What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Rumours and Stuff

Frank Burge

Juniors
Messages
272
I don’t have a problem with him being offered a share at market value , that he purchases with his own money or it goes on the cap, the only issue in the article if it’s true is that the sponsor guarantees his return and money, that isn’t investing as there is no risk , I can’t see NRL saying yes to that.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,125
The delicious Chinese is the knock out punch.
succulent-chinese-meal-site.jpg
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,125
Some more than others.......if you watch the game instead of stats you would know
f**k yeah. Losing more mobility but still managing to make more tackles than every other merkin. Maybe he loses more mobility because he's more fatigued because he does more work ffs
 

Tiger5150

Bench
Messages
3,759
f**k yeah. Losing more mobility but still managing to make more tackles than every other merkin. Maybe he loses more mobility because he's more fatigued because he does more work ffs

Maybe he does, but just keep an eye out how many line breaks this year happen next to Joffa and then think of me......ffs.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,125
Maybe he does, but just keep an eye out how many line breaks this year happen next to Joffa and then think of me......ffs.
Any time a middle defender is isolated the problem isn’t him. I thought you said you watch the game. An isolated middle defender is the fault of his team mates. If he’s making (or missing) one-on-one tackles it’s because his mates were standing and watching. Don’t you know anything?
 
Messages
11,701
Any time a middle defender is isolated the problem isn’t him.
That's just lowest common denominator attempted trolling tbh imo.

You can't have a situation where a defender in a certain part of the field is magically never individually accountable for their defensive effort to detonate situations where they might find themselves "isolated" - especially in the f**king middle!
 

Tiger5150

Bench
Messages
3,759
Any time a middle defender is isolated the problem isn’t him. I thought you said you watch the game. An isolated middle defender is the fault of his team mates. If he’s making (or missing) one-on-one tackles it’s because his mates were standing and watching. Don’t you know anything?

More than you apparently. If a defender is isolated because his team mates are sliding or pushing and he isnt, it his fault and he is letting his team mates down.

I also know, from years of watching (and playing) that if its always the same guy, over and over....its not his team mates.

No need to pull out a spreadsheet......just watch over a period of time. its happening already, like it did at the Tigers and Brisbane before that.
 
Messages
11,701
The thing about these tackle stats, or tackle per minute stats, is that they aren't correlated with effectiveness - and don't represent defensive strength.

They might just be a third man in flop or hold rather than an effective indiividual halt to opposition runner's momentum - but to suit Pou's agenda of the day, the tackle per minute stat is being presented as meaning more than a viewing of the game would reveal it to be.
 

Tiger5150

Bench
Messages
3,759
The thing about these tackle stats, or tackle per minute stats, is that they aren't correlated with effectiveness - and don't represent defensive strength.

They might just be a third man in flop or hold rather than an effective indiividual halt to opposition runner's momentum - but to suit Pou's agenda of the day, the tackle per minute stat is being presented as meaning more than a viewing of the game would reveal it to be.

To take it back to the topic, being Joffa,....Joffa doesnt stack up numbers with flops, he genuinely is very hard working defender and will make a LOT of solid, safe, effective tackles, one on one or in numbers, head on. Pous point is sound regarding Joffa for most of the game, defence is his strength and he'll tally up decent numbers, even per minute.

But when he is tired and the opposition gets the defensive line moving laterally, look to oppositions hitting 1m inside him. Often it wont even hit Pou's stat sheet as a missed tackle because he wont get a hand on them.

Like at 2:40 here

(Im aware it wasnt "his" man but he should have been pushing across....this is what you will get all year)
 
Last edited:
Messages
11,701
But when he is tired and the opposition gets the defensive line moving laterally, look to oppositions hitting 1m inside him. Often it wont even hit Pou's stat sheet as a missed tackle because he wont get a hand on them.

Like at 2:40 here

(Im aware it wasnt "his" man but he should have been pushing across....this is what you will get all year)
Yep, that bit is exactly my point... not having a go at Joffa, but those are the instances that will be papered over by stats, and may not even count as a miss - but observed effort in key moments (rather than agreggated stats) comes into it, for Joffa and any other middle forwards having a lazy spell.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,125
That's just lowest common denominator attempted trolling tbh imo.

You can't have a situation where a defender in a certain part of the field is magically never individually accountable for their defensive effort to detonate situations where they might find themselves "isolated" - especially in the f**king middle!
The middle is literally the last place any defender should be isolated.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,125
More than you apparently. If a defender is isolated because his team mates are sliding or pushing and he isnt, it his fault and he is letting his team mates down.

I also know, from years of watching (and playing) that if its always the same guy, over and over....its not his team mates.

No need to pull out a spreadsheet......just watch over a period of time. its happening already, like it did at the Tigers and Brisbane before that.
lol wtf

If he is the only one near the f**king ball then he isn't the one not making the effort ffs. Defensive effort means you move to the ball not away from it. Standing still is better than moving away from the merkin with the ball! Chase the collision you f**ken idiot!
 

Latest posts

Top