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eels_fan

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He has played all 16 games this season in a rampant Parramatta side but back-rower Bryce Cartwright is yet to be offered a new deal.
Cartwright, 28, comes off contract after this season and while the Eels have expressed a strong desire to retain their edge forward, no offer has been lodged.

Several NRL clubs are aware of the situation and have made inquiries about the former NSW State of Origin development player.

St George Illawarra could be an option for Cartwright, along with Canberra and expansion side the Dolphins.

There has also been considerable interest from a prominent Super League club but Cartwright is keen to remain in the NRL.

Parramatta coach Brad Arthur is a massive fan of Cartwright, who feels his game has improved this season under Eels assistant coach Trent Barrett.

Cartwright is one of only a few first-graders, along with Waqa Blake and Wiremu Greig, to remain unsigned beyond this season.

Cartwright has been a constant performer in a Parramatta side ravaged at times this year through injury, suspension and representative duty. Arthur wants to retain Cartwright.

Parramatta are juggling salary cap issues but announced last week the re-signing of Bailey Simonsson, Josh Hodgson, Daejarn Asi and Matt Doorey.


The Eels also signed two forwards mid-season – Joe Ofahengaue from Wests Tigers and Andrew Davey from Canterbury.

 
Gronk

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eels_fan said:
He has played all 16 games this season in a rampant Parramatta side but back-rower Bryce Cartwright is yet to be offered a new deal.
Cartwright, 28, comes off contract after this season and while the Eels have expressed a strong desire to retain their edge forward, no offer has been lodged.

Several NRL clubs are aware of the situation and have made inquiries about the former NSW State of Origin development player.

St George Illawarra could be an option for Cartwright, along with Canberra and expansion side the Dolphins.

There has also been considerable interest from a prominent Super League club but Cartwright is keen to remain in the NRL.

Parramatta coach Brad Arthur is a massive fan of Cartwright, who feels his game has improved this season under Eels assistant coach Trent Barrett.

Cartwright is one of only a few first-graders, along with Waqa Blake and Wiremu Greig, to remain unsigned beyond this season.

Cartwright has been a constant performer in a Parramatta side ravaged at times this year through injury, suspension and representative duty. Arthur wants to retain Cartwright.

Parramatta are juggling salary cap issues but announced last week the re-signing of Bailey Simonsson, Josh Hodgson, Daejarn Asi and Matt Doorey.


The Eels also signed two forwards mid-season – Joe Ofahengaue from Wests Tigers and Andrew Davey from Canterbury.

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If you listen to the TCT pod released this morning, 60's is calling BS. He said that the club have been all over it for a while now with Carty and his Mgr. Click bait.
 
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Gronk said:
If you listen to the TCT pod released this morning, 60's is calling BS. He said that the club have been all over it for a while now with Carty and his Mgr. Click bait.
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Maybe I’m overthinking things but Carty only really seems like he’d be happy in western Sydney. It’s where he belongs. He seemed like a fish out of water at the Titans so I’d lean towards him re-signing with us than not.
 
TheRam

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84 Baby said:
“Just write a new rule” puts you at the whims of whatever is getting the most attention. Which means in order for any one person (Hadley) to get what they want (demeaning the Eels board) they can put attention on a topic that pushes their agenda (Dylan Brown stand down). Any haphazard new rule isn’t necessarily corruptive based, it even can be a just application, but allowing that power allows the opportunity for it.
Your “detail” seems to be anyone with a contract over $400k/year can’t change clubs unless it’s to a bottom 4 club. Which if it’s that arbitrary I suppose feasibly it’s fine, might create a bit of an oddity with a heap of players on $399,999.99. But then when’s the cutoff? Example 3 weeks in, the previous years runners up are down some troops, have 3 close losses and are stuck at 16th. Should they have been able to pick up Hunt from the high flying 9th placed Dragons? Now the positions are turned should we give him back?
And then we get to the exceptions to the rule. Walsh is out for 3 weeks now. So it’s fine if Broncos sign Hunt? Should Souths sign him given Mitchell is out for an extended period?

As I said I agree with you in principle but you simply can not take any criticism to your ideas even when they’re “simple fixes”. Pretty sure people laughed at BA in the past when he said problems the team were having were simple fixes. Sure hope you weren’t one of them.

Anyway I don’t think it’s a simple fix but I do agree it’s necessary. The problem as I see it is the players have too much of the wrong power, or more they are utilising the only power they do have out of disagreement with not having the actual power they want. The problem is that disagreement affects an almost innocent 3rd party in the club rather than the NRL. The clubs are hit with lack of compensation over it. The power players should have is in determining how the game is operated at their level e.g. length of season, injury management, representation, etc. with the trade off being ceding more control of their contract. This allows clubs to at least attempt to be compensated.

