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Tommy Coco

Tommy Coco

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Not based on any stat's, merit given to Wicks and the back rowers for the extra time they spend on the pitch. I sense the lift when Mannah returns but thought the other guys provide more value, IMO
 
Obscene Assassin

Obscene Assassin

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Tommy Coco said:
Not based on any stat's, merit given to Wicks and the back rowers for the extra time they spend on the pitch. I sense the lift when Mannah returns but thought the other guys provide more value, IMO
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This was about defence though and Mannah is our 2nd best defender, possibly 3rd behind Terepo. Mannah is also very good value for the amount he is on the cap for.
 
natheel

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hindy111 said:
Well both would be infront of Alvaro IMO and Wicks is not exactly miles above nor is Tim as far as level goes.
For me Tim if fit starts every game but these guys will be snapping at heels.
I doubt guys like Rory play and first grade nor would Hasson who I think is an interesting player .

Hasson has great size so a good year in Gym and he could be moulded into a solid prop. Needs 6-7 kgs
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Yeh got to be honest Terepo has finally started to progress as a player and can play backrow too as could Matagi (have we signed him?)
Maybe with a few new forwards on board guys like Gower may be moved on? I like Gower and what he's done for us but he deserves to play first grade week in and out imo
 
hindy111

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Does anyone consider hurting players in defense?
An area where KE rates high and scott as they hit hard and take the wind out of players
 
Obscene Assassin

Obscene Assassin

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hindy111 said:
Does anyone consider hurting players in defense?
An area where KE rates high and scott as they hit hard and take the wind out of players
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Does Scott really hurt players though? He wrestles really well and slows down the ruck massively but I wouldn't consider him a hard hitter. Moeroa seems to hit pretty hard in defence too.
 
Poupou Escobar

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Does it actually have any effect on the game or just make the fans feel good? Strong initial contact is important to the quality of the ensuing wrestle, but these are NRL players. Getting hurt doesn't stop them.
 
hindy111

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Poupou Escobar said:
Does it actually have any effect on the game or just make the fans feel good? Strong initial contact is important to the quality of the ensuing wrestle, but these are NRL players. Getting hurt doesn't stop them.
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Have you played footy? Bloody hell, of course it helps you by hurting them. Just like guys who run hard. You sap their energy. Hard hits take it out of you.They wear you out.
The energy to bring down a kasiano is sapping and draining. Or a hard bone rattling hit could even injure the opposition for the remainder of game.
As for Scott true , in his day he hit harder but is more just a tuff defender. Tepai can hit hard also.
If your a player you know who hurts in defense and would rather not run at them if can avoid!!!
Sharks pack all hit hard in d
 
miatch

miatch

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miatch

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Tommy Coco said:
Not based on any stat's, merit given to Wicks and the back rowers for the extra time they spend on the pitch. I sense the lift when Mannah returns but thought the other guys provide more value, IMO
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Our forward packs, based on order of effective tackle % ...

Terepo
O'Brien
Gower
Mannah
Scott
Peats
Pritchard
Paulo
Moeroa
Edwards
Alvaro
Ma'u
Wicks
 
Gronk

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OFF CONTRACT LIST FOR 2016

BRISBANE BRONCOS

New deal: Wayne Bennett (until the end of 2019), Jonus Pearson (until 2017), Jaydn Su’A (until end of 2018), Herman Ese’ese (until end of 2017), Kodi Nikorima (until end of 2018), Matt Gillett (until end of 2020), Tom Opacic (until the end of 2018), Francis Molo (until end of 2017), Mitchell Dodds (until 2017 from Warrington), Travis Waddell (until 2017), Joe Boyce (until 2017)

Leaving: Dale Copley (Immediate release to Roosters until end of 2018), Brett Grienke (Immediate release to Rabbitohs until end of 2017), Greg Eden (Castleford until end of 2018), Corey Parker (Retiring at end of the season), Jarrod Wallace (Titans until end of 2019), Lachlan Maranta (Rugby at end of season), Darren Nicholls (Penrith until 2017), Carlin Anderson (Cowboys)

CANBERRA RAIDERS

New deal: Josh Hodgson (until the end of 2018), Kato Ottio (from PNG Hunters until end of 2017), Iosia Soliola (until the end of 2018), Jordan Turner (From St Helens until end of 2018), Jeff Lima (until end of 2017), Nick Cotric (until end of 2018), Luke Bateman (until end of 2018), Elliott Whitehead (extension until end of 2018), Clay Priest (until end of 2018), Zac Santo (Until end of 2017), Kurt Baptiste (until end of 2018)

