Rumours and Stuff

[the phantom menace]

*cough* cough* yellow

You should see someone about that, maybe take a RAT test?

 

[TheCrowe]

f**k of merkin I have little birds

 

[Poupou Escobar]

With who?

*whom

Suaalii or Laurie, or otherwise invest in youth (Talagi/Sanders are already on the books plus there's merins like Weekes) and backstop it with a year or two from someone like Mbye or Brooks.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The club stuffed up by making the player option that could be exercised until end of April or May.

This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply last contract, which could've been the difference between making the grand final or not.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Zero cost to Tigers to keep trying for him, and even if Moses stays, Tigers staying in the hunt maximises the hit on Parras cap etc. Why would they pull out?

So they can commit the 2024 cap space elsewhere. Talau, Brooks and Laurie are all off contract.

 

[the phantom menace]

This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply last contract, which could've been the difference between making the grand final or not.

Pure conjecture, masquerading as fact.

Maybe try the word "maybe"?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

*whom

Suaalii or Laurie, or otherwise invest in youth (Talagi/Sanders are already on the books plus there's merins

*merkins ffs

 

[emjaycee]

Pure conjecture, masquerading as fact.

Maybe try the word "maybe"?

Pssst, it's a rumours thread... so Pou's comment might just be about a rumour that it is the player option that allowed us to keep Moses relatively cheaply.

Your constant haranguing of him actually makes you look petty, but I won't tell anyone if you don't.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pure conjecture, masquerading as fact.

Maybe try the word "maybe"?

You don't offer player options for free. What would be the point of that?

I already said "it could've been the difference". Obviously we don't know, but player options are there to keep the price down. They are worth money. Without them the player requires more cash up front.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pssst, it's a rumours thread... so Pou's comment might just be about a rumour that it is the player option that allowed us to keep Moses relatively cheaply.

You're constant haranguing of him actually makes you look petty, but I won't tell anyone if you don't.

He doesn't even read my posts, yet somehow scans them for opportunities to engage in grammatical pedantry. Crazy how everyone else seems to understand what I'm saying.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Some other absolute amateur clubs giving player options are the Storm (Grant) and Roosters (B. Smith, Suaalii).

 

[the phantom menace]

Pssst, it's a rumours thread... so Pou's comment might just be about a rumour that it is the player option that allowed us to keep Moses relatively cheaply.

Yeah... but it's not though, is it? (Refer his subsequent reply.)

 

[Tiger5150]

He doesn't even read my posts, yet somehow scans them for opportunities to engage in grammatical pedantry. Crazy how everyone else seems to understand what I'm saying.

*They're

 

[Poupou Escobar]

*They're

Not in that quoted post you deadshit. You're like bartman, desperate for a win. Only dumber.

 

[the phantom menace]

You don't offer player options for free. What would be the point of that?

I already said "it could've been the difference".

No champ, you said "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply" - that bit I bolded and replied to?

Obviously we don't know, but player options are there to keep the price down. They are worth money. Without them the player requires more cash up front.

So just conjecture then, and in a matter of a few posts no longer "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply"? Doing wonders for believing your future contributions...

 

[lingard]

He doesn't even read my posts, yet somehow scans them for opportunities to engage in grammatical pedantry. Crazy how everyone else seems to understand what I'm saying.

Well, I only pretend to understand.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No champ, you said "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply" - that bit I bolded and replied to?

Well that much is certain. If he required 'salary plus player option' to stay, then without the player option he would've required 'salary plus whatever the PO is worth'. It's simple maths.

So just conjecture then, and in a matter of a few posts no longer "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply"? Doing wonders for believing your future contributions...

The conjecture is whether the salary cap saved by the player option (instead of paying the cap value of what it was worth to the player) is what allowed us to shoehorn whatever extra player talent into the squad such that we were strong enough to make the grand final. There is no conjecture that an option is worth more than zero to the player or club in negotiations. You've seen the way it skews bargaining power at the end of the contract. It's no trivial thing to offer/demand during negotiations. At this point you'd have to convince us otherwise.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Well, I only pretend to understand.

Your mother brang you up well.

 

[the phantom menace]

Well that much is certain. If he required 'salary plus player option' to stay, then without the player option he would've required 'salary plus whatever the PO is worth'. It's simple maths.

The conjecture is whether the salary cap saved by the player option (instead of paying the cap value of what it was worth to the player) is what allowed us to shoehorn whatever extra player talent into the squad such that we were strong enough to make the grand final. There is no conjecture that an option is worth more than zero to the player or club in negotiations. You've seen the way it skews bargaining power at the end of the contract. It's no trivial thing to offer/demand during negotiations. At this point you'd have to convince us otherwise.

So absolutely no evidence (other than theoretical arguments) to support "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply".

Again, if you don't have evidence (or a rumour, given it's the rumours thread), then maybe consider starting your posts with "maybe"?

#fakenews

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So absolutely no evidence (other than theoretical arguments) to support "This is what allowed us to keep him relatively cheaply".

What evidence would you need? A deal worth $x + PO would need to be matched by $x + $y, where $y is the value of the player option to both parties. You're asking for evidence of a fundamental reality. Given your behaviour in other threads and social media platforms, I have to be honest, I really doubt your motives here. I believe you aren't arguing in good faith.