The issue then transfers to tradeable pieces of which there isn’t really any besides players, so likely the NRL would have to give up a larger slice of revenue to compensate players, mostly lower level/younger ones.

My framework certainly isn’t easy or foolproof but at least it works against fostering the same environment where we having to “write new rules” every few years to plug loophole after loophole.
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My Lord, what a load of rambling nonsense that goes right off topic and then tries to come back on topic, but fails miserably, by misrepresentation and a weak and ridiculous consequence argument of the supposed flaws in my solution.

Your second half in regards to where the power lies, has some merit but is vague and general so has no substance in this discussion.

I thought you were one of the smarter ones on here, but after that garbage dressed up as an example of cohesive and rational thought I think I was completely mistaken.

I'm bored with this now. I won't bother responding any further. All I was worried about was if a player as good as Hunt is jumping ship and joining one of the super powers of the NRL for a cameo and unfairly blowing our chances of a premiership. That threat now seems over, so we move on. So should you.
 
TheRam

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Gronk said:
If you listen to the TCT pod released this morning, 60's is calling BS. He said that the club have been all over it for a while now with Carty and his Mgr. Click bait.
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Apparently though, twice both parties have been in discussion and negotiation and twice Parra haven't presented an actual offer or contract and therefore both Cartwright and his management team are understandably getting nervous and antsy. Sounds like MON is at it again with his slow-mo manoeuvres. Lets hope it doesn't cost us a couple of decent players again as I'm sure the same thing is happening with Emu, since it was reported weeks ago that those negotiations were well underway and he was close to signing, but nothing has happened since.
 
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TheRam said:
Apparently though, twice both parties have been in discussion and negotiation and twice Parra haven't presented an actual offer or contract and therefore both Cartwright and his management team are understandably getting nervous and antsy.
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You'll need a source for that mate.... Even if you can just point to a tweet or podcast run by a fanboy who has been proven way off the mark with other opinions and insights in the past, that'll be good enough...
 
84 Baby

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TheRam said:
My Lord, what a load of rambling nonsense that goes right off topic and then tries to come back on topic, but fails miserably, by misrepresentation and a weak and ridiculous consequence argument of the supposed flaws in my solution.

Your second half in regards to where the power lies, has some merit but is vague and general so has no substance in this discussion.

I thought you were one of the smarter ones on here, but after that garbage dressed up as an example of cohesive and rational thought I think I was completely mistaken.

I'm bored with this now. I won't bother responding any further. All I was worried about was if a player as good as Hunt is jumping ship and joining one of the super powers of the NRL for a cameo and unfairly blowing our chances of a premiership. That threat now seems over, so we move on. So should you.
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You are full of shit.
 
Gronk

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lucablight said:
Maybe I’m overthinking things but Carty only really seems like he’d be happy in western Sydney. It’s where he belongs. He seemed like a fish out of water at the Titans so I’d lean towards him re-signing with us than not.
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That weirdo missus was a huge distraction.

Anti-vaxxer NRL WAG incredibly compares herself to a HOLOCAUST victim after her husband was stood down by the league for refusing to get a flu shot​


www.dailymail.co.uk

Anti-vaxxer WAG shares a post comparing herself to Holocaust victims

Shanelle Cartwright, the wife of Gold Coast Titans forward Bryce Cartwright, posted the image of the teenage Holocaust victim to her Instagram story on Friday.
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Gronk

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You'll need a source for that mate.... Even if you can just point to a tweet or podcast run by a fanboy who has been proven way off the mark with other opinions and insights in the past, that'll be good enough...
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Sauce just for you mate.

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TheRam

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Incorrect said:
You'll need a source for that mate.... Even if you can just point to a tweet or podcast run by a fanboy who has been proven way off the mark with other opinions and insights in the past, that'll be good enough...
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Heard it on the tele, that idiot bulldog dude. Sorry no link.
 
Poupou Escobar

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TheRam said:
Lets hope it doesn't cost us a couple of decent players again
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Overpaying, especially over multiple years, is a significantly worse outcome than missing out on a signing or retention. We are right to move slowly. Our fortunes compared to those of the clubs that poached our players this year is strong evidence that we are handling it well. Don’t stir the dopes up to outrage ffs. The media don’t need your help.
 
eels_fan

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lucablight said:
Maybe I’m overthinking things but Carty only really seems like he’d be happy in western Sydney. It’s where he belongs. He seemed like a fish out of water at the Titans so I’d lean towards him re-signing with us than not.
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His kids on the GC however so that will always be a pulling power if a Qld team is interested
 
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