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emjaycee

Coach
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Yeah but Jimmy Sarantinos is doing such a great job why would we ever think of replacing him with someone better.

Its not the Parra way.
I am assuming that you are being sarcastic with your comment above.
Apart from the fact we haven't won a premiership since Sarantino took over in 2019, where exactly is he not doing a good (or even great) job in your opinion?

Is it in the increase in funds to support the football club (approx. 45%) that he has gotten from the PLC coffers, or the 60% increase in merchandise sales, 40% increase in memberships or 35% increase in gate takings? These are all his measures of success, as is our performance on the field.

In the 5 years he has been in charge we have gone 5th/3rd/6th/4th/10th (80% in the semis) vs the 5 years previously where we went 16th/4th/14th/12th/10th (80% out of the semis). Although the grand prize has eluded us, by anyones measure this is a vast improvement. Remember, only 3 teams have won a GF in this time and only 6 teams, including us have played in one.

I think you need to aim your ire elsewhere mate.
 

Avenger

Immortal
Messages
34,030
I am assuming that you are being sarcastic with your comment above.
Apart from the fact we haven't won a premiership since Sarantino took over in 2019, where exactly is he not doing a good (or even great) job in your opinion?

Is it in the increase in funds to support the football club (approx. 45%) that he has gotten from the PLC coffers, or the 60% increase in merchandise sales, 40% increase in memberships or 35% increase in gate takings? These are all his measures of success, as is our performance on the field.

In the 5 years he has been in charge we have gone 5th/3rd/6th/4th/10th (80% in the semis) vs the 5 years previously where we went 16th/4th/14th/12th/10th (80% out of the semis). Although the grand prize has eluded us, by anyones measure this is a vast improvement. Remember, only 3 teams have won a GF in this time and only 6 teams, including us have played in one.

I think you need to aim your ire elsewhere mate.
I think all he needs to do is lift his profile at the NRL level. Pushing for the 80’s generation to become immortals is a good start.

I don’t have a problem with him at all. I more have questions with the recruitment committee (whoever they are) however even then I don’t have all the information to even be critical because I can accept that keeping the majority of your core players costs money.
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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62,867
I am assuming that you are being sarcastic with your comment above.
Apart from the fact we haven't won a premiership since Sarantino took over in 2019, where exactly is he not doing a good (or even great) job in your opinion?

Is it in the increase in funds to support the football club (approx. 45%) that he has gotten from the PLC coffers, or the 60% increase in merchandise sales, 40% increase in memberships or 35% increase in gate takings? These are all his measures of success, as is our performance on the field.

In the 5 years he has been in charge we have gone 5th/3rd/6th/4th/10th (80% in the semis) vs the 5 years previously where we went 16th/4th/14th/12th/10th (80% out of the semis). Although the grand prize has eluded us, by anyones measure this is a vast improvement. Remember, only 3 teams have won a GF in this time and only 6 teams, including us have played in one.

I think you need to aim your ire elsewhere mate.

Penrith have win it 3 x
They are the yard stick
 

King-Gutho94

Coach
Messages
15,466
I am assuming that you are being sarcastic with your comment above.
Apart from the fact we haven't won a premiership since Sarantino took over in 2019, where exactly is he not doing a good (or even great) job in your opinion?

Is it in the increase in funds to support the football club (approx. 45%) that he has gotten from the PLC coffers, or the 60% increase in merchandise sales, 40% increase in memberships or 35% increase in gate takings? These are all his measures of success, as is our performance on the field.

In the 5 years he has been in charge we have gone 5th/3rd/6th/4th/10th (80% in the semis) vs the 5 years previously where we went 16th/4th/14th/12th/10th (80% out of the semis). Although the grand prize has eluded us, by anyones measure this is a vast improvement. Remember, only 3 teams have won a GF in this time and only 6 teams, including us have played in one.

I think you need to aim your ire elsewhere mate.
I feel he could have a greater prescence around the game by putting pressure on the NRL a bit more especially in the media to give us more leverage with certain things and dictate the narrative instead of someone else letting the narrative dictate.

We seem like a club that just rolls over the moment NRL shaft us. And happy to just go with the flow.

Blake Solly is always in the media whinging/pushing souths agenda's looking for. Now he carries on like a sook but gee Souths i reckon Souths get more favours then us.

Brian Fletcher is the same for Penrith - He is always using the media to get some sort of leverage from some angle.

The NRL is a dog-eat dog world weather we like it or not. Its a ruthless industry and you need to use the media to your advantage in some scenarios.

Can you imagine if a club like those 2 or the roosters copped a draw like we did last year to start off with about 4 teams off the bye. Throw in the Western Sydney Derby on a Thursday. They would have been screaming from the rooftops about it.

Sarantinos or someone at the club should have been blowing up deluxe even if its parra source for example to the media on how much that cost the club that night that a premium game like Parra v Penrith a GF rematch should never be on a Thursday Night it got 16k when any other timeslot like a Friday or Sunday arvo would get 28k how much did that cost the club in gate takings.

Even though the decision was made its reminding the NRL we wont cop it without a stink moving forward.

The Matto debacle should never have happened i know everyone was emotional after a GF loss but how that got signed off by the club was simply inexcusable. I don't think any other club's management would have accepted that. And why not tell the NRL we need more time then 36 hours after a GF to make a decision he had 6 months to his next match.
 

