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King-Gutho94

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Parramatta Eels warrior Fuifui Moimoi can't forgive Brad Arthur's 'betrayal'

Parramatta cult hero Fuifui Moimoi claims he was "betrayed" by Eels coach Brad Arthur in his final year at the club, alleging a personal vendetta denied him the opportunity to play his farewell match at Pirtek Stadium.

Moimoi, now with the Leigh Centurions in England's second-tier competition, is about to release his biography Fui Speaks and reveals the story of one of league's men of mystery, a player who wriggled out of interviews by telling journalists "English no good".

At a time when NRL player workloads are an issue, his language couldn't be more cutting in describing the anger he feels towards Arthur, saying they fell out when he refused to return early to pre-season training after representing Tonga in the 2013 World Cup.

"I think Brad was angry at me from the beginning of the [2014] season because I wanted to go home to Tonga after the World Cup," wrote Moimoi. "Test players were supposed to get time off after the World Cup before returning to training, but he wanted me to come in early. Every player in the NRL gets a certain amount of time off at the end of each year. Apparently he did not care about this for me. I asked him why and he said, 'I don't want you to train, I just want you to come in and be around the boys'.

"I said it was a waste of time for me to come back early and tried to explain that my family lived overseas, I had a baby living in the States and I needed to see my mum and brother in Tonga. I said, 'I don't have enough time' and he told me that if I didn't return to the Eels early then don't be upset if I ended up missing the first five games. I couldn't believe he tried to pressure me like that, but as I've mentioned earlier, I'm not the type of person to get angry or blow up. So I just told Brad, 'well, if that's what you want, I'm happy with that'.

He said he'd give me a bye week off to go to see my family later in the year. I said I didn't need that week off and that I'd rather spend time with my family straight after the World Cup, which was at the end of a long year. But Brad just wouldn't budge and I started to get frustrated with him."

Arthur did not want to comment on the claims but a club spokesperson said Moimoi was considered a Parramatta "legend" and is respected for having played more than 200 first grade games there.

However, he said instead of being strongarmed by Arthur to return to Australia straight after the World Cup Moimoi was granted an extended break.
"Fui was provided an extra three weeks of leave," said the spokesperson. "He was contacted by the club once he had failed to return to the country by the agreed time."

While MoiMoi said he was better than the some of the 17 players selected for the final game at Pirtek Stadium the club spokesperson said he was promoted to first grade towards the end of the 2014 season because Junior Paulo was suspended.

"Paulo returned to the side [against] Manly after serving a two week suspension," he said.

Moimoi wanted to know why Parramatta's Australian and New Zealand representatives appeared to receive more favourable treatment but he was enraged by Arthur's suggestion he promised Ricky Stuart he would return early after representing Tonga.

"Brad then really made my blood boil by claiming I'd already agreed with the Eels' previous coach, Ricky Stuart, to come back the following week after the World Cup," he wrote. "I replied, 'F--- off, I never agreed to that with Sticky or the club'. I think from that day Brad just tried to find a way to get me back. I just felt he did not give me the respect I had given him."

Moimoi worked hard to ensure he couldn't be dropped but was demoted to the NSW Cup. He rebuffed an opportunity to make a mid-season switch to Manly because he wanted to play his 200th game for Parramatta.

When Penrith approached him with an offer Moimoi was swayed to stay by Arthur who insisted he would return to first grade. However, he was denied the chance to farewell his supporters in the final home game of the year when he was axed again.

"It was the hardest thing I've ever been through in my career," he wrote. "It made me feel so angry. Brad said he had to pick the best 17, but I know I'm still better than some of those players he selected

Moimoi's hurt was compounded because while many of his teammates were said to be unhappy about his treatment he only heard from Peni Terepo, Nathan Cayless and Jarryd Hayne: "Some of the boys who I thought were my good mates didn't even call me to see how I was going."

He was convinced to go to the game to farewell the Parramatta faithful and Moimoi said he was grateful to have taken the advice when he walked around the ground to say farewell to the fans after fulltime.

"It was so emotional, I was almost crying seeing their happy faces and how much they appreciated me. I signed autographs until they closed the ground and turned the lights off. I would love to have played a big game in front of them one last time but it wasn't meant to be. The way the coach dropped me made me feel I wasn't good enough to play my last game in front of them. That's why I wanted to stay back and sign as many autographs as I could. It made me feel better and appreciate what is really important: the fans and the people who have supported me over the years."

Moimoi said he was angry at his treatment because of the way he had viewed Arthur before the pair fell out.

"I actually helped him get the job at the Eels," he wrote. "Back in 2013 when the club was deciding between Jason Taylor and Brad for the coaching job, there was some campaigning behind the scenes from his end and some people within the club, I was asked to put in a good word for him along with a few other players. Even though I really liked Jason from his days as head coach at the Eels, I was more than happy to recommend Brad. I had fond memories of when Brad was an assistant and caretaker coach at the club and felt like he had been good to me. So I felt like he had betrayed me when he treated me so poorly throughout the 2014 season."

