Rumours and Stuff

[Bazal]

They have a good coach so the plod players play at a much higher standard and they still win games. Same goes for Bennett and Bellamy. Whereas we............

And they have a good coach because they have decades of management success off the field.

 

[84 Baby]

Where do you live now and what to you do for a job?

Mt Druitt housing complex and unemployed

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Eels outbid ... no one
It seems Parramatta were bidding against themselves for Clint Gutherson. I’ve been told that Manly pulled the pin on their offer for him on Wednesday night. Gutherson signed a three-year deal the following day.

Manly have to prioritise signing Jake and Tom Trbojevic, and that is going to cost them plenty. They still have Daly Cherry-Evans, Marty Taupau and Dylan Walker on great money. The Eagles didn’t want to jeopardise their war chest by spending too much on Gutherson.

https://amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/st...-payout-ra-offered-folau-20190518-p51otg.html

Gutherson himself said there was no formal offer from Manly and in either case we didn't care. We offered the money and duration we decided on and stuck to it. In the end the player had no other choice, as we expected.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Gutherson himself said there was no formal offer from Manly and in either case we didn't care. We offered the money and duration we decided on and stuck to it. In the end the player had no other choice, as we expected.

Yep, that news-story is news to.... no-one.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Gutherson himself said there was no formal offer from Manly and in either case we didn't care. We offered the money and duration we decided on and stuck to it. In the end the player had no other choice, as we expected.

It was like a rollercoaster ride, full of thrilling highs and terrifying lows, and when it was all over we were back where we started.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

It was like a rollercoaster ride, full of thrilling highs and terrifying lows, and when it was all over we were back where we started.

Like that old timber one at wonderland, where you felt like you had been beaten up when you got off.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Bush Pig? Yeah I remember riding it once or twice.

 

[T.S Quint]

Poor poor delusional Pou. Gutho, probably our best player, received how many offers from other clubs? None, repeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!

What are you on about? Pou literally said the same thing you did, that we don't have any stars...highlighted by the fact our big off-contract player wasn't wanted by anyone else, seemingly.

 

[Bazal]

The Bush Pig? Yeah I remember riding it once or twice.

What, Jamie Lyon?

 

[Bazal]

What are you on about? Pou literally said the same thing you did, that we don't have any stars...highlighted by the fact our big off-contract player wasn't wanted by anyone else, seemingly.

I'm not totally convinced Glen can read...

 

[emjaycee]

The reason so called "plodders' do well at clubs like the Storm and the Roosters is because they have 6 or 7 stars, and not 2 or 3 only.
If they lose a star to injury, the plodder that steps in is surrounded by stars who lift to compensate (Mitchell at 6 for the loss of Cronk earlier in the season).

We have 2 or 3 and therefore we simply don't have enough to lift the quality of our plodders.

 

[Happy MEel]

The reason so called "plodders' do well at clubs like the Storm and the Roosters is because they have 6 or 7 stars, and not 2 or 3 only.
If they lose a star to injury, the plodder that steps in is surrounded by stars who lift to compensate (Mitchell at 6 for the loss of Cronk earlier in the season).

We have 2 or 3 and therefore we simply don't have enough to lift the quality of our plodders.

Isnt that by design though? It seems we have gone for more depth in our roster rather than having a top heavy squad.

I’d much prefer a squad with more stars (and more plodders) and hope we get lucky with minimal injuries so we don’t have to call on them.

 

[Bazal]

The reason so called "plodders' do well at clubs like the Storm and the Roosters is because they have 6 or 7 stars, and not 2 or 3 only.
If they lose a star to injury, the plodder that steps in is surrounded by stars who lift to compensate (Mitchell at 6 for the loss of Cronk earlier in the season).

We have 2 or 3 and therefore we simply don't have enough to lift the quality of our plodders.

100%. And one of those players in Nathan Brown is injured again, so we're even less able.

I also think that we have consistently (not just under BA but certainly it's an issue now too) signed the wrong plodders.

