Rumours and Stuff

[yy_cheng]

A one year extension? What’s the point of that?

Just time for ja to be ready

So he didn't exercise his po?

 

[Gazzamatta]

A one year extension? What’s the point of that?

Did he just take up his player option for 2023? I suppose he could have rejected it and immediately be on the market. Good start but more to come hopefully as November will come soon enough.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A one year extension? What’s the point of that?

Because he thinks he can get more money if he negotiates in November for 2024+ than if he signs somewhere now for 2023+.

 

[lucablight]

Just time for ja to be ready

So he didn't exercise his po?

I see. He is just serving his role as the perfect backup half until JA is ready.

 

[hindy111]

Because he thinks he can get more money if he negotiates in November for 2024+ than if he signs somewhere now for 2023+.

It's a risk for him also. Right now he could get a decent deal. If he stagnates this season and doesn't improve I reckon plenty of clubs and fans will change their tune on how high his ceiling is.
At the moment people still think he could be elite. If in 2022 he does no better then his last few years I reckon he will be seen as just a standard NRL half that goes ok with a chief play maker.

 

[hineyrulz]

Of course I've had a hard week. I've been sifting through the shite you post around here.... FFS

 

[Happy MEel]

It's a risk for him also. Right now he could get a decent deal. If he stagnates this season and doesn't improve I reckon plenty of clubs and fans will change their tune on how high his ceiling is.
At the moment people still think he could be elite. If in 2022 he does no better then his last few years I reckon he will be seen as just a standard NRL half that goes ok with a chief play maker.

Spot on. He’s an elite defensive half but there comes a time when you need to start producing in the attacking aspect of the game. If it’s not this year then I’m happy for him to start negotiating for 2024 and we can look elsewhere.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's a risk for him also. Right now he could get a decent deal. If he stagnates this season and doesn't improve I reckon plenty of clubs and fans will change their tune on how high his ceiling is.
At the moment people still think he could be elite. If in 2022 he does no better then his last few years I reckon he will be seen as just a standard NRL half that goes ok with a chief play maker.

I'm sure he's backing himself to be better at 22 than he was at 21. You'd be mad not to. Look at how Mahoney and Papali'i improved last year, in the year they turned 23. For a regular first grader under 24 a breakout season is always a big possibility. If it hasn't happened yet (like with Drown) you should assume it will.

 

[hindy111]

I'm sure he's backing himself to be better at 22 than he was at 21. You'd be mad not to. Look at how Mahoney and Papali'i improved last year, in the year they turned 23. For a regular first grader under 24 a breakout season is always a big possibility. If it hasn't happened yet (like with Drown) you should assume it will.

He would get 700k from some clubs right now I think. Another season like his 2021 and I just don't see that figure. The sample size would be to large and to many clubs would cha get opinion on how far he can go

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Here's our top 30 by age:

32
Rein

29
Nrown
Campbell-Gillard
Makatoa
Paulo
Sivo

28
Blake
Cartwright
Gutherson
Lane
Matterson
Moses
Opacic

26
Niukore

25
Stone

24
Mahoney
Papali'i
Simonsson

23
Dunster
Greig
Kaufusi
Perham

22
Drown
Naiduki

21
Hollis

20
Arthur
Penisini
Russell

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He would get 700k from some clubs right now I think. Another season like his 2021 and I just don't see that figure. The sample size would be to large and to many clubs would cha get opinion on how far he can go

He's probably getting $600k from us ffs. That plus a chance to go to market in November is worth plenty more than locking in $700k for multiple years. Even if he has another season like the last one he will be worth $700k+ next year. Without being an elite playmaker he is still a solid first grader with at least half a dozen of his best years in front of him. If he becomes an elite playmaker he's looking at $1.2M+ as early as 2024.

 

[hindy111]

He's probably getting $600k from us ffs. That plus a chance to go to market in November is worth plenty more than locking in $700k for multiple years. Even if he has another season like the last one he will be worth $700k+ next year. Without being an elite playmaker he is still a solid first grader with at least half a dozen of his best years in front of him. If he becomes an elite playmaker he's looking at $1.2M+ as early as 2024.

Nobody is paying him 700k for what he provides/shown in 2021. Because most began to question him. He looks a solid toiler at this point.

 

[Bandwagon]

For mine it looks like Dylbro is doing what the coaching staff is asking of him, like Mahoney before him I reckon we'll see him add to his game this year, but it'll be evolutionary not revolutionary. From the outside looking in that just seems to be how we looking to develop young blokes, hopefully building a more complete player with really solid fundamentals in his game.

 

[hindy111]

I'll be honest I thought Brown looked more dangerous in his first season. I thought WOW this kid is going to be good. And he is solid but I don't think he is in Moses class.
Moses has worked on his game. But he was still showing brilliance from day one.

As far as Mahoney goes I think it's debatable what improved him so much.
Yes partially his own game but Jnr and RCG had almost career best seasons. Papali'i was amazing and Marata played the best he has. Our forward pack in 2021 was at its best in about 20yrs.
It isn't like he was carving up with constant 20mtr+ darts. His biggest weapon was his short pass to a forward from 1mtr put when the defense was gassed and taking more kicks. He always had a solid kick game. If anything he just become more comfortable in his role.

 

[Bandwagon]

I'll be honest I thought Brown looked more dangerous in his first season. I thought WOW this kid is going to be good. And he is solid but I don't think he is in Moses class.
Moses has worked on his game. But he was still showing brilliance from day one.

As far as Mahoney goes I think it's debatable what improved him so much.
Yes partially his own game but Jnr and RCG had almost career best seasons. Papali'i was amazing and Marata played the best he has. Our forward pack in 2021 was at its best in about 20yrs.
It isn't like he was carving up with constant 20mtr+ darts. His biggest weapon was his short pass to a forward from 1mtr put when the defense was gassed and taking more kicks. He always had a solid kick game. If anything he just become more comfortable in his role.

Rheed kicked more, ran more, offloaded more and had far more try assists in 21 than in 20 or any previous year. Without doubt our pack contributed to that, but it's not like that's in isolation either, both will feed off each other for improvement.

Still, I think Rheed's improvement wasn't huge, it was just that as you'd expect from a bloke his age he's added to his game, and should this year as well.

 

[hindy111]

After 3yrs Panthers fans wanted to turn Nathan into a hooker. Many didn't think he was good enough.

 

[T-Boon]

As far as Mahoney goes I think it's debatable what improved him so much.
Yes partially his own game but Jnr and RCG had almost career best seasons. Papali'i was amazing and Marata played the best he has. Our forward pack in 2021 was at its best in about 20yrs.
It isn't like he was carving up with constant 20mtr+ darts. His biggest weapon was his short pass to a forward from 1mtr put when the defense was gassed and taking more kicks. He always had a solid kick game. If anything he just become more comfortable in his role.

I think Mahoney's best asset is just good clean passing and decision making from DH.

 

[T-Boon]

why does D-H change to "Fake"?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

I'll be honest I thought Brown looked more dangerous in his first season. I thought WOW this kid is going to be good. And he is solid but I don't think he is in Moses class

They're totally different players and Gutho steals heaps of Brown’s try assists. (For that matter, every TA Rheed gets is one that the halves have potentially missed out on.) Dylbo is perfect for our team.

 

[Gronk]

why does D-H change to "Fake"?

Dummy half