Rumours and Stuff

[84 Baby]

Because he's on $800k for 2 more seasons, he wants to play at the Roosters, but will play for Flanno for more, supposedly $900k...

That suggests we'd need $1m a season if we're interested

Presumably Cows definitely don’t want him beyond that 2 years, so if he stays his contract value will plummet.
It’s also likely he’ll receive a payout if he leaves Cows now. Certainly not $1.6m but likely enough to allow leeway in a new clubs contract.
In fact I highly doubt whoever signs him is going to be paying him $800k/yr. What will happen is they’ll be paying him for longer than 2 years. Holmes will back himself to stay relevant for a few more years and maybe transition that $1.6m over 2 years into maybe $2.4m over 4 years say.

 

[84 Baby]

Hunt and Hetherington are mediocre as well as dumb and lazy - players we can potentially do without.

I agree with the last bit. Maybe a couple of years back they may have had a role, but they’re not the players to replace RCG/Paulo/Matto

 

[Chipmunk]

Presumably Cows definitely don’t want him beyond that 2 years, so if he stays his contract value will plummet.
It’s also likely he’ll receive a payout if he leaves Cows now. Certainly not $1.6m but likely enough to allow leeway in a new clubs contract.
In fact I highly doubt whoever signs him is going to be paying him $800k/yr. What will happen is they’ll be paying him for longer than 2 years. Holmes will back himself to stay relevant for a few more years and maybe transition that $1.6m over 2 years into maybe $2.4m over 4 years say.

All sounds like wishful thinking to me.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

All sounds like wishful thinking to me.

Supporting the Eels is the definition of wishful thinking

 

[84 Baby]

All sounds like wishful thinking to me.

No one is signing Holmes for $800k a year unless there’s a significant jump in salary cap

 

[Chipmunk]

No one is signing Holmes for $800k a year unless there’s a significant jump in salary cap

He's already on $800k per year, he's the one who asked to speak to other clubs. Reports have indicated the Dragons will pay him $900k a season.

 

[JokerEel]

Because he's on $800k for 2 more seasons, he wants to play at the Roosters, but will play for Flanno for more, supposedly $900k...

That suggests we'd need $1m a season if we're interested

No club is paying him that money sorry.

Wishful thinking

 

[JokerEel]

He's already on $800k per year, he's the one who asked to speak to other clubs. Reports have indicated the Dragons will pay him $900k a season.

Cows said he could so they can gauge if he is still worth the coin .

Like I said no one is paying him 800k anymore at 30

 

[Eelogical]

Cowpats are releasing him for a reason, he's 29 and seems to have lost a bit of pace. I'm surprised Ryles is chasing him unless we can get him on the cheap and short term, say 2 years and no POs.

I'd rather we were chasing 20 year olds with the potential to develop.

That should be left in Dylbags hands.

 

[The Colonel]

Jack Henthrington for 250k would be ok. Not more.
We need to hope Guymer,Brazel,Tuvati come good. I think W.Latu is a smokie also.
Matalele has probably missed the boat.But considering injuries this year I'd give him 1 more season to maybe come good

Brazel and Guymer are both hard working and have the speed we lack as a lot of their early career was played in the centres. I think Latu is similar. Tuivaiti is an interesting one - shows potential but still needs some development. PVL ball is very similar to what was happening in 2000 & 2001 - mobility was the key across the park.

 

[hindy111]

Brazel and Guymer are both hard working and have the speed we lack as a lot of their early career was played in the centres. I think Latu is similar. Tuivaiti is an interesting one - shows potential but still needs some development. PVL ball is very similar to what was happening in 2000 & 2001 - mobility was the key across the park.

What about Pryke and Parker? Parker seems to pump out huge numbers.

 

[The Colonel]

What about Pryke and Parker? Parker seems to pump out huge numbers.

Probably need to talk with Ryles about that one but they would appear to fill the mould of player that is becoming more prevalent at the top clubs. Provided we can hold on to and develop them who knows. Given the people running the show at the moment sit on their hands for most of the season we can only hope I guess.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Brazel and Guymer are both hard working and have the speed we lack as a lot of their early career was played in the centres. I think Latu is similar. Tuivaiti is an interesting one - shows potential but still needs some development. PVL ball is very similar to what was happening in 2000 & 2001 - mobility was the key across the park.

Tuivaiti (only 19 this year) is 2 years younger than Brazel/Latu (21 this year).

Guymer is 20 this year, he didn't play NSW cup last year, and only moved up to flegg after SG ball was over. Tuivaiti skipped ball this year...so potentially is on a similar career path to Guymer...youngsters can develop pretty quickly after a full nrl offseason....or 2..

 

[oldmancraigy]

no one is paying him 800k anymore at 30

I mean... come on!
The Cowboys are literally paying him 800k at 30 UNLESS he accepts less.

Rumours suggets they like RCG - straight swap of Holmes for RCG (both allegedly paid the same) improves our squad balance quite a bit. One old highly paid guy for another. Holmes is still fast, and still a first 17 QLD Origin guy.

More than a small upgrade over Dunster or Simmo or Tago(!) in my humble opinion.....

 

[The Colonel]

Tuivaiti (only 19 this year) is 2 years younger than Brazel/Latu (21 this year).

My biggest issue is that he is potentially a Paulo clone and he is still growing.

 

[Pazza]

Tuivaiti (only 19 this year) is 2 years younger than Brazel/Latu (21 this year).

Guymer is 20 this year, he didn't play NSW cup last year, and only moved up to flegg after SG ball was over. Tuivaiti skipped ball this year...so potentially is on a similar career path to Guymer...youngsters can develop pretty quickly after a full nrl offseason....or 2..

Sam T is top 30 next year???

 

[The Colonel]

I mean... come on!
The Cowboys are literally paying him 800k at 30 UNLESS he accepts less.

Rumours suggets they like RCG - straight swap of Holmes for RCG (both allegedly paid the same) improves our squad balance quite a bit. One old highly paid guy for another. Holmes is still fast, and still a first 17 QLD Origin guy.

More than a small upgrade over Dunster or Simmo or Tago(!) in my humble opinion.....

There was a suggestion that the Cowboys were interested in Sivo as well. Hasn't Holmes agreed to stay in Nth Qld though?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Brazel and Guymer are both hard working and have the speed we lack as a lot of their early career was played in the centres. I think Latu is similar. Tuivaiti is an interesting one - shows potential but still needs some development. PVL ball is very similar to what was happening in 2000 & 2001 - mobility was the key across the park.

Saxon Pryke has decent wraps.

 

[Gronk]

I mean... come on!
The Cowboys are literally paying him 800k at 30 UNLESS he accepts less.

Rumours suggets they like RCG - straight swap of Holmes for RCG (both allegedly paid the same) improves our squad balance quite a bit. One old highly paid guy for another. Holmes is still fast, and still a first 17 QLD Origin guy.

More than a small upgrade over Dunster or Simmo or Tago(!) in my humble opinion.....

Has merit.

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Sam T is top 30 next year???

Yes:

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