Leaving: Tevita Pangai (released to Brisbane until end of 2018), Sisa Waqa (end of June for French Rugby), Mitch Barnett (released to Newcastle until end of 2017), Frank-Paul Nuuausala (St Helens until end of 2019), Brenko Lee (Bulldogs until at least the end of 2018), Sam Williams (Wakefield until end of 2017), Paul Vaughan (Dragons until 2019)

CANTERBURY-BANKSTOWN BULLDOGS

New deal: Josh Jackson (until the end of 2020), David Klemmer (until the end of 2020), Moses Mbye (until the end of 2020), Greg Eastwood (until end of 2018), Harry Siejka (For the rest of 2016 from Bradford)

Leaving: Shaun Lane (released to Warriors until end of 2016), Dane Chisholm (released to Bradford until end of 2017), Sam Perrett (retiring at end of season), Pat O’Hanlon (retired), Curtis Rona (released to rugby at end of season), Tim Browne (Panthers until end of 2019),

Tony Williams (Sharks)

CRONULLA SHARKS

New deal: Jack Bird (until end of 2017), Jayson Bukuya (until end of 2018), Shane Flanagan (until end of 2019), Kurt Capewell (until end of 2017), Paul Gallen (until end of 2017), Sam Tagataese (until end of 2017), Luke Lewis (until end of 2017), Chris Heighington (until 2017)

Leaving: David Fifita (released to Wakefield for rest of the season), Mitch Brown (released to Leigh until end of 2018), Michael Ennis (Retiring at end of season), Josh Cleeland (Bulldogs until 2018), Connor Tracey (Rabbitohs until 2018), Matt McIlwrick (Tigers until 2017), Jesse Sene-Lefao (Castleford until 2018)

GOLD COAST TITANS

New deal: Jeff Lynch (From Canberra until end of 2017), Cameron Cullen (From Queensland Cup until end of 2016), Kane Elgey (until end of 2018), Dan Sarginson (From Wigan until the end of 2018), Anthony Don (until the end of 2018), Jarryd Hayne (signed until end of 2018), Ash Taylor (extension until end of 2018), Nathaniel Peteru (until 2017)

Leaving: Nathan Friend (retiring at end of season), David Hala (released), Nene Macdonald (Dragons until end of 2019), David Mead (Broncos until end of 2017), Luke Douglas (St Helens until end of 2019), Kierran Moseley (not re-signed), Matt Robinson (not re-signed), Matt Srama (not re-signed), Lachlan Burr (Bradford until 2017)

MANLY SEA EAGLES

New deal: Pita Godinet (until end of 2016 from Wakefield), Frank Winterstein (from rugby sevens until end of 2017), Brenton Lawrence (activated option until end of 2017), Brayden Wiliame (until end of 2018), Jorge Taufua (until end of 2017), Jake Trbojevic (until end of 2020), Tom Trbojevic (until end of 2020), Marty Taupau (until end of 2020)

Leaving: Jamie Lyon (retiring at the end of the season), Tim Moltzen (retired), Tom Symonds (released to Huddersfield), Luke Burgess (released to Salford), Feleti Mateo (released to Salford), Fabian Goodall (rugby), Nathan Green (not re-signed), Jayden Hodges (not re-signed), Isaac John (not re-signed), Blake Leary (not re-signed), Tony Satini (not re-signed), Josh Starling (not re-signed), Liam Knight (Roosters until end of 2019)

MELBOURNE STORM

New deal: Tim Glasby (until the end of 2018), Craig Bellamy (until the end of 2018), Shem Tatupu (From AFL until the end of 2018), Christian Welch (until end of 2017), Dale Finucane (activated option for 2017), Cameron Munster (extension until end of 2019), Erevonu Kamikamica (From Sunshine Coast until end of 2018), Young Tonumaipea (until end of 2018), Justin Olam (From PNG until end of 2018), Cooper Cronk (until end of 2018), Nelson Asofa-Solomona (until 2017), Cheyse Blair (until 2018), Kenny Bromwich (until 2018), Mark Nicholls (until 2017), Felise Kaufusi (until 2017), Slade Griffin (until 2017), Ryley Jacks (from Sunshine Coast until end of 2017)

