Rumours and Stuff

[TheRam]

The same Koroibete that the Scum also let walk?

Yes and replaced with Ado-Carr. Yes. The point is it seems that it doesn't matter who they let go because they end up with quality replacements.

Time will tell what happens once Smith retires though.

 

[84 Baby]

Yes and replaced with Ado-Carr. Yes. The point is it seems that it doesn't matter who they let go because they end up with quality replacements.

Time will tell what happens once Smith retires though.

Yeah but you can’t really criticise Tigers in isolation over letting Koroibete go when comparing to Scum, who also let him go. If Addo-Carr stays there for years and years, yes criticism may be warranted but it’s not like Scum tried hard to keep Koroibete either

And really is Addo Carr that high a quality replacement? He’s fast but how much of the rest of his “talent” is down to relative easiness Scum wingers have in that team?

 

[TheRam]

The point isn't that they will (which largely depends on which team they end up playing for), it is that they all could.

Look at Addo-Carr. A skinny speed merchant. He goes to Melbourne where all his kick return opportunities come against teams forced to kick from inside their own half. Imagine how good he would look if he was receiving bombs near his own tryline five or six times every week. He would be nowhere near Origin. Instead he is in a team where he can take advantage of his strengths and hide his weaknesses. This is true of nearly every player who appears in Origin.

It's not that I don't agree with this statement Pou, it's just that some players you can tell are quality in a bad to average team or if juniors have much potential and should be fought for and kept through their teething years to see if that natural potential comes to fruition.

We have one player in our squad right now that I thought could go either way, that I feel could be a star in a powerful team but is ordinary in our Jekyll and Hyde team.

Bevan French. But the problem with him is he can be very skittish and dog the collision. So when he is bad, he can be very bad. Ado-Carr so far hasn't shown fear, but is that due to the team he is in and their very dominant and winning record? Maybe. It is a pity we the Eels will never know from our own perspective. When he leaves he needs to pick a very strong and successful team for his own sake even if it means less money for now. To go to another yo yo team would only make for similar results.

But players like Matterson don't have size issues, so when they show great promise, we need to be better at keeping them. If we don't have the people currently in our club that have the persuasive gift, then I would make that a priority in recruitment. We need people that know their job and know how to keep our best players here. I know we won't keep them all, but we need to keep most of the good ones.

 

[TheRam]

Yeah but you can’t really criticise Tigers in isolation over letting Koroibete go when comparing to Scum, who also let him go. If Addo-Carr stays there for years and years, yes criticism may be warranted but it’s not like Scum tried hard to keep Koroibete either

And really is Addo Carr that high a quality replacement? He’s fast but how much of the rest of his “talent” is down to relative easiness Scum wingers have in that team?

Mate he is the polish at the end of a very good team. He is lightning and when the Storm were at their best a couple of years ago, he was also very strong in hitups from his own end. He was on fire. How much of that is due to confidence playing in the premier team? Probably has a lot to do with it. Psychologically for him and even other players, when you are playing in a great team, you put in extra just from enthusiasm and exuberance and knowing that your effort will be capitalised on and pain or injury are not in your mindset.

It is a different mindset from ours, knowing that at any moment your team mates can and do mentally collapse or come out of the blocks like they are wearing 10 lbs boots and can't even make a decent hitup.

 

[hineyrulz]

If he was good enough to be in the squad for one year why wouldn't he be good enough to still be in the squad three years later?

Sigh!!

 

[84 Baby]

Mate he is the polish at the end of a very good team. He is lightning and when the Storm were at their best a couple of years ago, he was also very strong in hitups from his own end. He was on fire. How much of that is due to confidence playing in the premier team? Probably has a lot to do with it. Psychologically for him and even other players, when you are playing in a great team, you put in extra just from enthusiasm and exuberance and knowing that your effort will be capitalised on and pain or injury are not in your mindset.

It is a different mindset from ours, knowing that at any moment your team mates can and do mentally collapse or come out of the blocks like they are wearing 10 lbs boots and can't even make a decent hitup.

Exactly. It’s not entirely fair to criticise Tigers for letting him go given he wasn’t the answer to their problems, and quite possibly having a player like him exacerbated their problems. They’re probably coming up to a roster that could utilise him, but the past few years he’d have been a passenger and unlikely to have played Origin

 

[Snoochies]

That Penrith bloke off to the Tigers

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...l/news-story/694fc85a2d8bfe9fa19e131970b05f6f

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes and replaced with Ado-Carr. Yes. The point is it seems that it doesn't matter who they let go because they end up with quality replacements.

Time will tell what happens once Smith retires though.

The point is that the replacements aren't as high quality as you think or they wouldn't come back to the field when they join a team less full of stars to carry them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That Penrith bloke off to the Tigers

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...l/news-story/694fc85a2d8bfe9fa19e131970b05f6f

His younger brother Allan has more potential.

 

[TheRam]

The point is that the replacements aren't as high quality as you think or they wouldn't come back to the field when they join a team less full of stars to carry them.

Blanket statement that makes no sense and is patently wrong when you look at their long history of replacements.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Blanket statement that makes no sense and is patently wrong when you look at their long history of replacements.

The point is they don't get better when they go to Melbourne and worse when they leave (to anywhere other than the Roosters anyway). They just look better at stronger clubs with stronger team mates around them and worse at weaker clubs where they are under more pressure.

 

[Gronk]

That Penrith bloke off to the Tigers

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...l/news-story/694fc85a2d8bfe9fa19e131970b05f6f

Subject to swap deal. They probably said the same to us and we told them to nick off.

 

[Gronk]

If DWZ is contemplating a switch to Tigers then he has obviously given up on playing fullback. Mbye wont be shifting for him.

I reckon we are still a chance if the Panthers give up on the swap thing.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Maguire is the Kiwi Coach who made him Captain of his country and selected him at Fullback. I therefore dont share your opinion Gronky. If Tigpies have the money its gunna happen mate.

 

[84 Baby]

Maguire is the Kiwi Coach who made him Captain of his country and selected him at Fullback. I therefore dont share your opinion Gronky. If Tigpies have the money its gunna happen mate.

How many spine players do they need?

 

[Gazzamatta]

How many spine players do they need?

BA would have played him center, or wing and moved Fergo to center for sure. No way he'd move his bestie from fullback. If reports are correct hes way overpriced for what he offers. Stick with youthful enthusiasm BA. (Development Club).

 

[84 Baby]

BA would have played him center, or wing and moved Fergo to center for sure. No way he'd move his bestie from fullback. If reports are correct hes way overpriced for what he offers. Stick with youthful enthusiasm BA. (Development Club).

Huh? You were the one suggesting Maguire sees him as fullback. Why would BAs preference matter? In fact in terms of position changes, it’s easier for us to interchange him and Gutho. Tigers move for Mbye would likely be to replace Farah.
Anyway, what’s his asking price?

 

[Chipmunk]

The signing of DWZ would just puts us back to 2018 and a squad balance that was all wrong.

Wing and Fullback, the positions DWZ has played at NRL level, are pretty covered.

 

[Chipmunk]

So DWZ Tigers deal will allegedly involve a player swap for a different position. If they can pick up one of Ivan's old favourites in Packer or Matulino, then they probably won't be looking for JWH.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Huh? You were the one suggesting Maguire sees him as fullback. Why would BAs preference matter? In fact in terms of position changes, it’s easier for us to interchange him and Gutho. Tigers move for Mbye would likely be to replace Farah.
Anyway, what’s his asking price?

Yep. Just reckon if he came to Parra he wouldnt be fb where he wants to play. Someone said he was on 800k next year at The Pennys. Outrageous! What do you think hes worth.