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i have a theory on our ongoing shitness over the last few weeks

maybe a lot of players who are off contract have either been told or just suspect they are not being renewed and there is no interest in them from other clubs so they are hanging in limbo trying to find a gig somewhere

whatever the reason their minds just aren't on the job and it shows
 

Noise

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i have a theory on our ongoing shitness over the last few weeks

maybe a lot of players who are off contract have either been told or just suspect they are not being renewed and there is no interest in them from other clubs so they are hanging in limbo trying to find a gig somewhere

whatever the reason their minds just aren't on the job and it shows

But some of our worst offenders are actually signed for next year: Smith, Terepo, George Jennings and Alvaro (has an option) all signedfor 2020
 

emjaycee

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Well i am a fan and i am the dumbest person on the planet, so it is hard to argue with you on that point.

And i know the NFL is different and somewhat easier to control some of this stuff but the logic of trying to bring in leaders (and smarter footballers) should still be the aim.

We can't even find a balance, which is why we are where we are........
It is still the aim... but what already recognised leader would want to come here? And you cannot develop leaders overnight (or even in one or two seasons) among footballers who are somewhat neanderthal in their thinking.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Coz recent results are more relevant than long-term results. That doesn't mean that that historic results are irrelevant. But if you keep taking a simple average of a coach's record from day zero, a bloke who wins 26 games in year 1, and then adopts an affirmative action policy to defense will keep his job for quite a while. By the way, I lied before, it was marine biology that I failed, I got 200 for 4 unit maths.
So 2019 is more relevant than 2018.
 

Poupou Escobar

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We haven’t competed in 3 weeks.
The past two weeks we've lost by a try each time, and either matched or made more line breaks than the opposition. They've both been very close games.
And the last two weeks, both teams are having a very average season, and played a diabolical game.
It's too early in the year to pay attention to where teams are on the ladder - look at Manly tonight. And our past two games were 'diabolical' because both teams were working very hard in defence. Our scramble was excellent in both games. Unfortunately our ball control has been very poor. We need to be more patient and grind.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I know it has been said on here many times over the last few years and despite peoples thoughts on the individuals recruited at various times to close this issue, the one constant we have been lacking and continue to lack is LEADERSHIP, especially in the forwards.
I would've thought it was obvious but clearly not. You try to point it out and f**kwits take the piss.

SACK THE f**kEN COACH !!
 

Glenneel

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The past two weeks we've lost by a try each time, and either matched or made more line breaks than the opposition. They've both been very close games.

It's too early in the year to pay attention to where teams are on the ladder - look at Manly tonight. And our past two games were 'diabolical' because both teams were working very hard in defence. Our scramble was excellent in both games. Unfortunately our ball control has been very poor. We need to be more patient and grind.
Can't do much grinding if you continually lose the ball. What most disappoints is the lack of effort and our style of play. Our tackling is poor, often grabbing in tackles and not locking the ball up. Teams make easy metres as there is no speed in our D line and players are left on the ground. Because of that we always lose in the ruck. And what has happened to our attack? Our handling has been diabolical and our passing/offloading is almost non-existent. One out running will not win matches. But currently that is our state of affairs and all that falls onto the coaches.
 
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hindy111

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I would've thought it was obvious but clearly not. You try to point it out and f**kwits take the piss.

SACK THE f**kEN COACH !!

I am behind BA. But if he fails this year I'd prefer he left.
I reckon our squads as good as Newcastle. I like how Brown turned their season around. That impressed me.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I am behind BA. But if he fails this year I'd prefer he left.
I reckon our squads as good as Newcastle. I like how Brown turned their season around. That impressed me.
And yet merkins wigged out because we lost to them. They are currently in the top four.

Speaking of which, there are five teams with a better differential than +7 and we have played four of them, three of those we played away.
 

emjaycee

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Can't do much grinding if you continually lose the ball. What most disappoints is the lack of effort and our style of play. Our tackling is poor, often grabbing in tackles and not locking the ball up. Teams make easy metres as there is no speed in our D line and players are left on the ground. Because of that we always lose in the ruck. And what has happened to our attack? Our handling has been diabolical and our passing/offloading is almost non-existent. One out running will not win matches. But currently that is our state of affairs and all that falls onto the coaches.
How exactly do these things you mention fall onto the coaches?
There have been games this year where we have held the ball, tackled like demons (including locking the ball up), had great line speed in D, not been left on the ground, not lost the ruck, and have passed/offloaded like the Harlem Globetrotters and we have won those games (or even lost games like v Roosters), so the players have the ability to do all of these things.

Are you insinuating that maybe the coaching staff coach them to not do these things for certain games?
Wow!!
 

TheRam

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We are competing. How many wins should this roster be racking up? How many rosters would you say are worse than ours?

If we lost to all the better rosters and beat all the worse ones, and won half of our games against all the rosters on our level, how many wins would we have? And would that number of wins be acceptable?


Manly's roster is crap next to ours the last few weeks, especially since they lost their best two players and other then last night against a heavily criticised Titans, while they were being highly praised, they have been playing like champions.

We have been playing like we hate the coach, the fans and the jersey.

Disgraceful and if they are going to turn up for only half the games, then they should only receive half their pay. the next time they play like that(next game) I hope every body just boos the crap out of them from the fifth minute to the end. In the new stadium it will deafen them. Arse wipes. Ruining my weekends. Dickh**ds!!!

If you don't have pride in the jumper and yourselves get the f**k out!!!

No excuses!!!
 
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