Rumours and Stuff

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Not sure why we are chasing Rochow when are back row stocks are fine, I'd rather we chase a prop and dummy half.

We'll need cover for Scott more frequently next year, I'd think.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Unless the prior rumour about Manu leaving is correct or maybe Moeroa could be moving up front

Scott played entirely in the middle vs Souths. I reckon that's his future.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Scott played entirely in the middle vs Souths. I reckon that's his future.

Isn't he a bit small for that? I don't think he will provide much go forward.

 

[Gronk]

The Sydney Roosters have today announced the signing of Michael Gordon to a one-year deal commencing in 2017.

32 year-old Gordon will join the Roosters from the Parramatta Eels where he has played 14 games to date since joining them this season.

“With almost 200 NRL matches under his belt, Michael will add experience and depth to our squad,” said Roosters CEO, John Lee.

“Michael will also be a terrific mentor as we continue to develop our younger backs, and we’re pleased to have secured his services,” he added.

Gordon made his NRL debut in 2006 with the Penrith Panthers where he played 108 first grade games over seven seasons. He played 71 NRL matches with the Cronulla Sharks (2013-2015), before joining the Parramatta Eels in 2016. He has also represented NSW (one game in 2010) and NSW Country (2011, 2013).

Read more at http://www.roosters.com.au/news/2016/06/22/michael_gordon_signs.html#mjKLM0G1smMBzl07.99

 

[parra-matters]

That was expected, only told when he came it was for 1 year only.
His form has got him a contract elsewhere, good for him.

 

[ash411]

That was expected, only told when he came it was for 1 year only.
His form has got him a contract elsewhere, good for him.

Happy to see he has another year to go around.

Would have been happier if it wasn't the roosters, but what can you do.

I don't think anyone was under illusions that he'd be around next year.. Especially with French and Gutho doing so well..

On Edit: I'll predict the media firestorm right now: "Parra salary cap scandal claims another victim" guaranteed that'll be the headline somewhere..

 

[Avenger]

Looks like the Roosters have finally given up on signing Hayne. I wonder if Rothfield and the other lazy journalists will realise this.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isn't he a bit small for that? I don't think he will provide much go forward.

It's not all about go-forward. Most of the players in the middle are there for their defence. Even hookers need to offer workrate and line speed, on top of low mistakes at dummy half. If you have an attacking specialist in the middle you'll obviously use him, with him taking more carries than the others. But otherwise you can generate quick play-the-balls through your edge forwards, or even in the middle by using the ball and getting your middle forwards running against only two defenders (or even one).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That was expected, only told when he came it was for 1 year only.
His form has got him a contract elsewhere, good for him.

f**k HIM HES A f**kEN DOG! He should play the rest of the year in reserve grade. WHY THE f**k should we develop 32 year olds for other clubs and have to keep signing new ones from elsewhere?!?!?

 

[forward pass]

I noticed on the weekend that Gordon was feeding the ball to Semi a lot more than he normally does - he has tended to go himself but he really gave some good ball out wide. He seems to finally be having an impact. Glad we are keeping him for the rest of this year.

 

[yy_cheng]

Isn't he a bit small for that? I don't think he will provide much go forward.

Scott doesnt provide much go forward out wide either.

However, recently, he has introduced an offload to his game whether outwide or in the middle, it adds to his go forward abilities.

 

[ash411]

I noticed on the weekend that Gordon was feeding the ball to Semi a lot more than he normally does - he has tended to go himself but he really gave some good ball out wide. He seems to finally be having an impact. Glad we are keeping him for the rest of this year.

Agreed, So glad that we aren't losing him now, he will definitely come in handy this year.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

It's not all about go-forward. Most of the players in the middle are there for their defence. Even hookers need to offer workrate and line speed, on top of low mistakes at dummy half. If you have an attacking specialist in the middle you'll obviously use him, with him taking more carries than the others. But otherwise you can generate quick play-the-balls through your edge forwards, or even in the middle by using the ball and getting your middle forwards running against only two defenders (or even one).

Scott doesnt provide much go forward out wide either.

However, recently, he has introduced an offload to his game whether outwide or in the middle, it adds to his go forward abilities.

Fair enough. I just remember Gallen saying he prefers second row because of the size difference, and he's a fair bit beefier than Scott. I was thinking he might just be getting bashed in the middle and that might mean less minutes or more injuries, and he's one of our best players.

 

[Gronk]

I noticed on the weekend that Gordon was feeding the ball to Semi a lot more than he normally does - he has tended to go himself but he really gave some good ball out wide. He seems to finally be having an impact. Glad we are keeping him for the rest of this year.

Agreed, So glad that we aren't losing him now, he will definitely come in handy this year.

Love Flash, but a passing game is not in his back of tricks.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Fair enough. I just remember Gallen saying he prefers second row because of the size difference, and he's a fair bit beefier than Scott. I was thinking he might just be getting bashed in the middle and that might mean less minutes or more injuries, and he's one of our best players.

I think most forwards prefer running wide (including Junior Paulo) because there's more halfbacks out there to run at. What determines whether or not a bloke is actually an edge forward though is defence. Your position is where you defend. In attack you can move blokes all over the place (e.g. both halves on one side of the field or a damaging middle forward running wide).

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I think most forwards prefer running wide (including Junior Paulo) because there's more halfbacks out there to run at. What determines whether or not a bloke is actually an edge forward though is defence. Your position is where you defend. In attack you can move blokes all over the place (e.g. both halves on one side of the field or a damaging middle forward running wide).

I hadn't really thought about your position being where you defend but it makes sense.

 

[yy_cheng]

Fair enough. I just remember Gallen saying he prefers second row because of the size difference, and he's a fair bit beefier than Scott. I was thinking he might just be getting bashed in the middle and that might mean less minutes or more injuries, and he's one of our best players.

Scott wouldn't take the first 2 hitups. If the first 2 gets quick play the balls, he then has a good run.

If you watch him in the last say 3 games, he runs up and turns to look for an offload. If he gets one away, we make so much more metres. He does not throw willy nilly offloads either that are low percentages.

Do you remember the try assist he gave (I think Taka), where he ran at the line, turned and flicked it to Taka?

An ability to offload means the defense will watch you more and put more numbers on you to secure the ball. Whereas 1 out merchants such as Alvaro, Mannah, Peni means that the defense does not have to be so alert.

This is where Jnr Paulo's attack was so damaging as he could go in hard as a big body or pop up a pass.

 

[yy_cheng]

I hadn't really thought about your position being where you defend but it makes sense.

TBH, i don't think your position matters.

Sometimes you see the winger defending one in. Sometimes you see the halfback out on the wing.

Sterlo used to defend at fullback whilst Taylor took on the big boppers in the middle.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Scott wouldn't take the first 2 hitups. If the first 2 gets quick play the balls, he then has a good run.

If you watch him in the last say 3 games, he runs up and turns to look for an offload. If he gets one away, we make so much more metres. He does not throw willy nilly offloads either that are low percentages.

Do you remember the try assist he gave (I think Taka), where he ran at the line, turned and flicked it to Taka?

An ability to offload means the defense will watch you more and put more numbers on you to secure the ball. Whereas 1 out merchants such as Alvaro, Mannah, Peni means that the defense does not have to be so alert.

This is where Jnr Paulo's attack was so damaging as he could go in hard as a big body or pop up a pass.

I don't remember the offload but I know what you mean. Also about Paulo.

 

[phantom eel]

Looks like the Roosters have finally given up on signing Hayne. I wonder if Rothfield and the other lazy journalists will realise this.

No NRL side can compete with the money on offer from French rugby - just ask Semi!