Noise

Coach
Messages
18,168
I think all he needs to do is lift his profile at the NRL level. Pushing for the 80’s generation to become immortals is a good start.

I don’t have a problem with him at all. I more have questions with the recruitment committee (whoever they are) however even then I don’t have all the information to even be critical because I can accept that keeping the majority of your core players costs money.
Three of the recruitment committee are Ben Rogers, Mark O’Neill and Brad Arthur. There are 2 more from the Board /Admin. Forget which. I’m sure someone here knows. Sarantinos one of them?
 

Twizzle

Administrator
Staff member
Messages
153,235
Three of the recruitment committee are Ben Rogers, Mark O’Neill and Brad Arthur. There are 2 more from the Board. Forget their names. I’m sure someone here knows.

who the f**k is Ben Rogers ? never heard of him

whats his back ground ?
 

Cloeel

Juniors
Messages
858
I feel he could have a greater prescence around the game by putting pressure on the NRL a bit more especially in the media to give us more leverage with certain things and dictate the narrative instead of someone else letting the narrative dictate.

We seem like a club that just rolls over the moment NRL shaft us. And happy to just go with the flow.

Blake Solly is always in the media whinging/pushing souths agenda's looking for. Now he carries on like a sook but gee Souths i reckon Souths get more favours then us.

Brian Fletcher is the same for Penrith - He is always using the media to get some sort of leverage from some angle.

The NRL is a dog-eat dog world weather we like it or not. Its a ruthless industry and you need to use the media to your advantage in some scenarios.

Can you imagine if a club like those 2 or the roosters copped a draw like we did last year to start off with about 4 teams off the bye. Throw in the Western Sydney Derby on a Thursday. They would have been screaming from the rooftops about it.

Sarantinos or someone at the club should have been blowing up deluxe even if its parra source for example to the media on how much that cost the club that night that a premium game like Parra v Penrith a GF rematch should never be on a Thursday Night it got 16k when any other timeslot like a Friday or Sunday arvo would get 28k how much did that cost the club in gate takings.

Even though the decision was made its reminding the NRL we wont cop it without a stink moving forward.

The Matto debacle should never have happened i know everyone was emotional after a GF loss but how that got signed off by the club was simply inexcusable. I don't think any other club's management would have accepted that. And why not tell the NRL we need more time then 36 hours after a GF to make a decision he had 6 months to his next match.


Loudest in the room doesn't always get what they want.

A lot of what you stated are decisions that are not going to be reversed, so what is the point in causing a fuss in the media?

Also how do we know that Sarantinos isn't in continuous communication with the NRL behind the scenes?
 

Obscene Assassin

First Grade
Messages
6,349
I feel he could have a greater prescence around the game by putting pressure on the NRL a bit more especially in the media to give us more leverage with certain things and dictate the narrative instead of someone else letting the narrative dictate.

We seem like a club that just rolls over the moment NRL shaft us. And happy to just go with the flow.

Blake Solly is always in the media whinging/pushing souths agenda's looking for. Now he carries on like a sook but gee Souths i reckon Souths get more favours then us.

Brian Fletcher is the same for Penrith - He is always using the media to get some sort of leverage from some angle.

The NRL is a dog-eat dog world weather we like it or not. Its a ruthless industry and you need to use the media to your advantage in some scenarios.

Can you imagine if a club like those 2 or the roosters copped a draw like we did last year to start off with about 4 teams off the bye. Throw in the Western Sydney Derby on a Thursday. They would have been screaming from the rooftops about it.

Sarantinos or someone at the club should have been blowing up deluxe even if its parra source for example to the media on how much that cost the club that night that a premium game like Parra v Penrith a GF rematch should never be on a Thursday Night it got 16k when any other timeslot like a Friday or Sunday arvo would get 28k how much did that cost the club in gate takings.

Even though the decision was made its reminding the NRL we wont cop it without a stink moving forward.

The Matto debacle should never have happened i know everyone was emotional after a GF loss but how that got signed off by the club was simply inexcusable. I don't think any other club's management would have accepted that. And why not tell the NRL we need more time then 36 hours after a GF to make a decision he had 6 months to his next match.

If our CEO was in the media you'd have the same merkins whinging that we see too much of our CEO in the media and they're not actually doing anything behind the scenes.

Looser-looser situation
 

Twizzle

Administrator
Staff member
Messages
153,235
Also how do we know that Sarantinos isn't in continuous communication with the NRL behind the scenes?

beat me to it, we dont know that he is and we dont know that he's not as its not in the media

some will assume the worst

one thing I'd like to see is for us to appeaal some of the suspensions we get, some teams get decisions overturned yet we dont ever lodge an appeal, I cant rememebr the last ime we actually appealed against anythng
 

Soren Lorenson

First Grade
Messages
7,581
beat me to it, we dont know that he is and we dont know that he's not as its not in the media

some will assume the worst

one thing I'd like to see is for us to appeaal some of the suspensions we get, some teams get decisions overturned yet we dont ever lodge an appeal, I cant rememebr the last ime we actually appealed against anythng
It was in July, we fought Sivo's grading (and lost)
 

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