of the wealth, by far the most lopsided in the world) keep the general population dumb and use them as factory fodder or in the military to increase their wealth and to keep them protected. Then the general population are bombarded by statements that they are the best country in the world (far from the truth) and they're dumb enough to believe it. If you're wealthy the statement may be correct (because their tax system is skewed towards the wealthy) but if your lower or middle class it certainly is not.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2019
  15. TheRam

    TheRam First Grade

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,990
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    Fake news.
     
  16. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    49,112
    Likes Received:
    7,387
    It's not fake news just because you really, really hope it's not Ram.

    He has indisputable form as being racist and homophobe. It is not rumour or innuendo. It is fact. The merkin is morally bankrupt. He has proven that in his personal life, professional life in business and now as a politician.

    Some people like that side of him obviously, which is fine. If you like your head of state to be totally ruthless in this manner, cool. However, let's just call a spade a spade.
     
    Gary Gutful likes this.
  17. hindy111

    hindy111 Referee

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    28,661
    Likes Received:
    5,823
    And they will pay big bucks for Fafita AMD Pangai Jnr along with Hass.
     
  18. TheRam

    TheRam First Grade

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,990
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    I could say the very same thing to you. Just because you hate him passionately it doesn't make your statements true either. But what will settle it is if you can site just one, yes just one time that D. Trump has himself, not others, himself come out and made racist or homophobic remarks.

    But here's a clip of the complete opposite being shown to be true.


    and another


    and yet another


    Need I go on? Many factual evidence based examples of a man that shows his actions are the opposite of the crap that ill informed or agenda driven people like you keep pushing. Show me the facts jacks or go be triggered and outraged in you mummies basement and let the adults to get on with it.
     
  19. TheRam

    TheRam First Grade

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,990
    Likes Received:
    1,158
    Oh and here's a perfect example of your tolerant and loving non Trump supporters showing how inclusive they love being.

     
  20. Gronk

    Gronk Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    49,112
    Likes Received:
    7,387
    This is where I hop off. When you are able to have a civil discussion without getting personal, we can go down this path again in the Non-Footy Chat thread.

    In the meantime, have a nice day.
     
    Gary Gutful and Soren Lorenson like this.

Share This Page