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IFR33K

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Why not? The non player salary cap is non the same for every club $5m. So money should have nothing to do with it. We need strong and good leadership to make it happen. Parramatta a a destination club is right up there with the top 3 in the game. Our management just need to know how to make it happen.

I’m not sure why not. I’m just repeating what our resident genius has been saying. Ask him.
 

Glenneel

Bench
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That would fit the narrative, but doesn't make sense. The game plan has been working for them. When they went away from it against the Roosters they got flogged. They tried to score on every set instead of building pressure, which is how they beat them the first time.
What does 'front load your effort and chase the collision' actually mean? The team looks exhausted to me, as it did last year about this time, so I think BAs plan to use our forwards to smash the opposition early in the year has resulted in their current situation. Maybe select the gap rather than the collision might have been a better option.

Next year there needs to be a complete change. Change in the coaching ranks is a must along with speed in the backs is imperative. I don't think we need to spend big on new personnel as we already have most of the players we need.

Gutho to 5/8, Dyl Brown and Peninisi to centre, Blake and another to wing and a new fb, either Perham, Russell or another. Speed will help attack and defence. We don't chase the collision, we adopt a mobile attack like Panthers and Storm, have players in motion, support on both sides of the ball carrier and move the ball about. During the off season practice quick ptb's and laying longer on the tackled player and quick shifts to the edges in attack and defence mode.
 

Glenneel

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Mark Levy tonight discussed the eels with Gal.
Levy said its a perfect job for flanno.
Gal said flanno knows how to rebuild a side and win a premiership.
Levy wants Arthur gone.
Gal said its not a premiership roster.
Listen in around 14mins.

I disagree that we can't win a premiership with this roster, its our woeful attack and defence thats holding us back. Just a rejig of our backs, maybe 1 new player, as shown in my earlier blog, will give us speed we now currently lack and with a decent coach he could turn this team around.
 

TheRam

Coach
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I’m not sure why not. I’m just repeating what our resident genius has been saying. Ask him.

No not again, I already have and he will just tell me we aren't worthy and we are paupers and we aren't sexy enough and so on and so forth with his ridiculous nonsense apologist excuses.

Fact is we are the number 1 most watched on television team of any code in the country, have one of the best club stadiums, have a massive supporter base(the largest in the State) have a thriving leagues club and have a dynamic city(second largest in the State and growing). We also have the largest club membership of any RL club in the country right now. So to even suggest that we can't attract the very best personnel in any position that we want to fill is a load of crock. If our management are struggling to get the highest calibre applicants for any roll, then they need to resign and be replaced by people who can.

Parra sells itself now. We are not and really never have been the ugly step sister. But as of the last few years(since we had the Government step in and with all the new developments around us and for us, we have gone to another level and are the number 1 club or at least neck and neck with the Roosters in this State.

We actually are better then the Roosters on all but the Politis factor and his mates, but by no means a distant second or behind anyone else. We just need the best people to be appointed in the football department which seems to have second level nobodies everywhere at the moment. But like I said, money should not be a factor, the cap is $5m for the football department, so what others can spend, we can too. So it just leave our management as the reason for it happening or not. We tick the boxes as number 1 contender for everything else.
 

Poupou Escobar

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What does 'front load your effort and chase the collision' actually mean?
It means don't try to conserve energy at the start, referring specifically to players who can be interchanged (meaning forwards). If you don't support the ball carrier in attack and get numbers into the tackle in defence (chasing the collision) you'll end up on the back foot and buggered anyway.
 

Poupou Escobar

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There is more energy exerted in being a prick and a micro manager. Giving people autonomy and ownership is the key to overall success.
It's obvious there is a failure of leadership in recent weeks. I'd say 2018 was another case of leadership failure. We solved that without sacking the coach or the captain, but some very influential players were moved on. How will this current problem be solved? I'm excited to find out.
 

Avenger

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It's obvious there is a failure of leadership in recent weeks. I'd say 2018 was another case of leadership failure. We solved that without sacking the coach or the captain, but some very influential players were moved on. How will this current problem be solved? I'm excited to find out.
I am too and I’m happy for big names to be shown the door if they are not on the same path no matter who the coach is. I however suspect that it won’t be Arthur. He’s done and sadly I think our captain is too.

Hope I’m wrong about Gutherson though.
 

emjaycee

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Why not? The non player salary cap is now the same for every club, $5m. So money should have nothing to do with it. We need strong and good leadership to make it happen. Parramatta as a destination club is right up there with the top 3 in the game. Our management just need to know how to make it happen.
Although the non-player cap is the same for each club, AFAIK it isn't reimbursed by the NRL, unlike the player salary cap. Therefore each club needs to have the money to spend, whether that is from other football related income such as gate receipts and memberships, or from contributions from the owner. Not saying that Parra Leagues hasn't got the money (and doesn't already contribute sufficiently), just making an observation on possibly how the "richer" clubs can do better or more with their non-player football costs. If a "poorer" club can only spend $4m despite the cap being $5m then of course they will have less to pay coaches, etc.
 

TheRam

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Although the non-player cap is the same for each club, AFAIK it isn't reimbursed by the NRL, unlike the player salary cap. Therefore each club needs to have the money to spend, whether that is from other football related income such as gate receipts and memberships, or from contributions from the owner. Not saying that Parra Leagues hasn't got the money (and doesn't already contribute sufficiently), just making an observation on possibly how the "richer" clubs can do better or more with their non-player football costs. If a "poorer" club can only spend $4m despite the cap being $5m then of course they will have less to pay coaches, etc.

