Rumours and Stuff

[Gronk]

I, unlike a lot here and elsewhere, have been disappointed by Moeroa and his lack of offloading. We had a team of forwards (except for Ma'u, Edwards and Gower when picked) with no offloading skills and no variety. Just bash and barge footy, not very pretty to watch and not that effective.

BA has addressed that by bringing in 3 forwards (not Matagi) with offloading skills. Along with a lot of skills training in the pre-season I expect the forwards to play a much more exciting brand of footy this year, all we need now is for the forwards to be supported and hopefully our attack will improve as much as our defence did last year.

Tepai is a work in progress and I think he really improved in the back end of the year. In fact he improved to such an extent that we may struggle keeping him.

 

[hindy111]

Matagi has quite a nice short ball close to line. Very effective.
Offloads can be coached.A lot of our forwards just do not try.
Tepai will stay 100%. Do not be suprised if Beau Scott gets let go a year early at season end.
We will have potentially a ferocious pack.
Its balanced well.
KE - Manu - Brown - Frank - Matagi - Vae
Can all offload.
Scott should do it less as his are terrible most the time, just flings it into know mans land.
Alvaro - Terepo - Mannah need to work on offload along with Tepai.

 

[hindy111]

Most improved -
Kaysa-king- bevan - gutherson - tepai are the likely candiates.
Id say Terepo is close to as good as he can be.And he is a solid bench first frader.

 

[hindy111]

Bar Beau scott half of our players should be as good and the other half improve . Along with new additions.
A lot of our backups are all on way up to like Auava jennings woods twal hasson schulte etc.

A lot of sides next year will decline. Without looking at squads yet in detail .
I actually can see a team like cowboys busting completely

 

[The Engineers Room]

Mannah need to work on offload along with Tepai.

If you can get Mannah to offload or even pass the ball, you are a magician. He goes to ground with it more than anyone else.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Not everyone needs to be a mad offloading merkin.

 

[Twizzle]

helps if they are tho

 

[Gronk]

The Fog

 

[hineyrulz]

Not everyone needs to be a mad offloading merkin.

Come on mate Parraball is he best!!

 

[Gary Gutful]

helps if they are tho

Unless they are Arthur F**ken Beetson then it doesn't help.

We will be spilling our lollies more often than El D does when he stares at his collection of John Grant photos.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Agreed Gary. Even last year before our points deduction our attack was poor, I think we were 3rd or 4th last in attack and about 3rd best in defence. You cannot continue to win games based purely on defence, St George tried that last year, so your attack has to improve. A good spine helps but Dogs continue to win games with one of the poorest spines of any club as have good offloading forwards. If you look at Cronulla they had a good spine, good D and good attack with offloading forwards. To be successful not only do you need luck, few injuries, but also good all round team. Hopefully we are now heading in that direction.

Eels averaged 11 offloads a game in 2016, the dogs also averaged 11. Sharks only averaged 1 more at 12 offloads a game.

Regarding our attack, are you able to tell me how many games our first choice spine combo ( 1, 6,7,9) played together last year ? Compared to the first choice combo for the Sharks / dogs?

 

[oldmancraigy]

Well said Joshuatheeel.

Seems there is a fallacy that sticks its head up around here every 6 months that 'we need more offloads'.
It's great to generate 2nd phase play, but isn't necessarily the answer to scoring points.

 

[Gary Gutful]

How would generating more second phase play not be beneficial for our attack?

 

[El Diablo]

We will be spilling our lollies more often than El D does when he stares at his collection of John Grant photos.

you're the one who has saved pics of him seeing you upload them

i just post internet links seeing i wouldn't want the bald bearded f**k infecting my PC

 

[Gary Gutful]

you're the one who has saved pics of him seeing you upload them

i just post internet links seeing i wouldn't want the bald bearded f**k infecting my PC

I haven't worked out how to post internet links from my mobile.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

How would generating more second phase play not be beneficial for our attack?

Errors

 

[El Diablo]

I haven't worked out how to post internet links from my mobile.

but you've worked out how to save pics of him and upload them

 

[oldmancraigy]

How would generating more second phase play not be beneficial for our attack?

How would it be beneficial?

Isn't it dependant on personnel/ system to use the extra possession to score the points?
It's easy to say 'just flop it out the back', but that's not a magic bullet....
I'm not saying it is a bad thing - just the fallacy is that 'we don't offload enough, and teams like the Dogs do it all the time and score hjeaps' - but the Dogs do it the same amount we did, and stink in attack anyway.

 

[hindy111]

If you can get Mannah to offload or even pass the ball, you are a magician. He goes to ground with it more than anyone else.

One of our best tries last year against saints was from a great offload by mannah to get it going...
Half these tries aren't scored if it wasn't for benvan -Worth a watch

 

[TheRon]

NRL club chairmen walk out as Todd Greenberg and John Grant backflip on funding

FOUR club chairmen have stormed out of a fiery meeting with NRL bosses after a breakdown in negotiations over future funding which threatens the worst split in the game since Super League.

Canterbury’s Ray Dib, Cronulla’s Damian Keogh, Melbourne Storm’s Bart Campbell and the Cowboys’ Laurence Lancini all walked out after 15 minutes.

They met at a nearby hotel to discuss their next move.

Those club bosses also have the support of Roosters boss Nick Politis, who is overseas but left them with his proxy vote.

Seven chairmen from other clubs remained in the room.

In a dramatic day at the NRL’s Moore Park headquarters, chief executive Todd Greenberg and commission chairman John Grant reneged on a deal done last year to fund the clubs 30 per cent more than the salary cap each year.


They told the chairmen that all previous agreements had been scrapped and they were now working on a new strategic plan on how to spend the $1.8 billion TV deal.

There was talk after the meeting that clubs would now issue a vote of no confidence in Grant as chairman of the commission.

The chairmen met recently with the NRL and could not agree on any of the 12 points on the agenda.

All 16 clubs end their participation agreements with the NRL next year, which has led to talks of a rebel breakaway group.

The NRL will shortly release a statement on the meeting.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g/news-story/f179f5411c61bda478d1e7723fc13658