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Gronk

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If we come last, do you sack him or not?
The answer to your question involves cool heads, a review of his recruitment, tactics, unforseen circumstances that may have arose which prevent the team performing at high levels (injuries or off field shenanigans) and off contract coaches who could offer better outcomes.

You dont replace a coach for the sake of change. It may be that 6 new players and a bit of luck with injuries may be all we need.
 

Gazzamatta

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The answer to your question involves cool heads, a review of his recruitment, tactics, unforseen circumstances that may have arose which prevent the team performing at high levels (injuries or off field shenanigans) and off contract coaches who could offer better outcomes.

You dont replace a coach for the sake of change. It may be that 6 new players and a bit of luck with injuries may be all we need.
Sounds like a fair job required of a "Football Manager". I get a sence BA is running the whole shooting match.
On another level, the style of play coached in the NRL is being reinforced through all levels of our club and juniors. We are striving for continuity. Lord help us.
 

Glenneel

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The roster is fine. It can always be improved and renewed, and it will be. There's a reason we have so many forwards still off contract in May. Only Alvaro and Brown were re-signed.

In every case it is temporary. Newcastle won three straight wooden spoons, two of them under Nathan Brown. Now he's been able to turn the roster over and they are competitive, does that mean he suddenly knows how to coach?
Our roster is not fine, if it was we'd be going much better. We need a good cleanout and adopt the Roosters formula imo, good top 17 and fill the squad out with juniors and journeymen.

No Brown knew what he wanted for this year. He already had a reasonably decent squad but was missing experience and leadership so bought that in plus the X factor in Ponga. Got this kid for an absoluter bargain.
 

hineyrulz

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Why do people keep banging on about getting Matt Lodge ... has he been good for the Broncos this year? ... they arent exactly setting the world on fire either .... if he was in our current team i bet he would be as crap as the rest of our mob
Lodge had been solid but hardly dominant.

Not really what we need, Pangai Jr, Sua and Joe Ohenwhatever his name is have been the ones who have given them the grunt in some of their wins.
 

Gazzamatta

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I do wonder at times if players such as Cleary, Kikau, Edwards, Blake, May etc were Parra juniors would they now be playing NRL? Hope Im not putting you on the Spot Gus111?
 

hineyrulz

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People still want to sit in here and say attitude isn’t the issue? :rolling_eyes:
And you want to sit in here and say it’s all the players fault???

You reckon they didn’t have a crack last night?? I reckon they did they just played dumb. Something we apparently we worked on in the off season.

So glad we did imagine if we didnt????
 

hineyrulz

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I do wonder at times if players such as Cleary, Kikau, Edwards, Blake, May etc were Parra juniors would they now be playing NRL? Hope Im not putting you on the Spot Gus111?
We would of let them all go only to sign them 10 years later on massive overs.

It’s what we do.
 

Poupou Escobar

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If we come last, do you sack him or not?
Assuming we keep winning f**k all games, whether we come last or not depends on how other clubs go as well. Why should they determine what we do with our coach?

In case you don’t understand what I’m saying, why is winning eight games (for example) and running last worse than winning six games (for example) and running 14th or 15th?
 

Gronk

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Sounds like a fair job required of a "Football Manager". I get a sence BA is running the whole shooting match.
On another level, the style of play coached in the NRL is being reinforced through all levels of our club and juniors. We are striving for continuity. Lord help us.
Do you think that BA insisted that he take the roll of FM or it was forced upon him ? Do you think that he elected not to replace Gentle immediately after he left as well ?
 

hineyrulz

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Sounds like a fair job required of a "Football Manager". I get a sence BA is running the whole shooting match.
On another level, the style of play coached in the NRL is being reinforced through all levels of our club and juniors. We are striving for continuity. Lord help us.
They should be doing all they can to be getting Brian Smith as or head of football. Just makes sure he isn’t allowed to talk to the first grade team before games.
 

I bleed blue & gold

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The Eels will now have to do what only one team before them has done.

Come back from a 2-8 start to the year. At least history is on the club's side because that team was the 2006 Eels.


But Smithy was smart enough to walk, first.

I remember back in 2006, our forwards were depleted.

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Poupou Escobar

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I would like us to go for both Matt Lodge and Tevita Pangai Jr. I wouldn't be going for Oats. He is an untested backrower in the NRL. Why would we pay top dollar that has a dream as opposed to a tried and tested and proven NRL quality backrower?

What if he fails to achieve his dream and is plum ordinary as a backrower? Then we are stuck with a player that we are paying top dollar to play wing where he may not be to happy doing so. He is a gamble. I have had enough of those types of top money gambles.
Does he really want to play in the forwards? He is one of the best wingers in the game. He is worth at least $600k as a winger. Oates is exactly what we need.
 

hineyrulz

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Do you think that BA insisted that he take the roll of FM or it was forced upon him ? Do you think that he elected not to replace Gentle immediately after he left as well ?
Bernie said Ba has never not had what he wanted when it comes to staff.

That was after the talk no head of Football and defence coach.

Funny that we did sign one the next week.
 

Bazal

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Does he really want to play in the forwards? He is one of the best wingers in the game. He is worth at least $600k as a winger. Oates is exactly what we need.

He's been a forward most of his junior career, they did a T-Rex with him when he came into grade and it's been a huge success but I can't blame him for wanting to play his "natural" position
 

hineyrulz

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Does he really want to play in the forwards? He is one of the best wingers in the game. He is worth at least $600k as a winger. Oates is exactly what we need.
Time and time again he has continually stated he wants to be an edge backrower, even after his MOTM effort on the wing against Souths he brought it up.

If he goes anywhere it will be becsuse they have offered him a spot in the back row.
 

Gazzamatta

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Do you think that BA insisted that he take the roll of FM or it was forced upon him ? Do you think that he elected not to replace Gentle immediately after he left as well ?
These and other questions I cant answer. Im just stressing their need. Maybe BA said give me the money and ill do the lot. Who knows. I do know it aint workin though.
 

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