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phantom eel

First Grade
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So, if a family has the means to support the education of their child in a non-government school, whether partially or wholly, are you suggesting that this abdicates the government from it's responsibility to provide an education to all of its citizens?
No, it's responsibility to provide is catered for in government schools system. If parents take a choice to opt out of that system/government responsibility, then (philosophically) I'm saying it should be at theirs/their non-goverment education provider's cost. Imo the rest of the community/the government system shouldn't have to suffer the loss of funding for that choice.
 

phantom eel

First Grade
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Bart, are you aware that they DO fund that choice??
Yes. I'm arguing that they (the parents and the non-govt education providers) should fund it more.
Funding has been pulled from private schools in the past. In 1962 a Catholic lady pulled all her kids out of the Catholic schooling system (I think she had 6? But it was the 60s and she was Catholic, so may have been 26??) and sent them to the state schools in protest that the government refused to fund equally the education of all children. Others followed suit, the Catholics closed their schools, the state schools in Goulburn collapsed under the pressure, and the folly of the decision to remove funding from some kids was seen.
An example of where religion (or subsidised religious education) and politics intersect... and they shouldn't.
Fund all kids to go to school.
Sure, in the government system, with additional funding available from making the wealthy non-govt education providers pay more of their own way.
I understand the frustration when a private school receives MORE funding per student than a public school in the exact same circumstances (ie same suburb). I'm not across the numbers well enough to understand how that could possibly occur?
Because the system is f**ked, is based on historical lobbying and polictics rather than need, is maintained by the power plays of the wealthy non-govt education providers, and is propped up by the aspirational inclination of the modern populace (on the back of snazzy marketing and media coverage supportive of the private education sector - and the income it all generates).
IMHO it ought to be an equal $ per student - and if they want to base that on the theory of economic banding, then that sounds good to me (ie, more affluent areas receive slightly less funding per student).
Agree economic banding in some form needs to be a bigger part of the mix - preferrably closing the loopholes currently used by wealthy fee-for-entry private schools to obtain better funding per student than the public schools in their same areas. But it seems pollies don't have the bravery to actually put this properly into practice.
 

phantom eel

First Grade
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Kyle Lovett's penalty for possession of recreational drugs
-$5000 fine and $10000 suspended fine
- 4 game suspension ... 2 games already served via 9s and trials, pfffft
- community service and councilling ... ppffffft

Got off lightly? ... Norman copped 8 fair dinkum nrl games ... and i think an similar fine
What was his substance? If same as Norman, I agree it's strange he seems to have gotten off lightly.
 

strider

Post Whore
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Lovett = cocaine .... Norman = exstacy

Im not a good enough judge to say whats better/worse ... lol
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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https://au.sports.yahoo.com/league/...rds-set-to-receive-massive-nrl-penalty/#page1

Kenny Edwards set to receive massive NRL penalty
7Sport on February 28, 2017, 7:00 pm

The Parramatta Eels forward pleaded guilty to common assault in court on Monday for pouring water on his former partner in December.

He avoided a conviction but has been suspended indefinitely by Parramatta.

He is now faced with the possibility of a ban for up to half the 2017 season along with a massive fine.

The ban could extend to 14 weeks, leaving the 27-year-old searching for other opportunities.

Edwards has played 43 NRL games for the Eels since debuting in 2013 following a rocky start to his career at multiple clubs.
 

Avenger

Immortal
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Kenny did something very stupid but it isnt in the same ballpark
as what Pearce did last year. If this is true which I suspect it iwas leaked to check the reaction of the public than the NRL are a farce.
 

El Diablo

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#powerhouse
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Chipmunk

Coach
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Kenny did something very stupid but it isnt in the same ballpark
as what Pearce did last year. If this is true which I suspect it iwas leaked to check the reaction of the public than the NRL are a farce.

You're taking the piss aren't you?

What crime was Pearce convicted of again?
 
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