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Enamoured Eel

Juniors
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Without him we wouldn’t have even got to the grand final. You take the good with the bad.

I think we are coming to realise how demanding the position is. Especially for players entering their first full season playing 80 minutes on the edge.

Ice died in the a*se for the last month or two of the 2022 competition. He was moved out of the role in 2021.

In respect of the 2023 season, case in point for Jackson Ford, Zac Hosking etc.
 

JokerEel

Coach
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This is hilarious....everywhere he has been has said exactly the same thing.....Tigers & Manly couldnt get him to work due to a lack of surrounding baldness no doubt. I looking forward to this one.

“Kelma has a fantastic work ethic. He had a break out season last year playing the bulk of it in the NRL." Anthony Seibold February 2023 at the start of a THREE YEAR contract.

less than 12 months later, the same at Parra. I like you guys but hate Parra and Im going to enjoy watching another break out season.



Manly and Tigers that's the issue right there....
 

The Predictor

Juniors
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1,991
It hurt us big time in the 22 GF, missed 1000 tackles that game. But being a poor defender is just accepted here, it’s in the
DNA.

The coach hasn’t been able to fix our disgusting edge defence for eons but here he is again earning big money while us fans have to watch continual ineptitude while the idiots in charge just think he needs a little more time to get it right. The joys of following a small little club with no money or resources.
Yep, u don’t see that at any other club, we are hanging on to ole mate like he’s jack gibson……unfathomable and infuriating !!!
 

JokerEel

Coach
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As bad as Ices defence is I think if you took Yeo out of the Panthers and put him any where else he would be rated behind Ice in attack and defence.

He let in 3 tries during the GF last year...

Lateral movement for someone who runs sideways alot and started as a winger/centre is poor.
 

The Predictor

Juniors
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1,991
A small update:

Blaize Talagi is a gun and is expected to play some first grade this season. He is highly rated by the club but still needs to fill out.

Meanwhile Kelma Tuilagi has been the most impressive and somewhat a surprise and will be picked in our 17. The club is of the view that he will have a breakout season and already think that he has more skill than what Papali’i had when he initially arrived at our club.
Can he tackle?? be cause I’ve never seen a worse defensive game from a forward, saved his worst for most important game, he cost a couple of tries at least
 

Tiger5150

Bench
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Seibold isn't exactly a development coach either.
.
He hasn't proven yet he can polish any turds and improve average plodders like BA can.

The only turd Seibs has polished is the Wooden spoon at Brisbane HQ.
He has some serious polishing to do....
remote.axd
 

Stevie

Bench
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3,149
@Stevie what does that article say mate?
For some reason it won’t let me copy and paste maybe someone else can help?

Talks about things like his preference is not carrying a specialist hooker on the bench, he wants an 80mins player. It’s even between Hands/Lussick at this stage. That they are both helping Matt Arthur hugely.
That Bryce has come back physically bigger yet significantly faster/fitter than 23 which is huge.
That Morgan Harper is physically much bigger that he realised and that is a scrapper at a cross roads in his career. Didn’t sound guaranteed anything.

He mentioned S Russell has “filled out a lot” this off season and looking good. Sounds like he is a lock next to Will P.

Said he believes D Brown can be the best 5/8 in the game and looking very good.

That Moses is working extremely hard on his leadership and how he speaks to the whole group and is focused on making better players around him.

That Gutho was the one instigating the chat about finding and X factor bench player. Gutho is happy to move from fullback IF they attract a superstar but he is working with the kids coming through to perhaps take over in 25.

There are currently 9 18 year olds training in the full time squad.
 

eels_fan

First Grade
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7,574
PAUL CRAWLEY puts those questions, and more, to coach Brad Arthur as he looks to get the Eels back into the top eight in 2024.

Paul Crawley: You turn 50 this year and you’re now coming into your 11th season at Parramatta. You must be proud and honoured to have done what you have done?

Brad Arthur: All the privilege is mine. I am so grateful to the club and especially the current administration and the players who have performed at a level to keep me in the job.


PC: It must have been disappointing to go from a grand final to missing the top eight. What needs to change?

BA: Look, I have to have this conversation obviously because it can’t be avoided, and we know what we need to do. We don’t want to be looking back too much. But at the end of the day there were some changes to our squad. Whether it was that we had nine or 10 players change in our squad, we had five or six that weren’t there from the grand final team. So there were some changes that were made and we sort of needed to start over again. And on the top of that, we couldn’t afford with new players in our squad to have blokes missing through, not injuries, but suspensions.


PC: Some of them were avoidable too weren’t they?

BA: Well, there are some that aren’t avoidable because it is football. But there is at least 10 weeks there that could have and should have been avoided. We made some silly decisions, as a club. And obviously I don’t want to highlight those (individuals), we all know, but that really hurt the club and the team.