 

Poupou Escobar

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If you need an idea what’s needed at the club, the podcast that James Graham and Tim Mannah put out ii worth listening to. Seems BA fell out with Matt Cameron who was integral to our junior pathways at the time.

Importantly he stated that juniors under DeGois, Shepard, Hodgson and Rankin have the place on the right track. He suggested that past that level is where it needs improving as the club lost the pathways structure implemented by Cameron and the desire for players to want to stay , need more pathways in the top30. The need to get Cameron back to the club was inferred across the debate.

The issue seems that McElduff and Sarentinos would need to admit their assertion that we have the Ponnisi of the West was off the mark, not something they seem keen to acknowledge.

Tim definitely has a passion for the club and the need to see success .
Mannah’s a dope and doesn’t know what’s required. He has an axe to grind, which is why Graham got him on the show.
 

Joshuatheeel

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Here is a question if we didn't have cap issues (cheated )and BA was talked up as the savior would he have lasted as long with the same results?

I would say he would have been fired after 18
If we didn't have cap issues in 2016, wouIdnt that mean we wouId have made the finals 6 times from 7 years (we wouId have made it in 2016,)......and that's after not making the finals in the previous 5 years before he was...

pre BA
2011, 14th
2012, spoon
2013, spoon

while BA wouId have gone:

2014, miss 8
2015, miss 8
2016, finals
2017, finals, top 4
2018, miss 8
2019, finals
2020, finals, top 4
2021, finals
2022, finals, top 4, GF
2023, miss 8
2024, sacked

Are you saying that's a poor record?

Gee the hate for BA is crazy. Fair enough he didn't take us to the holy grail, fair enough it was time for change, but gee his era was more successful then some are willing to give credit for! The years before him was horrible.
 

JokerEel

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If we didn't have cap issues in 2016, wouIdnt that mean we wouId have made the finals 6 times from 7 years (we wouId have made it in 2016,)......and that's after not making the finals in the previous 5 years before he was...

pre BA
2011, 14th
2012, spoon
2013, spoon

while BA wouId have gone:

2014, miss 8
2015, miss 8
2016, finals
2017, finals, top 4
2018, miss 8
2019, finals
2020, finals, top 4
2021, finals
2022, finals, top 4, GF
2023, miss 8
2024, sacked

Are you saying that's a poor record?

Gee the hate for BA is crazy. Fair enough he didn't take us to the holy grail, fair enough it was time for change, but gee his era was more successful then some are willing to give credit for! The years before him was horrible.


Well I said he would have been sacked after the 18 seasons wooden spoon (of we didn't crap the bed with the salary cap)

Which is 2 out of 5 for finals and a wooden spoon...


Maybe we kept BA longer than what he deserved because of the 4 previous coaches were absolutely shit and lasted 2 years each max
 

Poupou Escobar

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What annoys me is that he made out that he owes us everything for the opportunity but has since bagged the club all be it in a private setting to a well known podcaster.

He easily has the most mediocre results of any coach in a decade long period in world sport and left the club in a worse state than when he arrived.
When he took over we’d just won consecutive spoons. Hardly a strong, stable club.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Wilson won’t be a backup he is class. Simonsen won’t start the season he is coming back from an ACL.

Rarrly do you have everyone fit and available anyway or so it seems.
He might’ve meant that’s what he thinks the team will look like at (hypothetical) full strength at the end of the year, rather than round one with injuries.
 

Poupou Escobar

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He poisoned the well on his way out, after the club setting him and his family up for life.

Some of the stuff that is coming out about him now says to me he’s anything but a great bloke. Plus the media think he’s aces, that says to me he’s not.

He loves the club and bleeds blue and gold, more like he loved what the club could do for him and his family. Leeds is not far away enough from the club as far as I’m concerned.
Sure he’s “poisoned the well”. Because some of his players loved him and weren’t happy he was rissoled. The majority of them are happy to stay, and whoever leaves frees up cap space. It’ll be a seamless transition.
 

The Predictor

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I changed my tune on Timmy after listening to it.

As much as he probably played 2 years too long he had a nice guy but losing mentality about him which i felt rubbed off on the squad during those lean years between 2011-2018.

He loves the club and the way he was treated at the finish was piss poor and downright disgraceful.

Credit to him for sticking around the club post his playing days and not sulking about it in public either.

He could have walked away and not taken a job within the club and it would have been fair enough too.
Same Fuifui, the bald fraud could hold a grudge, how dare he not give those players the decent send off they deserved, Mannah was always underrated, I thought he was very good, and no one played the ball quicker, not like these lazy bums
 

Poupou Escobar

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Here is a question if we didn't have cap issues (cheated )and BA was talked up as the savior would he have lasted as long with the same results?

I would say he would have been fired after 18
Here’s a question, what if we continued getting away with cheating and had a squad as strong as clubs like the Storm and Roosters? How many premierships might we have won?
 

The Predictor

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Not going to say it was or wasn't BA. But BA picked up the phone pretty quickly to Barrett when he got the sack at the doggies.
He obviously knew Trent wasn’t ever going to take his job, Brad was always about Brad and his boys …….now realise if u didn’t crawl up his ass he could be ruthless!!!
 

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