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yy_cheng

Coach
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Some people here think I am to negative, but I see that my feelings and sentiments have caught fire and I have many friends of late.

We will never win a premiership again while any of us here are still alive.

Sounds preposterous and outrageous? Well we will see. I'm feeling lucky and I would put one of my houses on it if I could.

Really do the future projection?

Next season is a wash...we have no backs so you can forget it right? I mean our forwards are beginning to yoyo and struggle under the weight of not having any genuine help in carries or speed to burn tight defenses game in game out.

So that leaves us with a roster that will need some real quality input for 2025. Where does that come from since our juniors are almost always over rated and we lose so many of them to our rivals anyway?

BA will eventually get the flick probably in 2026 when the hierarchy panic at our failing roster that has aged without any real young quality added to it. By 2026 Gutho will be a broken man and Moses will be in his best years as a football head, but not have the cattle around him to give him a Reynolds type of chance at the title, so will look more like a busted arse half trying to hard and or then not trying at all.

So now we are at 2027 and we have gone in and bought a new coach. Who here thinks he will be elite? I sure hell don't so then fast forward to 2030 and the cycle will start again, only this time there won't be any quality half that we can build a roster around, I don't think Brown will be that man and anyway I think if he is still quality by 2027-8 he will be looking to go to a roster that can give him a genuine shot at a title anyway, like most halves end up doing.

So we are now on the tread mill once again searching for that magic half that you can build a roster around. Do you need a magic half, no you don't, but then you also need a management team that prioritizes winning silverware and that my friends we don't have. We give plenty of lip service to it but deed wise we only offer token support and resources. The heavyweights that win the titles spend and buy big and the best there is available. When was the last time this club stopped big noting itself and actually did some major spending and buying of the best?

As long as they seem to be doing ok and we hover around the 8 most years, we will be a successful club in their eyes that eventually will have our day in the sun. But the way I see it, unless we fluke a crop of out and out superstars that no other club pick off (impossible in todays world of competitive sport) we will linger forever in the also rans or close but no cigar zone forever.

Coaches and high input resources win you trophies in the modern world of sport. These are the two things we seldom seek and instead look for bargain buys all the time. We don't like going top shelf. Therefore we make do with what's on offer from the tap and hope it keeps us happy and entertained enough to keep coming back.

Most here have been ok with that, even though most mornings after, you have have been nursing a sore and sorry bear head and even a sore and battered arse at times too.

Like I said, does anyone really see us changing our ways after all these years? I mean we would need to actually have savvy and proactive footy personnel running the football department for a start. Just to get that changed and filled with the right people will take years of firing and hiring. We haven't gotten it quite right in 37 years of multiple administrations and cleanouts. So will it ever happen? Sure if we are still standing in 100 years from now, we might just jag a title if everything aligns just right. But the way I see it, it won't be happening in the next 30-50years. We just aren't that type of club. We are a North Sydney-Newtown Jets type. We will give it our all resource wise for a few years, just long enough to get us in the zone of being contenders, but not long enough to get a real hot crack at winning the title unless we get really lucky quick.

Then we will drop off our commitment again and go the bargain hunt root again and so the cycle continues. My money is on the never to see a GF victory again in our lifetime and I think that many of you are coming to the same unfortunate and depressing conclusion too.

Sorry fellas we signed on to supporting a major lemon. I blame Pricey, the bastard was just way to good and sucked in the lot of us!
Agreed if the culture and attitude doesn't change but you never know.

The current top of our club might get thrown out like fitzy was, a jack Gibson type coach steps in and we get another crop of youngsters.

Can happen.

Another Jarryd may pop up and take the team with a new coach to a different in a totally different direction.

What we have is stale and been around too long... How did we throw out fitzy or the plumber et al? No one is afraid of the parramatta Eels coz they know how we play and our best is not week in week out

That's why I'm here.. Waiting for the change to come
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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Possibly we don't know how dumb our club is with throwing money at a backup player...

I understand there isn't any decent players available what I don't get is why the club wants to waste money and a top 30 spot on another average player..