PC: When you brought Mitchell Moses to the club he was a polarising, young bloke. But you have developed him into an elite player and he is reaching the years now where the playmakers come into their best. Where does he grow?

BA: He is working extremely hard on his leadership, and he has got better at it. When he first came to the club – and this is not a knock on him – but we didn’t recruit him for his defence. We recruited him for his flair, attack and his excitement. And over time he has managed to develop where he is a very good defensive half now. He understands the systems well and what his job is, and he plays a lot more controlled. So he is on top of his football.

It’s his development with his leadership and what he can do for other squad members and the young blokes in our squad, and the legacy that he can leave for his teammates and his club. And what he is working really hard on is how he gets his message across to people and his teammates, because he is very passionate, very aggressive, and sometimes his excitement and he has a real desire to win, so he is working on how he expresses his feelings in a way that suits everyone and impacts everyone in a positive way.

And the hardest thing is, and the first thing they have got to identify is their awareness about it, and put their egos aside and saying, ‘Yep, I have got to be better in that part of it’.


PC: What about a young bloke like Dylan Brown. What should his goals be? And how did you rate him this past season?

BA: Dylan Brown for me is one of my favourites. I say that about a lot of them but … what happened to him (last) year is not a reflection of who he is. He is such a good person. His mum has done a really good job with him.

And it is the same with Mitchell. Mitchell would give you the shirt off his back.

Dylan has made some poor decisions. But now for Dylan, he is 23 and he needs to show that he is maturing and his best football is still ahead of him.

He has the ability in my eyes – and this is not putting pressure on him – to be one of the best players in our competition. And before he got suspended last season he was one of the best players. He was having a massive influence on games. And he is still going to grow into it, but it is time for him now to assert himself as one of the best sixes in our competition.

PC:You’re right there, because you saw him in the recent Pacific Championships. In the second last game for New Zealand where the Kiwis got flogged.

BA: He did nothing.


PC: What about this constant talk chasing X-factor. With Clint Gutherson, is your thoughts that potentially he may move to the centres?

BA: I don’t know because we would need a fullback that is better than him, and there is not many. To move him from the position that he is really good at and owns, and you only need to look at him in our last game against Penrith.

We have x-factor in our team in Mitchell and Dylan and blokes like that.

It is just, as a coach you want to be greedy, and it would be nice if we could have like, a couple of clubs have got someone that they can bring off the bench with a bit of x-factor.

But Gutho is an effort and an energy-based player. He is our on-field leader. He follows the game plan and drives the game messaging. It is like an on-field coach.

So him moving from fullback would be a decision that he would have to be comfortable with but it is also something he has openly said.

PC: He is 29. Long-term you might get more longevity out of him if you could find a way to take some of that pressure off him.

BA: These are all conversations that me and Gutho have had openly and he is the one driving most of it. But I am not going to move our best player last season. He got all our awards, from fullback if there is not someone (better). We have got a couple of young kids in our squad that he is doing some work with and we will see how they go. They are still a while away but we hold a bit of hope. And Gutho is a team player and he is working with me to help these young blokes. Maybe in 12 or 18 months, maybe it is one of them who takes over from him and he moves to the centres.

PC: Well, you do have some good young kids coming through. From the outside looking in, you look at names like Jock Brazel, Charlie Guymer, Blaize Talagi, Ethan Sanders, Sam Tuivaiti. How far off NRL are they?

BA: We have got nine under the age of 19 training with our full-time squad at the moment and they are all handling it really well. Whether that gets them an opportunity, I’m not sure. What we are doing is certainly trying to get them ready for 2025 and beyond.


PC: There is a big rap on Ethan around the game and there are these links to Canberra. How do you keep him when you know you have got Mitchell and Dylan with long-term contracts?

BA: He is contracted to us for 2024 and he has accepted that he is staying, and he will be given every opportunity. He is part of the group we are doing working with our emerging leaders, so we are doing as much as we can to help him.

I am sure no one expects us to move either Mitchell, who is the current NSW halfback, Dylan Brown the current five-eighth, from our team to accommodate him.

Yeah, we would like to keep him but it is just what the salary cap does, it is what opportunity does. If Ethan is going well this year and one of those guys gets injured – touch wood hopefully they don’t. But if there is a game or two and he is ready for it, I will have no hesitation playing him. But Dylan is only 23, Mitchell is 27.


PC: How do you see the battle for the dummy half spot between Brendan Hands and Joey Lussick?

BA: Handsie has done a good job with some of his opportunities that he got in ’23. And Joey Lussick finished the season there. At the end of the day I have never been real keen at just picking a specialist hooker on the bench. I like our hookers to be able to play 80 minutes and both of those guys are training really well and they are helping each other. They are confident in their own ability and both comfortable that they are competing with each other. We can only have one of them so the trials will work it out and pre-season.

