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crocodile said:
I thought Tilley was a kerosene lantern.

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Gronk

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Noise said:
Lol You think he’s going to jail for this?
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If you freeze the play there; the NRL stand down rule is only for charges that have serious custodial sentences. What you have done is highlighted the ridiculousness of this situation.

I am no criminal lawyer so franky know f**k all, but from the minimal looks under the hood from recent precedents I could find, custodial sentences involve hands in panties and creepy merkins taking advantage of drunk girls who are alseep. In the most recent of those I could find, a girl woke to a creepy merkin having a pull and his hands were everywhere and he got 12 months

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That doesn’t mean that Dylan won’t be convicted and have a criminal record of an offence against women, but a custodial sentence seems to be unlikely.

His biggest hurdle will be the time that it takes to resolve this case and then, if convicted, how the NRL deal with him.
 
Noise

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Gronk said:
If you freeze the play there; the NRL stand down rule is only for charges that have serious custodial sentences. What you have done is highlighted the ridiculousness of this situation.

I am no criminal lawyer so franky know f**k all, but from the minimal looks under the hood from recent precedents I could find, custodial sentences involve hands in panties and creepy merkins taking advantage of drunk girls who are alseep. In the most recent of those I could find, a girl woke to a creepy merkin having a pull and his hands were everywhere and he got 12 months

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That doesn’t mean that Dylan won’t be convicted and have a criminal record of an offence against women, but a custodial sentence seems to be unlikely.

His biggest hurdle will be the time that it takes to resolve this case and then, if convicted, how the NRL deal with him.
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Agree. Which is why someone saying he’ll never play for us again is ridiculous
 
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Noise said:
Lol You think he’s going to jail for this?
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No.

However from what I was told, which is not reliable, does not sound great.

I can only judge on what the media says and what I have been told. Based off that i don't think we will see him run out for Parra again in 2023.
 
Gronk

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Noise said:
Agree. Which is why someone saying he’ll never play for us again is ridiculous
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But also, how the no fault stand down rule is being applied to a player who probably won’t go to jail. <sigh> so it seems that the NRL can stand Dylan down for as long as they like to protect their brand.

Originally when it was introduced, they said ..

Beattie said the criminal offences that apply to this rule are serious offences with a maximum jail term of 11 years or more.

"This is not about being popular, this is about sending a clear message the game does not tolerate violence, against women or children. Our job is to rebuild the reputation and protect the game. That reputation has been damaged by recent events. This is about a standard that's expected."

Greenberg said he would use this policy sparingly. LINK

Now we’re in 2023 and the CEO has applied his discretion, seemingly to appease the media, whereby the likelihood of an actual jail sentence is zero. Is it policy on the run ? Well no, De Belin challenged it in the Federal Court remember LINK.

In this case ^^ the court held in favour of the NRL and said that whilst it was a restraint of trade per se, it was necessary.

The decision of Perry J concluded that, although the rule constituted a restraint of trade, the restraint was justified because it was reasonably necessary to protect the legitimate interests of the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) and the NRL.

So here is the updated stand down rule as it was filed with the federal court.

Rule 22A (New Rule) was introduced into the NRL Rules on 11 March 2019 by the ARLC and NRL and provides that:

  • players charged with a criminal offence carrying a penalty of at least 11 years will be automatically stood down from playing in the NRL competition;
  • the suspension will not require any finding of fault by the player and there is no right of appeal;
  • players are still able to train with their team and are entitled to be paid their full remuneration under their contracts; and
  • the NRL’s CEO can use his discretion to stand down players charged with less serious criminal offences, particularly where the offence involves women and children.
 
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Cloeel said:
No.

However from what I was told, which is not reliable, does not sound great.

I can only judge on what the media says and what I have been told. Based off that i don't think we will see him run out for Parra again in 2023.
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Then it would seem there is a chasm between the prosecutions version of events and Drown's defence. You're hearing it's far more serious than what we know so far, while his lawyer asserts the CCTV footage does not support the allegations at all... I get there's a certain amount of lip service and bravado expected from his lawyer but it seems someone is way off in their version of events.
 
The Predictor

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Gronk said:
But also, how the no fault stand down rule is being applied to a player who probably won’t go to jail. <sigh> so it seems that the NRL can stand Dylan down for as long as they like to protect their brand.

Originally when it was introduced, they said ..

Beattie said the criminal offences that apply to this rule are serious offences with a maximum jail term of 11 years or more.

"This is not about being popular, this is about sending a clear message the game does not tolerate violence, against women or children. Our job is to rebuild the reputation and protect the game. That reputation has been damaged by recent events. This is about a standard that's expected."

Greenberg said he would use this policy sparingly. LINK

Now we’re in 2023 and the CEO has applied his discretion, seemingly to appease the media, whereby the likelihood of an actual jail sentence is zero. Is it policy on the run ? Well no, De Belin challenged it in the Federal Court remember LINK.

In this case ^^ the court held in favour of the NRL and said that whilst it was a restraint of trade per se, it was necessary.

The decision of Perry J concluded that, although the rule constituted a restraint of trade, the restraint was justified because it was reasonably necessary to protect the legitimate interests of the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) and the NRL.

So here is the updated stand down rule as it was filed with the federal court.

Rule 22A (New Rule) was introduced into the NRL Rules on 11 March 2019 by the ARLC and NRL and provides that:

  • players charged with a criminal offence carrying a penalty of at least 11 years will be automatically stood down from playing in the NRL competition;
  • the suspension will not require any finding of fault by the player and there is no right of appeal;
  • players are still able to train with their team and are entitled to be paid their full remuneration under their contracts; and
  • the NRL’s CEO can use his discretion to stand down players charged with less serious criminal offences, particularly where the offence involves women and children.
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It doesn’t matter this is all Dyl, this guy obviously thinks with his cock and not his brain, if he wasn’t such a randy toad, we wouldn’t be having this conversation, I don’t blame the NRL for this
 
crocodile

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Incorrect said:
Then it would seem there is a chasm between the prosecutions version of events and Drown's defence. You're hearing it's far more serious than what we know so far, while his lawyer asserts the CCTV footage does not support the allegations at all... I get there's a certain amount of lip service and bravado expected from his lawyer but it seems someone is way off in their version of events.
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My recollection of his lawyer's media statement was that the CCTV footage didn't support five touchings. Said nothing about four or less. Pedantic, but after all it was a lawyer spruiking his view. In any case, it isn't the touching he's in trouble for. Consent is the issue. Maybe the CCTV shows her thumping him in the snot box after grabbing a melon. Maybe not. We simply don't know just yet.
 
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crocodile said:
My recollection of his lawyer's media statement was that the CCTV footage didn't support five touchings. Said nothing about four or less. Pedantic, but after all it was a lawyer spruiking his view. In any case, it isn't the touching he's in trouble for. Consent is the issue. Maybe the CCTV shows her thumping him in the snot box after grabbing a melon. Maybe not. We simply don't know just yet.
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Gave a Like for this post for use of the term "snot box"... An under utilised term IMO
 
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