Leaving: Marika Koroibete (Melbourne Rebels rugby until end of 2018), Josh Kerr (Dragons until end of 2018), Ryan Morgan (St Helens until end of 2019), Blake Green (Manly until end of 2018), Richard Kennar (Bulldogs until end of 2018), Ben Hampton (Cowboys until end of 2018), Matt White (not re-signed)

WARRIORS

New deal: Ofahiki Ogden (until end of 2017), Mason Lino (until end of 2017), Ken Maumalo (until end of 2018), Jazz Tevaga (until end of 2018), Solomone Kata (until end of 2019), Bunty Afoa (until the end of 2019), Erin Clark (until the end of 2018), Ofahiki Ogden (until the end of 2018), Patrick Sipley (until the end of 2017), James Gavet (until end of 2017), Charlie Gubb (until end of 2017), Ata Hingano (until end of 2017), David Fusitu’a (until end of 2019)

Leaving: Raymond Faitala-Mariner (release to Bulldogs until end of 2019), Konrad Hurrell (released to Titans until end of 2017), Jeff Robson (released on compassionate grounds), Thomas Leuluai (Wigan at end of the season), Ben Henry (retired), Shaun Lane (Manly until 2018), Jonathan Wright (Manly until end of 2018)

NEWCASTLE KNIGHTS

New deal: Daniel and Jacob Saifiti (extension until the end of 2018), Chris Adams (For the rest of the season), Josh King (until end of 2018), Nathan Ross (until end of 2018), Brock Lamb (until at least 2018), Ken Sio (From Hull KR until 2018)

Leaving: James McManus (retired), Joseph Tapine (Released to Raiders until end of 2019), Jeremy Smith (retiring at the end of the season), Tariq Sims (Immediate release to St George Illawarra until 2019), Robbie Rochow (South Sydney until end of 2017), Kade Snowden (retired)

NORTH QUEENSLAND COWBOYS

New deal: Jake Granville (until end of 2018), Antonio Winterstein (until end of 2018), Lachlan Coote (until the end of 2018), Kane Linnett (until the end of 2018), Justin O’Neill (until end of 2018), Ethan Lowe (until end of 2018), Javid Bowen (until end of 2018), Sam Hoare (until end of 2018), Patrick Kaufusi (until end of 2017), Josh Chudleigh (until end of 2018), Corey Jensen (until end of 2017), Marcus Jensen (until end of 2018), Ben Hannant (until end of 2017)

Leaving: Matthew Wright (released to Manly until end of 2018), James Tamou (Penrith until end of 2020), Mosese Pangai (Broncos until end of 2017), Rory Kostjasyn (Knights until end of 2018), Jahrome Hughes (Storm until 2018), Brandon Smith (Storm until 2019), Tautau Moga (Broncos until 2018)
 
Gronk

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PARRAMATTA EELS

New deal: Daniel Alvaro (until the end of 2018), Kaysa Pritchard (until the end of 2018), Alex Twal (until the end of 2017), Rory O’Brien (until end of 2017), Jamal Fogarty (From Burleigh until end of 2018), Corey Norman (until end of 2019), Danny Wicks (until 2018), Kenny Edwards (until end of 2019), Isaac De Gois (until end of 2018), Cody Nelson (until end of 2017), Brad Takairangi (until end of 2019), Manu Ma’u (until end of 2019), James Hasson (until end of 2017), Bevan French (until 2019)

Leaving: Anthony Watmough (Retired), Pauli Pauli (released to join Knights until end of 2017), Junior Paulo (Released to Raiders until end of 2018), Ryan Morgan (release to Storm for 2016 with option to return in 2017), Nathan Peats (released to Titans until end of 2017), Kieren Moss (released to Bradford), Michael Gordon (roosters until end of 2017), Tyrell Fuimaono (Rabbitohs until 2018), Kieran Foan (Warriors until end of 2017), Luke Kelly (Rabbitohs until 2017), Mitch Cornish (Roosters)

PENRITH PANTHERS

New deal: Oliver Clark (until end of 2018), Soni Luke (until end of 2018), Tyrone May (until end of 2018), Dylan Edwards (until end of 2018), Isaah Yeo (until end of 2019), James Fisher-Harris (until end of 2019), Nathan Cleary (until end of 2019), Zak Hardaker (Joins from Leeds until the end of 2016), Josh Mansour (until end of 2018), Leilani Latu (extension until end of 2020), Peter Wallace (until end of 2018), Trent Merrin (extension until 2020), Matt Moylan (until end of 2021), Bryce Cartwright (until end of 2021), Tyrone Peachey (until the end of 2019)