Yeah sure, but $5m isn't such an outlandish amount for a club like Parra and besides, getting say the best coach, will pay for itself, won't it?

Otherwise why the hell are we even in the NRL? I mean who the hell cares about the leagues club other then a few addicted punters? Everything the leagues club does should ultimately be for the benefit of the football side of things. If we can't compete monetarily then I would like to know and why? Is it until we get all our developments Hotel...etc up and running or is it something else and how do we fix it and by when?

But like I said before, we have so many positives going for us, we should be the easiest of sells for the best applicants in any roll in the league we wish to fill.

Pou's negativity is just that of a losers mentality that loves a plodder and fears to reach for greatness. They think only others have the ability, attributes or resources to achieve it. I suspect something in his background and or upbringing has influenced him this way. I have seen this in others over my lifetime and at times even tried to help them break this outlook of defeatism, but it is way to hard to change. It's like trying to change a tight arse. Impossible. They are always in the pou loo when the next shout is on. 😄
 
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Poupou Escobar

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Yeah sure, but $5m isn't such an outlandish amount for a club like Parra and besides, getting say the best coach, will pay for itself, won't it?
It's not just the coach, it's all the support staff he will expect. It goes from spending $500k on the coach and $1.5M on another ten merkins to help run all of the football operations, to spending $1M+ on the coach and $4M on another twenty merkins for footy ops.

Look at the Storm. They have Bellamy, Ponissi and Bunn all in management roles, with their own staff. At Parra we have two dudes handling the same amount of responsibility, both surely earning less than Melbourne's three, and no doubt with fewer/cheaper staff to help get it all done.

Why would a head coach used to operating with all these resources want to leave a club like Melbourne or Souths to go somewhere to work with his hands tied?

$5M mightn't be much compared to the player salary cap, but that is all funded by the NRL. Non-player expenses need to be funded by PLC grant and club revenue; sponsorships, ticket sales and merch. You think we're rich because we have a lot of fans but then ignore that we trained at Ritchie f**ken Benaud Oval for twenty years, and then moved to demountables at a council dog park. We are only getting a dedicated facility because the government decided to pay for it. We aren't a rich club. It's a myth. We don't have as much to spend on stuff that isn't funded by the NRL's grant which includes hiring staff.

Why do you think the NRL introduced a cap on non-player spending if it doesn't provide a significant benefit?
 
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Parra Cheeses

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https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/b...t/news-story/ea1336cc2bd4811508ae64ded0d750fb

Conner Watson going to the Roosters for less.
Is James Hooper kidding? Playing group/coaching staff rift!
Get a grip media and acknowledge the elephant in the room. All the roosters have going for themselves is Uncle Nick.

Hey scoop! How about a story on how even the comp is taking the salary cap PLUS third parties into account. Let’s see who finishes top of the table.
Also Hoops, is this your joke and we are the fools who have to swallow?
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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Although the non-player cap is the same for each club, AFAIK it isn't reimbursed by the NRL, unlike the player salary cap. Therefore each club needs to have the money to spend, whether that is from other football related income such as gate receipts and memberships, or from contributions from the owner. Not saying that Parra Leagues hasn't got the money (and doesn't already contribute sufficiently), just making an observation on possibly how the "richer" clubs can do better or more with their non-player football costs. If a "poorer" club can only spend $4m despite the cap being $5m then of course they will have less to pay coaches, etc.
Do all the clubs not still get $13 million per year?

Last time I looked the salary cap was only around $9 million.
 

Soren Lorenson

First Grade
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/b...t/news-story/ea1336cc2bd4811508ae64ded0d750fb

Conner Watson going to the Roosters for less.
Is James Hooper kidding? Playing group/coaching staff rift!
Get a grip media and acknowledge the elephant in the room. All the roosters have going for themselves is Uncle Nick.

Hey scoop! How about a story on how even the comp is taking the salary cap PLUS third parties into account. Let’s see who finishes top of the table.
Also Hoops, is this your joke and we are the fools who have to swallow?
That's just Hooper getting bored of kicking Parra and having a crack at Newcastle. The bloke is a germ.
 

hindy111

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What does 'front load your effort and chase the collision' actually mean? The team looks exhausted to me, as it did last year about this time, so I think BAs plan to use our forwards to smash the opposition early in the year has resulted in their current situation. Maybe select the gap rather than the collision might have been a better option.

Next year there needs to be a complete change. Change in the coaching ranks is a must along with speed in the backs is imperative. I don't think we need to spend big on new personnel as we already have most of the players we need.

Gutho to 5/8, Dyl Brown and Peninisi to centre, Blake and another to wing and a new fb, either Perham, Russell or another. Speed will help attack and defence. We don't chase the collision, we adopt a mobile attack like Panthers and Storm, have players in motion, support on both sides of the ball carrier and move the ball about. During the off season practice quick ptb's and laying longer on the tackled player and quick shifts to the edges in attack and defence mode.

Front-load is defined as to focus efforts, costs or expenses at the beginning of a project. An example of front-load is someone opening a new restaurant and spending most of their business loan money on start up costs, not saving any money for expenses to come later.
 

hineyrulz

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This could be just the losing streak we had to have. Imagine rocking up to the finals having lost six of our last seven and all the stories are about how all our players hate each other's guts and we're no chance... zero expectations!!
Maybe we have been front loading our Looses and we are going to back load our wins come finals time???? Bea you genius!!!!
 

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