Rumours and Stuff

[Enamoured Eel]

I wouldn't be against the spine re-vamp..

I would! I do not understand the obsession with moving Dylan to the back. He is one of the best, if not the best defensive half in the game.

Most of Guthos best attributes are suited to fullback also. He isn’t going to break tackles or often beat the opposing centre one-on-one like Staggs, Manu et al.

 

[yy_cheng]

I would! I do not understand the obsession with moving Dylan to the back. He is one of the best, if not the best defensive half in the game.

Most of Guthos best attributes are suited to fullback also. He isn’t going to break tackles or often beat the opposing centre one-on-one like Staggs, Manu et al.

I don't disagree with your comments on Gutho.

Though, i would love to see dyl have a full pre season at fb, and see what he can do with the extra space. He could be reece like.

Guth at centre i dont really like. 6 for me is better.

However, at centre, at least he'll know how to use his winger which our centres don't really do. Ben smith and Grothe were a good combo as Ben knew he had to get the ball to Grothe

 

[Enamoured Eel]

Is this the 2024 Parramatta Jersey ?
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This may be an unpopular opinion but I would prefer the reverse of this with gold being the primary colour of our kit moving forward. There are five other teams, three of which use a shade of blue as their main colour. Aside from the Titans, no other team uses yellow or gold.

 

[TheRam]

Too young for 1998.

2001 hurt but I was 7 years old.

I remember the train back to seven hills after the game i just thought we would make the GF every year we were so dominant that season we were unstoppable and just keep it going in 2002.

I didn't realise back then how hard it was to win a GF and as a parra fan I hadn't really endured any hardship we were still a good side from 99-01 making finals every year.

I suppose when we eventually win one it will make it all the sweeter.

Nah, had to work way to hard for it and now it is something that I feel has been paid for a thousand times over. It's like something that has been stolen and if we ever win it again we have been made to beg and pay 100 times its actual price to get it back on a short term loan for a few months.

You can't get back the years of sh*t that have been dished up by this club and as every year keeps mounting and old fans keep dying, it just gets worse and for them, a debt never paid.

Sorry I'm 60 now, the debt can never be paid. I have been watching and heat broken way to long and often to feel the ledger can ever be repaid in kind(joy). There just isn't enough years or time left in me for that ever to happen. We don't even have players that I love watching like I used to, other then Gutho, and he too has pissed off many with his re-signing tactics.

They suck and they will always suck in my world. I can't see them turning that around and becoming the Panthers anytime soon, can anyone?

The best anyone can hope for is us jagging a premiership by some miracle while Moses is still in the squad and that will be it for a couple of decades at least. With the comp going to 20 in the near future it will make it even more difficult for a team, especially one like ours that doesn't prioritize winning the GF as the number one goal, to ever be a regular winner.

Mosses or bust and from what I see it seems like bust to be honest. We haven't made anywhere near the right moves to shore up our defense and strengthen our running game out wide. Next year seams like a semi final year as long as injuries are kinder, but definitely no title unless a Bradbury is on the cards.

Even the Broncos with probably be a little weaker from a player point of view since they are losing Flegler and Herbie. So that leave the Panthers again as the team to beat. The worse thing about that for me is that the Panthers especially now(2023 Panthers) are not a great roaster team, but for their 7 and the way they are coached. Hardly an unbeatable team. It's just that they have had a fairly good dream run injury wise and are a very young squad that has years in their favour. Add to that that they played the Rabbits in the GF without the lump Latrell and then they had the pleasure of running into us for their second, they were basically given those titles.

But they have been the most consistent team over that period, so they do deserve their good fortune. It's just that there is no team around that can match them on consistency and at the moment that is their strength and that the rules and refereeing allow them to play their most important player in a dinner suit. Lets hope the Broncos can somehow upset the chinny one and by doing so, may actually break the easiest threepeat we will ever witness.

 

[Twizzle]

It doesn't have to be a better player

so you want to weaken the team by moving Guth from fullback ?

still doesn't make any snese to me, why not just move Dylbo to centre and leave Guth is his best position ?

Instead of moving three players around it would make more sense to just move one

 

[hineyrulz]

We will never get full value out of Dyl while Moses is here, he’s too passive and just goes with the flow. He showed against the Riff what he is capable as the main man.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Round 1 2002 when we won 66-6 would have only reinforced this belief... I think plenty thought it was a fait accompli we'd win it that year after that... that was the best moment of season 2002 unfortunately....

If you want to give the GF a miss you could always watch this instead tomorrow night haha

 

[King-Gutho94]

There were 2 games from memory in 2002 which our season went to shit and both were against Newcastle.

Lyon broke his leg and missed the rest of the season and Vaealiki got a 8 week ban for elbowing Joey Johns which caused a big stink with Tahu on the sideline.

Then there was the other game in Newcastle where we were on track to get our season rolling again after a few losses with a hard fought win up there and Billy Harrigan decided to murder us.