Leaving: Chris Smith (released to Roosters on deal until end of 2017), Elijah Taylor (released to Tigers on deal until end of 2016), James Segeyaro (immediate release to Leeds), Ben Garcia (immediate release to Catalans), Jamie Soward (released to London Broncos until end of 2016), Robert Jennings (Rabbitohs until 2018), Braidon Burns (Rabbitohs until 2018), George Jennings (Eels until 2017), Tupou Sopoaga (Released to rugby), Will Smith (Eels)

SOUTH SYDNEY RABBITOHS

New deal: Dane Nielsen (From Bradford until end of 2017), Cody Walker (until end of 2019), Jason Clark (until end of 2018), Jack Gosiewski (until end of 2017), Greg Inglis (until the end of 2020), Hymel Hunt (until end of 2018), Adam Reynolds (until end of 2021), Damien Cook (until 2019), Zane Musgrove (until 2017), Michael Maguire (until 2019), Anthony Cherrington (Redcliffe until 2017)

Leaving: Tim Grant (Immediate release to Tigers until end of 2017), Chris Grevsmuhl (released to Panthers until end of 2018), John Olive (Released to Gold Coast until end of 2018), Luke Keary (Roosters until end of 2018), Tom Hughes (Knights on immediate release), Paul Carter (Roosters until end of 2017), Kirisome Auva’a (sacked), Nathan Brown (Eels until 2018), Cameron McInnes (Dragons until end of 2018), Michael Oldfield (Panthers until end of 2017), Samisoni Langi (Penrith train and trial), Brock Gray (Roosters until 2018)

ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA DRAGONS

New deal: Hame Sele (until end of 2018), Patrick Herbert (until end of 2018), Reuben Garrick (until end of 2018), Matthew Dufty (until end of 2018), Joel Thompson (until end of 2018), Jake Marketo (until end of 2017), Tyson Frizell (Until end of 2020), Levi Dodd (until 2017), Jacob Hind (until 2017), Chris Lewis (until 2017), Shaun Nona (until 2017)

Leaving: Peter Mata’utia (released to Knights until end of 2017), Sebastine Ikahihifo (released to Huddersfield), Mike Cooper (released end of 2016), Ben Creagh (retiring), Adam Quinlan (not re-signed), Benji Marshall (Brisbane until 2017), Mitch Rein (Penrith until 2018), Dylan Farrell (retired)

SYDNEY ROOSTERS

New deal: Boyd Cordner (re-signed until end of 2018), Jackson Hastings,(until end of the 2017), Isaac Liu (until end of 2018), Trent Robinson (until end of 2019), Mitchell Aubusson (until end of 2019), Nat Butcher (until end of 2018), Zane Tetevano (until 2017), Victor Radley (until 2018), Siosiua Taukeiaho (until end of 2020), Eloni Vunakece (until 2017)

Leaving: Michael Jennings (Immediate release to Eels until end of 2019), Brendan Elliot (released to Newcastle until end of 2017), Joe Burgess (returning to England), Vincent Leuluai (Melbourne — released until end of 2018), Omar Slaimankhel (Manly on train and trial deal), Sam Moa (Catalans until end of 2018), Mitchell Frei (not re-signed)

WESTS TIGERS

New deal: Josh Aloiai (until the end of 2017), Michael Chee-Kam (until the end of 2017), Chris Lawrence (until the end of 2019), JJ Felise (until end of 2018), Luke Brooks (until end of 2017), Mitchell Moses (until end of 2017), Curtis Sironen (until end of 2018), Jacob Liddle (end of 2018), Sauaso Sue (end of 2018), Esan Marsters (until end of 2018), Justin Hunt (end of 2017), Jack Littlejohn (end of 2017), Bayley Sironen (until 2017), Jamal Idris (until 2017)

Leaving: Marion Seve (released to Brisbane), Billy McConnachie (released to Brisbane until end of 2016), Lamar Liolevave (released to Bulldogs until end of 2017), Jesse Parahi (released to rugby sevens), Jack Buchanan (released to Widnes), Josh Drinkwater (released to Leigh Centurions), Asipeli Fine (Bulldogs until end of 2018), Josh Addo-Carr (Storm until end of 2019), Dene Halatau (retiring — end of season), Manaia Cherrington (Sharks until 2017), Robbie Farah (Rabbitohs until end of 2018)

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