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Poupou Escobar

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why dont we have access to 3rd party money?

seems like everyone else does
We probably do, we are more successful than a lot of clubs. But there are a couple of clubs who outperform us over the long run. These are the ones likely to have significantly more in TPAs.

But what of the Dogs? They’ve been poor for a few years, but prior to about 2014 they were a very strong club, since at least the 80s. Maybe they’re back?
 

Gronk

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who said we don't ?

the same rules apply to every NRL club, its probably not something that gets advertised or released to the media
When players are introduced at the ground on game day, they almost always have a sponsor linked to them. Are they not a declaration of a TPA ?
 

Obscene Assassin

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When players are introduced at the ground on game day, they almost always have a sponsor linked to them. Are they not a declaration of a TPA ?

They're sponsors. Pretty sure a TPA the club can't be involved, like when a player posts a photo on social media about a car dealership they won't be wearing any club merchandise.
 

Noise

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When players are introduced at the ground on game day, they almost always have a sponsor linked to them. Are they not a declaration of a TPA ?
I don't think so. They are club sponsors that get assigned to a player for game day. Third party sponsorships can't have anything to do with the club nor show the players in club colours/attire.

I know one club actually drew the players names out of a hat to match up those game day sponsorships one season. Club sponsors, not 3rd party agreements.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I don't think so. They are club sponsors that get assigned to a player for game day. Third party sponsorships can't have anything to do with the club nor show the players in club colours/attire.

I know one club actually drew the players names out of a hat to match up those game day sponsorships one season. Club sponsors, not 3rd party agreements.
Ours used to be linked to a jersey number, so 1800POOMAN was the game day sponsor for whoever was wearing jersey 2 that day. Definitely not TPAs.
 

Twizzle

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Pretty sure a TPA the club can't be involved, like when a player posts a photo on social media about a car dealership they won't be wearing any club merchandise.

I'm pretty sure you are right, but I also think it is naive to think it doesn't happen.

I remember when the Rheed Mahoney transfer was in the news and the Doggies came back with a significantly higher bid, a large part of that was TPA.

From memory the same article stated that our offer to Rheed contained a TPA, ours was something like $25K, the doggies was well over the $100K. But of course, it was completely independent of the club 1668648883751.png
 

Obscene Assassin

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I'm pretty sure you are right, but I also think it is naive to think it doesn't happen.

I remember when the Rheed Mahoney transfer was in the news and the Doggies came back with a significantly higher bid, a large part of that was TPA.

From memory the same article stated that our offer to Rheed contained a TPA, ours was something like $25K, the doggies was well over the $100K. But of course, it was completely independent of the club View attachment 68200

Last I checked clubs can organise up to 600k worth of TPAs
 

yy_cheng

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I'm pretty sure you are right, but I also think it is naive to think it doesn't happen.

I remember when the Rheed Mahoney transfer was in the news and the Doggies came back with a significantly higher bid, a large part of that was TPA.

From memory the same article stated that our offer to Rheed contained a TPA, ours was something like $25K, the doggies was well over the $100K. But of course, it was completely independent of the club View attachment 68200
So if we can't match the dogs TPAs for Moses, should we use cap space to meet the dog's offer and pay overs?
 

IFR33K

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So if we can't match the dogs TPAs for Moses, should we use cap space to meet the dog's offer and pay overs?

What is overs thou? You need a genuine half to steer the team around the park and create opportunities. Moses does that. What’s the point of losing Moses and then picking up a second string half? Moses should of been signed up long ago by us. We know what he adds to the team. We’re supposedly still looking to sign other players and yet to commit long term to our halves.
 

yy_cheng

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What is overs thou? You need a genuine half to steer the team around the park and create opportunities. Moses does that. What’s the point of losing Moses and then picking up a second string half? Moses should of been signed up long ago by us. We know what he adds to the team. We’re supposedly still looking to sign other players and yet to commit long term to our halves.
Mate, I want Moses and Drown to stay with my team slowly transitioning to

1. Drown
6. Guth
7. Moses

But if the Dogs or Cats offer too much in particular with TPA, will MON match it?

I doubt it depending on the difference. He didn't match it with Paps, Mahoney or Marata.

We have alot of money tied up in our Props and Guth and you could probably add Matto to that list.

So without a good pack, Moses can only kick our way out but we will still struggle.

Moses can be replaced by maybe

To'o, George Williams and another good rucker outer. Then his long kicking game is not so required.

If dogs steal Moses, we can also try and steal Burton and his kicking game will cover Moses. If we manage to keep Drown, he will be our attacking threat.

So we might give Moses $1.2M max. Say we need to goto $1.4M to match the dogs, then

To'o, Williams combined might be cheaper
 

Poupou Escobar

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Moses should of been signed up long ago by us.
He has a player option for 2024 ffs. He could've signed until 2024 without the option, but he chose this instead. Obviously the club agreed but it takes two to tango. With a player option he's free to test the market. We can't sign a replacement until he signs elsewhere or the player option expires. But he's in no hurry.
 

yy_cheng

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He has a player option for 2024 ffs. He could've signed until 2024 without the option, but he chose this instead. Obviously the club agreed but it takes two to tango. With a player option he's free to test the market. We can't sign a replacement until he signs elsewhere or the player option expires. But he's in no hurry.
Pou, would George Williams + To'o cover for losing Moses?
 
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