 

[IFR33K]

We wont be signing any hookers.

can’t block the path for ma can we?

 

[JokerEel]

I would! I do not understand the obsession with moving Dylan to the back. He is one of the best, if not the best defensive half in the game.

Most of Guthos best attributes are suited to fullback also. He isn’t going to break tackles or often beat the opposing centre one-on-one like Staggs, Manu et al.

Brown doesn't get much involved enough at six. He is a game breaker I don't care if he defends in the line if that's what we need and Gutho at fullback.

Gutho as much as I like him is not a game breaker at fullback anymore his legs are starting to slow him down.

I dont get the obsession with Browns defence people only notice it when he is saving tries by running down breaks which he also could do at fullback.....

 

[T-Boon]

He couldn't tackle and his run game was like watching a turtle.
Yes he come on with a bang his first year. Then sides started targeting him in defense. And when he had the ball they knew he was basically a one/ two trick pony. They held off instead of rushing up so it killed the short kick and cut out pass.
I honestly don't think he would of kicked on. And certainly wouldn't of cut it in the current game where players are bigger and stronger and better defenders across the park.
I think he was always going to get flushed out of the game tbh.

What makes Cleary,Moses,Brown,Munster,DCE,Hunt,Luai etc all special is firstly they can defend very well. Perhaps Hunt isn't greatest. But they also can run as well. All have very good run games. Borderline excellent,None have weaknesses at all.
None have a cut out pass like Tim Smith but Ash Taylor I saw as very similar. Also flushed out.

yep. The game wants all-rounders at the skill positions - which is sad.
I'd rather the kids with the sickest skills in regards the skills that pay the bills. I'd rather the skill position players not have to defend at all but its gone the other way where they are more like second rowers.

 

[Noise]

yep. The game wants all-rounders at the skill positions - which is sad.
I'd rather the kids with the sickest skills in regards the skills that pay the bills. I'd rather the skill position players not have to defend at all but its gone the other way where they are more like second rowers.

Where would you put these skilled players when the opposition has the ball?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Brown doesn't get much involved enough at six. He is a game breaker I don't care if he defends in the line if that's what we need and Gutho at fullback.

Gutho as much as I like him is not a game breaker at fullback anymore his legs are starting to slow him down.

I dont get the obsession with Browns defence people only notice it when he is saving tries by running down breaks which he also could do at fullback.....

Your criticism is that Brown doesn't get involved enough and you want to move him to fullback where they in general have less touches than halves? Anecdotally I'd say the only fullbacks that touch the ball more than at least one half would be Tedesco, Trbojevic and maybe Edwards. Edwards is because he'll often take 2 ruck runs per set rather than in attacking shapes

 

[Jake the snake]

We will never get full value out of Dyl while Moses is here, he’s too passive and just goes with the flow. He showed against the Riff what he is capable as the main man.

I’d like to see him at Fullback. It will force him to be involved. If he can handle the highball and get trained up for that position he could be dynamic.

 

[T-Boon]

Does anyone know if a touch footy ball is different to a steeden RL ball?
If so are they designed to be passed better/easier? It just seems like touch players throw a much slicker pass than NRL/RL players,

 

[T-Boon]

Where would you put these skilled players when the opposition has the ball?

I'd have a 20 second stoppage after each zero tackle/change of possession and sub them out.

 

[IFR33K]

I would! I do not understand the obsession with moving Dylan to the back. He is one of the best, if not the best defensive half in the game.

Most of Guthos best attributes are suited to fullback also. He isn’t going to break tackles or often beat the opposing centre one-on-one like Staggs, Manu et al.

brown at fullback could be a hit. But can’t see any benefits in moving Gutho to the centres. He’d be a waste there and not sure he’d have a real impact with the ball.

 

[T-Boon]

Your criticism is that Brown doesn't get involved enough and you want to move him to fullback where they in general have less touches than halves? Anecdotally I'd say the only fullbacks that touch the ball more than at least one half would be Tedesco, Trbojevic and maybe Edwards. Edwards is because he'll often take 2 ruck runs per set rather than in attacking shapes

I'd build the team around Moses, Brown and an elite dummy half and to me Gutherson is expendable at his wage, age and speed. If Brown would be better at FB I'd move him there for sure.

 

[JokerEel]

Your criticism is that Brown doesn't get involved enough and you want to move him to fullback where they in general have less touches than halves? Anecdotally I'd say the only fullbacks that touch the ball more than at least one half would be Tedesco, Trbojevic and maybe Edwards. Edwards is because he'll often take 2 ruck runs per set rather than in attacking shapes

Catching and passing huge involvment

 

[Pazza]

Dylan needs to be coming onto the ball at speed at 3rd or 4th receiver. Atm he spends alot of time at 1st and 2nd, whiles it good for squaring up a defence his run game would be far more potent as the last playmaker on the shift than the first.