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Poupou Escobar

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As soon as I heard Bea just wanted to treat the game as just a normal game and the players found their own way to the match I knew we were screwed. My best mate is a Panthers fan he was over and saw the interview and burst out laughing. He was a little nervous and as soon as he saw that his comments were I forgot Parra were coached by a moron.
Whatever he did worked the week before in Townsville. Why change what worked? Match prep had nothing to do with it. We were just fatigued from playing in North Queensland the week before. Gould even predicted we would be. I think he’s a bit more cluey than any merkin watching the game at your place.
 

hineyrulz

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Whatever he did worked the week before in Townsville. Why change what worked? Match prep had nothing to do with it. We were just fatigued from playing in North Queensland the week before. Gould even predicted we would be. I think he’s a bit more cluey than any merkin watching the game at your place.
No one is more cluey than the merkins at my place ffs!!
 

Glenneel

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I see potential in the kid, he's been playing in a crappy system. Watched him at Penrith and he was a big stand out. He can also play wing
What we need is speed, Kariz and Kahn-Periera have it and we should be going after one of those and a good fast centre is the other. Leave Gutho where he is, his strength is creating and particularly stopping tries. Also 2 decent middle forwards to sit on the bench. We should have a couple of million excess in the cap for next year to buy/promote players if there are any good.
And Hodgo, sorry he is too slow and a liability in D (along with 12 other players atm), not sure what happened to his football nous but he lost that with his knee injury apparently. Another decent hooker wouldn't go astray. What about that pommy wanting to come here?
 
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eels_fan

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Have zero issue with BA not watching the GF again. What benefit do we get out of it? What he needs to review is our processes and plan in GF week if we are to get there again. The actual gameplan and our execution on the day means absolutely nothing now, and it would be a waste of time to review it.
We know he is a massive reviewer of games during the season, he’s been quoted as have players of him staying up after games watching it back in full 3-4 times before going to bed.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Now look at the Warriors. They have a decent team and imo would beat us imo. Their coach in 1 preseason has taken a beaten and broken team and completely changed them. He took coal and turned most into diamonds, particularly Johnson who has turned back the years.

Compare them with us. We need a fresh perspective and BA is not the answer. In his 9 years we have 6 years in finals, 2 years past first game, 1 grand final and 1 wooden spoon. Not that great a record to keep persisting with a coach with a good team that is going nowhere.
Yeah just like the Cowboys with their gun new coach. We need to get Payten.
 

84 Baby

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Have zero issue with BA not watching the GF again. What benefit do we get out of it? What he needs to review is our processes and plan in GF week if we are to get there again. The actual gameplan and our execution on the day means absolutely nothing now, and it would be a waste of time to review it.
We know he is a massive reviewer of games during the season, he’s been quoted as have players of him staying up after games watching it back in full 3-4 times before going to bed.
People just bagging him for any old reason. Really the only game since the GF where watching may have been a factor is the Penrith game. Which we won.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Not many coaches get there 1st GF preparation right. Its a tricky week to get right.

You can go away from what gets you there in the first place and things go pear shape.

Players like routine.

You can overbear the players by putting too much pressure on them.

There is no exact science.

Brian Smith clearly never handled it and he had 4 cracks. While Bennett has mastered it by keeping it simple.

Hasler, Bellamy, Cleary all multiple premiership winning coaches lost there 1st GF.

Not going together as a team on a bus to a GF was clearly a bad call.
Right, but if we did it and lose then that would’ve been a bad call instead.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I thought Pou was saying they all drove to Townsville separately. No wonder they were tired for GF
My point was Arthur knows how to prepare for games. Whether they fly to Townsville to play a sudden death match against the Cowboys, or drive to Homebush to play a sudden death match against the Raiders. Whether we win or lose has nothing to do with how we got to the game.
 

84 Baby

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My point was Arthur knows how to prepare for games. Whether they fly to Townsville to play a sudden death match against the Cowboys, or drive to Homebush to play a sudden death match against the Raiders. Whether we win or lose has nothing to do with how we got to the game.
It can but it’s a single spinning plate out of a whole bunch of spinning plates. I’ve been in a lot of grand finals at different levels and I agree with “it’s still the same game” approach. The difference is in personal mental preparation which is a massive flip of coin in how it’ll affect any one player, let alone a whole team.
I had a coach when we got into a grand final told us to get there an hour earlier than usual for pregame warmup and did like meditation stuff - we got pumped. The next year with a mostly different team, same prep - we won.
I also played a GF where I had normal prep, ended up playing possibly my best game ever, when the other team started to come back I played even better - yet we still lost. Then a few years later, did the same prep and when the game got tight, I went to absolute water on both sides of the ball - lost that too.

My point besides humble brags is GF preparation is all in your head and the players need to be adaptable with applying a good preparation or countering a bad preparation.
 

eels_fan

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Definitely a mental game.

that week as a player (or coach) for the first time, especially at a club like Parra, would just be mental anguish. Every friend or relative comes out of the woodwork and wants to chat to you, wish you well, get tickets off you. The media would be calling and texting constantly. The pressure from the general public and fans. You can’t prepare for that, and only from experiencing it can you learn how to handle it.
 

King-Gutho94

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Have zero issue with BA not watching the GF again. What benefit do we get out of it? What he needs to review is our processes and plan in GF week if we are to get there again. The actual gameplan and our execution on the day means absolutely nothing now, and it would be a waste of time to review it.
We know he is a massive reviewer of games during the season, he’s been quoted as have players of him staying up after games watching it back in full 3-4 times before going to bed.
Agree.

We will be better prepared if we can make the GF again with this core group of players.

Just the added extras of media and appearances required in the week the players will be more prepared.
 
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Matty Bhoy

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I think it’s important to remember Hodgo has played fk all footy for quite some time. Coming back off a serious knee op, he’s going to improve with more games under his belt. I’m not prepared to write him off yet. It helps that Hands looks a player.
 

JokerEel

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I think it’s important to remember Hodgo has played fk all footy for quite some time. Coming back off a serious knee op, he’s going to improve with more games under his belt. I’m not prepared to write him off yet. It helps that Hands looks a player.

This is true, though he still should not be playing more than 25 minutes in the first half.

Or Even start Hands then bring Hodgo on when players are tiring.
 
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