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Glenneel

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Well then you're even more clueless then I thought. A player as gifted and talented as Kenny was, you couldn't help but notice everything he did, even the little boring effort stuff because he was so damn brilliant and whenever was involved your eyes instantly watched and followed him.

He was and out and out genius and way more impressive then Wally Freakin Lewis who had a saloon passage advantage in nearly half his SOO games, due to the way our NSW selectors didn't take Origin seriously for the first few years and then would pick the wrong types of players due to favouritism and not understanding the difference between Club and SOO types of players at the time.

But remember Kenny kept Lewis out of the Australian team often until they decided to play him at Lock finally when Price retired and they moved Junior to second row, because of Kenny. Sure you could say that that was because of the combo of Kenny and Sterlo, but they could of opted for Langer and Lewis or Mortimer at the time but they didn't because Frank Staton knew that the better more rounded players were Kenny/Sterlo if he wanted not just the spectacular stuff, but those little things that you love so much that coaches cream their pants over which we call effort on effort and working off the ball stuff.

Lewis, Langer and Mortimer until later on in their careers were nowhere near as good as the Parra duo in ALL facets of the game. Sure they would and could get themselves up for the big SOO, Semis, Tests and a major club game here and there, but Kenny and Sterlo were brilliant and tireless virtually for every club game, SOO, Semi and Test throughout their whole careers. You can't say that for Lewis in particular.

People just have a very short and selective memory. Because he was so great in SOO in particularly, and all of QLD love him for it, and had a very good International career too, he was always going to be considered an Immortal, which I agree with, but that doesn't mean that Kenny should not be too. Kenny's career is equally as impressive if not more so and what he did and could do on the biggest stages of RL time and time again are right up there with the best ever. So why the hell isn't he already?

We tend to forget and dismiss due to the passage of time, but not all of us mate. You stick to your plod loving and let the rest of us honour and rejoice in the deeds of the truly great.
The Immortals selection was poor from the beginning. They should have started with the early players first, this has been partly fixed, and worked forward probably looking at each decade and selecting players from each. Atm they're all over the place and it needs to be fixed.
 

Gazzamatta

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Poppa Clay was just a slightly over sized version of Jim Dymock, hard merkin to tackle if he ran at the other 5/8
As a kid I remember him looking 100 years old. Great memories at Cumberland circa 1965, Eels V St George. Dragons ran out and I was in awe. So many superstars and they looked huge by comparison. Autographs after the game. Still have them. I remember being excited that Chang had withdrawn and Billy Smith was moved from half to fullback. Smith f'n smashed us. My memories are, on that day, he was the best player I'd ever seen.
 

hybrideel

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I'd say styles are worked out also. Players form dips. Great coaches can changes styles and no when it's time to cull.payers and inject new guys into the team
In 2001 I noticed towards end of season sides had slowly worked us out and had become better at stopping us
And players are the same. Why people go on about on about year wonders. Or rookies who flop after a great debut season. A lot of times the players has just had tape on him for everyone to study and shit him down.
Same goes for coaches. No doubt Green was a great coach. But perhaps couldn't change his game plan enough and he let players get stale. Didn't plan for future and signed to many older guys. The whole thing exploded.

I am a believer that you always need youth in your side and juniors mixed with experience. And always need 2 or 3 new additions to top 17 to keep things fresh.

In the last 13 games of the 2001 season up to the GF, we won 12 of them with an average score of 34-13
We reached 40 points in 5 of those games, 50 3 times and 60 once and only failed to get past 20 in 2 of those games which we scored 18 in both.
Even the finals series including the loss we averaged 34 points and scored at least 24 in each of them.

No-one worked us out, we just shat the bed in the big game against a red hot knights team
 

Gazzamatta

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In the last 13 games of the 2001 season up to the GF, we won 12 of them with an average score of 34-13
We reached 40 points in 5 of those games, 50 3 times and 60 once and only failed to get past 20 in 2 of those games which we scored 18 in both.
Even the finals series including the loss we averaged 34 points and scored at least 24 in each of them.

No-one worked us out, we just shat the bed in the big game against a red hot knights team
Directed everything at Jason Taylor. Kennedy was unbelievable. Nearly topped myself at halftime.
 

hineyrulz

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Directed everything at Jason Taylor. Kennedy was unbelievable. Nearly topped myself at halftime.
I had a BBQ at my place and invited everyone, by halftime everyone had left even my house mates. Funny thing is I never did my nut or cracked it I just sat there speechless and almost numb. They must of known what was to come because by full time rolled around I had an epic tantrum and I don’t think I have really recovered to this day.

Fkn Parra!!
 

Incorrect

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I had a BBQ at my place and invited everyone, by halftime everyone had left even my house mates. Funny thing is I never did my nut or cracked it I just sat there speechless and almost numb. They must of known what was to come because by full time rolled around I had an epic tantrum and I don’t think I have really recovered to this day.

Fkn Parra!!
I feel you brother...
 

Twizzle

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As a kid I remember him looking 100 years old. Great memories at Cumberland circa 1965, Eels V St George. Dragons ran out and I was in awe. So many superstars and they looked huge by comparison. Autographs after the game. Still have them. I remember being excited that Chang had withdrawn and Billy Smith was moved from half to fullback. Smith f'n smashed us. My memories are, on that day, he was the best player I'd ever seen.

Smith was a pretty good half but Chang was an amazing fullback/centre, like you say, a team full of superstars.
 

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