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hindy111

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Is he average thou? Would love to see him in another system before I’ll say he’s average.

We will see. I don't ever see him being a Cook,Korisau or Grant style player. I'd back Bailey to be a better hooker tbh and Simpkins
 

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I doubt BA is coming out and saying never run or engage markers. When Rein played he was taking lots of darts as was Lussick last season.
I don't think it's in his game.
Most of the things that happen on the field are the result of player decisions. The coach isn’t up in the stands telling them when to run or pass, or which side to go and so on. He can give them their priorities (e.g. set up right and shift left, or aim to play the ball between the posts on tackle five) but he can’t be telling merkins never do this or always do that because it hurts their ability to react to the game situation. This is why experience and decision making are valuable attributes in players.
 

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I doubt BA is coming out and saying never run or engage markers. When Rein played he was taking lots of darts as was Lussick last season.
I don't think it's in his game.
Yeah. Probably. Given hes had Johns, Ennis and Woolford to work with his running game although minimal has become non existent. And as for engaging the markers, forget it. Harry Grant would be no faster than Rheed but hes a Thoroughbred V Clydesdale between the ears compared to Rheed. Ill still be interested to see how he plays at The Dogs cause Im not totally excusing BA. I think BAs mantra is just get the ball to the halfs. All that said I dont think Gutho helps him much either.
 
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IFR33K

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I doubt BA is coming out and saying never run or engage markers. When Rein played he was taking lots of darts as was Lussick last season.
I don't think it's in his game.

So why isn’t he improving or coached to improve his/our game?

I think he’s just told to pass and not encourage to engage the markers.

also, how many times has gutho pushed him out of the way, for a scoot.
 
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Joshuatheeel

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So why isn’t he improving or coached to improve his/our game?

I think he’s just told to pass and not encourage to engage the markers.

also, how many times has gutho pushed him out of the way, for a scoot.
Why does Paulo off load but not RCG……

Why does Moses do the kicking not Drown?
 

eels_fan

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Nathan Cleary currently on a plane to Bali to have a break and recharge his batteries…

what a prima-Donna joke. Has anyone ever heard of players heading overseas mid-season for a break?

Hope he gets Foot in Mouth and gives it to the whole squad and they have to forfeit games due to stupidity
 

Soren Lorenson

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Nathan Cleary currently on a plane to Bali to have a break and recharge his batteries…

what a prima-Donna joke. Has anyone ever heard of players heading overseas mid-season for a break?

Hope he gets Foot in Mouth and gives it to the whole squad and they have to forfeit games due to stupidity
Ask Collingwood AFL how that turned out for them.
 

Pazza

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Nathan Cleary currently on a plane to Bali to have a break and recharge his batteries…

what a prima-Donna joke. Has anyone ever heard of players heading overseas mid-season for a break?

Hope he gets Foot in Mouth and gives it to the whole squad and they have to forfeit games due to stupidity

If the eels where in the same position I'd be more than happy for players to take a break.
 

King-Gutho94

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Nathan Cleary currently on a plane to Bali to have a break and recharge his batteries…

what a prima-Donna joke. Has anyone ever heard of players heading overseas mid-season for a break?

Hope he gets Foot in Mouth and gives it to the whole squad and they have to forfeit games due to stupidity
Wayne Bennett did it all time with broncos players. After origin with the bye he told them to go away for the week and if anyone was in Brisbane they would be forced to train.
 

eels_fan

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If the eels where in the same position I'd be more than happy for players to take a break.
A break, sure. Go to Cairns, Hamilton Island.

Oversees to a party hub in the third world country that’s currently being ravished with a disease (MCD), covid etc and poor medical services?

it is supreme stupidity and I’d be saying the exact same thing if it was a Parra player.
 

hindy111

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So why isn’t he improving or coached to improve his/our game?

I think he’s just told to pass and not encourage to engage the markers.

also, how many times has gutho pushed him out of the way, for a scoot.

I just think Reed is playing his game. He will have better seasons then this one and potentially worse. He may even have a few better seasons that last year. But he also may not.

I've seen heaps of players do this. Only special players have consistently top level seasons year after year. Most but seem to have a few peak years some solid years and a few bad ones.

Look at Gutherson. His current forms terrible. Lanes the opposite. Playing great. I can't see this having anything to do with the coach at all.
 

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I just think Reed is playing his game. He will have better seasons then this one and potentially worse. He may even have a few better seasons that last year. But he also may not.

I've seen heaps of players do this. Only special players have consistently top level seasons year after year. Most but seem to have a few peak years some solid years and a few bad ones.

Look at Gutherson. His current forms terrible. Lanes the opposite. Playing great. I can't see this having anything to do with the coach at all.

Sorry hindy, wasn’t it you that told us rheed had a top running game in the 20’s and He’s not running anymore. I’m thinking the plan for him is to just give good early service. I honestly can’t wait to see how he plays at the dogs.
 

hindy111

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Sorry hindy, wasn’t it you that told us rheed had a top running game in the 20’s and He’s not running anymore. I’m thinking the plan for him is to just give good early service. I honestly can’t wait to see how he plays at the dogs.

Yes he did. In under 20s where defense is slow and 90% of players never make it to the NRL. Massive difference at NRL level. Defenses are tighter and line speed would be twice as quick. Every player in general is faster and stronger. There is less space.
Rheed also has packed on weight to help survive which of slowed him down a little as well.Throw all of this in and a great run game in 20s doesn't mean it will survive in the NRL
 

IFR33K

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Yes he did. In under 20s where defense is slow and 90% of players never make it to the NRL. Massive difference at NRL level. Defenses are tighter and line speed would be twice as quick. Every player in general is faster and stronger. There is less space.
Rheed also has packed on weight to help survive which of slowed him down a little as well.Throw all of this in and a great run game in 20s doesn't mean it will survive in the NRL

I agree re 20’s and first grade. I’m just not ready to write him off or call him average.
 

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I just think Reed is playing his game. He will have better seasons then this one and potentially worse. He may even have a few better seasons that last year. But he also may not.

I've seen heaps of players do this. Only special players have consistently top level seasons year after year. Most but seem to have a few peak years some solid years and a few bad ones.

Look at Gutherson. His current forms terrible. Lanes the opposite. Playing great. I can't see this having anything to do with the coach at all.
So you have no idea like the rest of us. 🤷‍♂️
 

Poupou Escobar

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Sorry hindy, wasn’t it you that told us rheed had a top running game in the 20’s and He’s not running anymore. I’m thinking the plan for him is to just give good early service. I honestly can’t wait to see how he plays at the dogs.
Everyone has a good running game in the 20s
 

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