PC: How has Haze Dunster returned from surgery after missing the entire 2022 season?

BA: He had a few things that we had to sort out for him at the back-end of last year in around some iron and some blood things. But he is training really well and he knows that he has got an opportunity.

PC: I guess that wing spot that you talk about is open?

BA: There are a few spots in our squad (up for grabs). Sean Russell did a good job at the back end of the year. He has bulked up a bit in the pre-season. He is a tough player. He knows his job well. He is someone the boys like having in the team. He finished the year there with Will Penisini and they started to create a pretty good understanding and combination.

PC: Will is good mates with Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii and has been linked to a potential code switch. Are you confident he will stay long-term?

BA: He is a Parramatta junior, he lives local, he loves the club. I have a strong relationship with him. It would be a big move for him to leave and he hasn’t indicated it. At some stage he might. That is up to him. He is comfortable with where he is at the moment. He has his brother (Richard) training with us and coming through the system. I would think that he would like to stick around and maybe try and play alongside his brother at some stage. I can’t see that happening in the near future, but I am not Will.


PC: J’maine Hopgood came from nowhere last year. After a full season, how does he take his game to the next level?

BA: Well, he did get an opportunity, he was 18th man (in the Queensland squad). The next thing is he wants to be in it. But obviously he came from a very good system, he just needed more opportunity and exposure to NRL. His first few games for us he was really good. But as the games wore on he would lose a little bit of detail and we would come up with key words just to sort of trigger him. By the end of the year he was able to play out a full 80 minutes and stay on top of his detail and (keep his) concentration levels. That is not easy for a middle forward to do that. Obviously people started to work him out at the back end of the year. People know a bit more about him. So he is just going to have to find ways to combat that.
 

eels_fan

First Grade
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PC: There are a couple of new recruits. Morgan Harper and Kelma Tuilagi. What roles do you see them playing next year?

BA: (Morgan) has played close to 50 first grade games so he is just looking for an opportunity. He is more of a defensive style of centre. He is actually bigger than I thought. I just like that he competes and scraps and fights hard. I like those sort of guys when they come to our club because they are looking for an opportunity and they are going to do everything they can, because he is sort of at a bit of a crossroads of his career. He is a bit different to what you see on TV when he is in everyone’s face and stuff like that. But at training he is just nice and reserved.

PC: What about Tuilagi?

BA: Big, strong, obviously really good with the football. He is a tackle breaker and his skill level and understanding of the game seems to be pretty good too. We are just getting some work into him and making sure he can develop into an 80-minute back-rower. That is probably the challenge for him now, being an 80-minute backrower and being able to do all the defensive side of it that is not really rewarding for a lot of people.

PC: No one has ever questioned Bryce Cartwright’s talent, but he seemed to come a long way this past season.

BA: Carty is a really good person. He is a great dad with two beautiful kids and when he is settled off the field, he is a lot better on the field. And he has got some good mates around him. Reg, Gutho and Mitch who sort of took him under their wing a bit.

And Carty probably had close to the best season of his career. He played a lot tougher and did a lot of the dirty work. He rolled his sleeves up with a lot of the stuff that he probably hadn’t done in the past. His skillset has got nothing to do with us.

Now for Carty, well, he has showed that he can do it, it is just that want and desire to do it a second year around. All the indications are at training is that he is (thinking), ‘Well, I am starting to reach my potential. I need to do it year in year out’. He has come back in great shape. He is heavier which helps him but his fitness levels are also better than last year.

He has got that stuff that I can’t coach and I didn’t give to him. His vision, he can offload … he has got a skillset that is untapped.


PC: What about your sons. Potentially down the track you will have two NRL players. Jake is at Manly and now young Matthew is training with the NRL squad over summer. How is he going along?

BA: With Jake, he has moved out of home, he is with Manly. His last couple of games for them he played really well but I have just seen him change as a person. Maybe a bit of that was overprotecting him, I don’t know, as a dad.

But I am going to make sure I don’t make the same mistakes with Matthew because I just see a different person (now) in Jake. Also he is 21 and he has matured a bit. Matthew is training hard and he is enjoying being around his mates. He is one of those nine kids that are training well. He is in no rush. Joey Lussick and Brendan Hands have been outstanding with him, taking him under their wing and doing a lot with him, and the three of them have sort of formed a real combination doing their extras at the end of training.

PC: What is a fair expectation for next year?

BA: At the very minimum we are a finals team every year. Every year we are a finals team at the very minimum. And we need to have that aim. And we are not going to talk about it, but we should be pushing that top end.

 

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