It's all well and good to have plodders...but generally the better clubs below Storm/Roosters level success sign safe plodders. We sign guys like Takairangi, Terepo, Smith, and others because they have more skill than say a Mitch Aubusson. But there is a reason they will never be as good a player as him despite being more skilful, and that reason is between their ears and in their attitude.

Every club has plodders. People who criticise us for having plodders need to STFU. The problem is the kind of plodders you choose to put up with and the players you put around them. You can, of course, carry a Taka in the side. But I think we have too many of that kind of average first grader in our squad.

But those are the risks you have to take when your club is still widely regarded as a woeful shambles, too. All these issues come from a similar place IMO.

 

[emjaycee]

Isnt that by design though? It seems we have gone for more depth in our roster rather than having a top heavy squad.

I’d much prefer a squad with more stars (and more plodders) and hope we get lucky with minimal injuries so we don’t have to call on them.

I think we have looked at buying "stars" constantly to be honest (at least since BA got here). It just hasn't always worked out for us with some of the individuals (injury being the main issue) and of course we had the salary cap debacle get in the way.
In 2014 we bought Hopoate, Norman and Peats.
In 2015 Watmough
In 2016 Foran, Jennings and Scott
In 2017 despite the salary cap, we bought Moses
In 2018 we reverted to blooding juniors as we were not allowed TPA's
In 2019 we bought Ferguson (the best winger in the game in 2018) and we bought Paulo back to the club.

 

[hindy111]

Eels outbid ... no one
It seems Parramatta were bidding against themselves for Clint Gutherson. I’ve been told that Manly pulled the pin on their offer for him on Wednesday night. Gutherson signed a three-year deal the following day.

Manly have to prioritise signing Jake and Tom Trbojevic, and that is going to cost them plenty. They still have Daly Cherry-Evans, Marty Taupau and Dylan Walker on great money. The Eagles didn’t want to jeopardise their war chest by spending too much on Gutherson.

https://amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/st...-payout-ra-offered-folau-20190518-p51otg.html

Bullshit news...

Most clubs would find a place for him. His manager would of said Parra are offering 650k so have to beat by atleast 50k before he gets interested.
Id say 5 or 6 clubs would of been prepared to give him 650k as well but very few wanted to offer over 700k. And my guess is 700 wouldn't of taken him away. May of needed 720k to have him leave.

 

[Bazal]

Bullshit news...

Most clubs would find a place for him.

Huh?

Of course they would. But that doesn't mean they had made an offer, which was the point of the article.

 

[hindy111]

100%. And one of those players in Nathan Brown is injured again, so we're even less able.

I also think that we have consistently (not just under BA but certainly it's an issue now too) signed the wrong plodders.

It's all well and good to have plodders...but generally the better clubs below Storm/Roosters level success sign safe plodders. We sign guys like Takairangi, Terepo, Smith, and others because they have more skill than say a Mitch Aubusson. But there is a reason they will never be as good a player as him despite being more skilful, and that reason is between their ears and in their attitude.

Every club has plodders. People who criticise us for having plodders need to STFU. The problem is the kind of plodders you choose to put up with and the players you put around them. You can, of course, carry a Taka in the side. But I think we have too many of that kind of average first grader in our squad.

But those are the risks you have to take when your club is still widely regarded as a woeful shambles, too. All these issues come from a similar place IMO.

So true.
Alvaro being no 1 plodder this season.....

 

[Bazal]

So true.
Alvaro being no 1 plodder this season.....

Yawn.

He's a safe plodder. and we all know he's better than he's been so far. I'll bet he "magically" improves when we get Brown back

 

[hindy111]

Huh?

Of course they would. But that doesn't mean they had made an offer, which was the point of the article.

Why would they make an offer? The manager would of said what was needed. And my guess was about 720k. At 650k plenty would of snapped him up.

 

[hindy111]

Yawn.

He's a safe plodder. and we all know he's better than he's been so far. I'll bet he "magically" improves when we get Brown back

Terepos been shit as well.
Last year these 2 where our best pigs. Unsure whats gone on tbh.