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Bazal

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All indigenous forwards that played in 2016

Broncos: Thaiday, Waddell
Bulldogs: Garvey, Elliott
Titans: James, Peats, Bird
Cowboys: Thompson,
Sharks: Fifita, Fifita, Graham,
Dragons: Thompson
Panthers: Latu, Grevsmuhl
Souths: Turner
Roosters: Friend

These are purely off the top of my head. That's quite a significant number considering the Indigenous population makes up only 2.4% of the total population. Your argument is flawed and you've resorted to petty name calling to try and distract from the fact you're talking out of your ass.

He just about always talks out of his arse, but using obesity statistics to somehow prove the natural average genetic build of any population is pretty much talking out your arse just as badly.

Also hookers don't count. They aren't forwards, they're defective halfbacks :p
 

Happy MEel

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He just about always talks out of his arse, but using obesity statistics to somehow prove the natural average genetic build of any population is pretty much talking out your arse just as badly.

Also hookers don't count. They aren't forwards, they're defective halfbacks :p
I didn't bring genetics into the argument, Baz. Ram was trying to make a point that Aboriginal people generally don't make it as forwards because they were generally "slight" and "wiry". My point stands that the majority of the indigenous populations these days (genetics aside) are not "slight". This is not having a go at indigenous Australians as the same goes for much of the wider Australian population.

...and hookers count as forwards as much as halfbacks count as backs.
 
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Tbh the whole discussion got sidetracked with the racist rubbish. It was kicked off by someone saying the equivalent of "African men are better than most at sprinting". Well, yeah, genes are real, and they make people different. Admitting that won't open Pandora's box.
 

Bazal

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I didn't bring genetics into the argument. Ram was trying to make a point that Aboriginal people generally don't make it as forwards because they were generally "slight" and "wiry". My point stands that the majority of the indigenous populations these days (genetics aside) are not "slight". This is not having a go at indigenous Australians as the same goes for much of the wider Australian population.

...and hookers count as forwards as much as halfbacks count as backs.

So arguing that the majority are fat is somehow better? And why would you think obesity figures apply to people who are working towards being professional athletes? Given that the argument was the body type of the average indigenous athlete, what does the obesity of the wider population have to do with that? Surely they are far less likely to factor in the obesity statistics, therefore nullifying the point?

Lets just accept is was a poorly thought out piece of evidence.

And also accept that hookers are just failed halves....
 
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I didn't bring genetics into the argument, Baz. Ram was trying to make a point that Aboriginal people generally don't make it as forwards because they were generally "slight" and "wiry". My point stands that the majority of the indigenous populations these days (genetics aside) are not "slight". This is not having a go at indigenous Australians as the same goes for much of the wider Australian population.

...and hookers count as forwards as much as halfbacks count as backs.
How can you say "genetics aside"? The discussion is about what genes lead to what body shape.
 

Bazal

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Tbh the whole discussion got sidetracked with the racist rubbish. It was kicked off by someone saying the equivalent of "African men are better than most at sprinting". Well, yeah, genes are real, and they make people different. Admitting that won't open Pandora's box.

100% correct. We are all the same species, but there are differences that make races unique. That shit should be celebrated, not thought of as offensive. How can genetics be offensive? It's just the way someone is....

Honestly white people in general are the ultimate genetic mongrels and I think that sometimes people get offended at the idea that someone is genetically predisposed to be better at something than they are. ESPECIALLY middle aged white folks who have been putting other races down a lot of their lives (knowingly or unknowingly)
 

Poupou Escobar

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The problem with your assertion that that most Australian Aboriginal people are slight or wiry is that it is false.

Many Australian Aboriginal people are thick set and yet still incredibly quick and agile.
Making broad sweeping generalisations that stereotype people on the basis of race is racism. It's not as blatantly nasty as calling people names but it continues to perpetuate the myth that one group of people are of less value because of their race, especially a group that has been beaten down by a dominant culture for centuries.
What if it's positive generalisations like Fijians are friendly, aborigines are athletic, or Chinamen are smart?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Easy for you cos you probably never have or never will face racial discrimination. So of course it does not bother you.
He lives in a multicultural country full of ethnic enclaves. It's a big call to say he probably never has or will experience racial discrimination. People put shit on whitey all the time. The term 'bogan' is never used about anyone of any other colour.
 

Poupou Escobar

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OK I wind back what I said. Sorry.

The safety net or safe place is required for minorities who don't have a voice or the means to defend themselves.
But aren't minorities part of the 99% you lefties were shouting at Wall Street a couple of years ago? Everyone is part of a minority if you single them out, regardless of gender or race.
 

Poupou Escobar

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No. But there is a difference between being a racist and saying racist things. That distinction is often missed. Try telling an Aboriginal person that saying that they are only half Aboriginal is 'just banter' and see how that goes down.
If they're half white but only consider themselves indigenous it says a bit about the true 'value' and power of being white.
 

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