You may as well keep Sam Loizou
When you do look at it that way, if we're replacing Loizou in the squad with Harper, and if we're paying similar money, then Harper wouldn't be the the worst signing possible. I'd say we'd be paying more though.

I guess though Cini is Loizou's replacement and Harper is Waqa's.

We really need a better wing though.
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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Agreed if the culture and attitude doesn't change but you never know.

The current top of our club might get thrown out like fitzy was, a jack Gibson type coach steps in and we get another crop of youngsters.

Can happen.

Another Jarryd may pop up and take the team with a new coach to a different in a totally different direction.

What we have is stale and been around too long... How did we throw out fitzy or the plumber et al? No one is afraid of the parramatta Eels coz they know how we play and our best is not week in week out

That's why I'm here.. Waiting for the change to come
Who is throwing these people out?

Not the fans, the members no longer get a say in who runs the club. The Parramatta NRL board is now just their own little group of people, who can only put their own little group of people on it as they see fit.
 

JokerEel

Coach
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When you do look at it that way, if we're replacing Loizou in the squad with Harper, and if we're paying similar money, then Harper wouldn't be the the worst signing possible. I'd say we'd be paying more though.

I guess though Cini is Loizou's replacement and Harper is Waqa's.

We really need a better wing though.

At least we are replacing like for like 😂
 

Avenger

Immortal
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We should have gone all out for Crichton. Thats what we should have done. BA needs to be sacked. I’m going to celebrate like we’ve won a comp when he finally leaves our club. His one dimensional tactics and vision is now a decade long and we have gone backwards.
 

JokerEel

Coach
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We should have gone all out for Crichton. Thats what we should have done. BA needs to be sacked. I’m going to celebrate like we’ve won a comp when he finally leaves our club. His one dimensional tactics and vision is now a decade long and we have gone backwards.

I would have gone after To'o as well last year we need a meter eater
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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We also have only 1 player (Gutho) in the top 50 for metres per game. That’s an abysmal stat for our outside backs. If your outside backs aren’t making metres then your middles are going to be doing it a lot tougher rucking it out.
Given we were fourth in the NRL for metres per game, it means we were good at spreading the love.
 

Eelementary

Post Whore
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57,097
Does anyone actually know who is head of recruitment? Who has the final say? Because the amount of spoon like signings of late is bordering in sabotage.

They can’t be that inept when they look at players and what they can bring to our club.

It seems that who ever is making these recruitment calls is not looking for talent but a price point to fill a roster spot.

Id rather have an up and comer taking a roster spot than a piece of crap player who has no future. (And I’m only talking about the playing ability of Harper not the man himself)


Shit show signings like this is how we turn into the Tigers, Bulldogs, Dragons.

Surely someone like Cini - who can't crack First Grade - is worth more of a shot than a guy who has played 56 games, and been abysmal in most of them?

I mean, sure, he has First Grade experience - but he's so bad.
 

Eelementary

Post Whore
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We aren’t even the little brother, we are the ugly bald step child.

It's super humbling.

They were a shambles not that long ago.

They knuckled down, made some tough calls, spent the money - and they're laughing now.

They could conceivably win the next 3 Premierships, too.

But, hey - as long as we have stability, and depth, all is OK. Who needs success?
 

lucablight

First Grade
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He isn't a great defender, to be fair.

But neither is Harper.

And at least Cini can create in attack.
He was also in the NSW cup team of the year in 2021. I’m curious to see how he’d go if he was given an opportunity. We’re crying out for backs who can make metres and he appears to be one of the best in NSW cup yet we gave Lumelume a run over him.
 

Eelementary

Post Whore
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He was also in the NSW cup team of the year in 2021. I’m curious to see how he’d go if he was given an opportunity. We’re crying out for backs who can make metres and he appears to be one of the best in NSW cup yet we gave Lumelume a run over him.

And Lumelume isn't a strong defender, either.

I really can't understand why the ranga hasn't been given a shot.
 

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