Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Wow, settle down petal.
I simply gave you the numbers that show how each of the 16 clubs have performed.
You seem a little wound up dude.

We should only sign staff who promise a win rate over 85%. I wonder if Ryles or Hannay came up with the bigger number?

 

[JokerEel]

We should only sign staff who promise a win rate over 85%. I wonder if Ryles or Hannay came up with the bigger number?

We should sign a coach who wants to improve the defense to be a dominant side...

Year	Position	Points For	Points For Per Game	Points against	Points Against Per Game	For & Against	Games
2014	10th	477	19.9	580	24.2	-103	24
2015	12th	448	18.7	573	23.9	-125	24
2016	14th	298	12.4	324	13.5	-26	24
2017	4th	496	20.7	457	19.0	39	24
2018	Last	374	15.6	550	22.9	-176	24
2019	5th	533	22.2	473	19.7	60	24
2020	3rd	392	19.6	288	14.4	104	20
2021	6th	566	23.6	457	19.0	109	24
2022	4th	608	25.3	489	20.4	119	24
2023	11th	543	24.7	522	23.7	21	22
2024	17th	283	20.2	404	28.9	-121	14
2009	8th	476	21.6	473	21.5	3	22

 

[Wally21]

We should only sign staff who promise a win rate over 85%. I wonder if Ryles or Hannay came up with the bigger number?

You keep agreeing with me and reinforcing what I have said all along. Thanks for your support

 

[Tiger5150]

No I’m explaining to you what you’ve obviously read and misunderstood and then parroted here in our forum.

umm I didnt misunderstand what I wrote myself, I know what I wrote and meant and it had nothing to do with pathways.

 

[lucablight]

Premierships and high win rate are both a product of being competitive. Win rate is granular so a better way to measure a team than premierships, especially over a very short time frame like six years.

Otherwise why are merkins pissing and moaning over missing the finals? We are no worse than the other 15 teams that don’t win the comp ffs

Win rate is fine if you were a struggling team looking to move up the ladder because it’s a tangible improvement. However, eventually a playing group or coaching setup will reach a point where that’s not enough and you need to be challenging for premierships or something has to change.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We should sign a coach who wants to improve the defense to be a dominant side...

Year	Position	Points For	Points For Per Game	Points against	Points Against Per Game	For & Against	Games
2014	10th	477	19.9	580	24.2	-103	24
2015	12th	448	18.7	573	23.9	-125	24
2016	14th	298	12.4	324	13.5	-26	24
2017	4th	496	20.7	457	19.0	39	24
2018	Last	374	15.6	550	22.9	-176	24
2019	5th	533	22.2	473	19.7	60	24
2020	3rd	392	19.6	288	14.4	104	20
2021	6th	566	23.6	457	19.0	109	24
2022	4th	608	25.3	489	20.4	119	24
2023	11th	543	24.7	522	23.7	21	22
2024	17th	283	20.2	404	28.9	-121	14
2009	8th	476	21.6	473	21.5	3	22

We should get the coach we had in 2016 or 2020.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

umm I didnt misunderstand what I wrote myself, I know what I wrote and meant and it had nothing to do with pathways.

Where did you get this 4-5 year rebuild figure then?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Win rate is fine if you were a struggling team looking to move up the ladder because it’s a tangible improvement. However, eventually a playing group or coaching setup will reach a point where that’s not enough and you need to be challenging for premierships or something has to change.

What shows you’re challenging for premierships? What’s the objective measure other than premierships?

 

[Tiger5150]

Where did you get this 4-5 year rebuild figure then?

It is my opinion that your rebuild will take 3-4 years. You need to change the front office, you will pick a new coach this year, it will take him a year to work out the wheat from the chaff in the squad, it will take him a minimum of 18months to clear out the squad and rebuild it...3-4 years at best.

 

[lucablight]

What shows you’re challenging for premierships? What’s the objective measure other than premierships?

Constantly improving on where you finished previously.

 

[Noise]

Constantly improving on where you finished previously.

I've been reliably informed that we are still currently improving.

 

[Pazza]

It is my opinion that your rebuild will take 3-4 years. You need to change the front office, you will pick a new coach this year, it will take him a year to work out the wheat from the chaff in the squad, it will take him a minimum of 18months to clear out the squad and rebuild it...3-4 years at best.

nah, we got quality in the key positions, some good young players coming through.

better call it a re tooling than a re build

 

[Noise]

nah, we got quality in the key positions,

Quality that has taken us to last place.

 

[Pazza]

Quality that has taken us to last place.

i know this team hasnt performed well this year but you cant deny that moving forward we got a strong core of players. we need some better coaching, improve our defense, so yes we need a few new players but the idea that we need to get rid of everyone and arnet going to see any success over a next few year i just dont believe

 

[Noise]

i know this team hasnt performed well this year but you cant deny that moving forward we got a strong core of players. we need some better coaching, improve our defense, so yes we need a few new players but the idea that we need to get rid of everyone and arnet going to see any success over a next few year i just dont believe

I am going to deny we have a strong core of players. Most of our current players are either ageing, regressing or just flat out reserve graders. With the decline due to age of most of our core players along with their long term contracts we are going to be in a world of pain for some time.

 

[Tiger5150]

nah, we got quality in the key positions, some good young players coming through.

better call it a re tooling than a re build

You guys have more than enough tools in your squad

 

[JokerEel]

We should get the coach we had in 2016 or 2020.

Just if we could lose all our points and have the season interrupted by COVID. .

 

[Pazza]

I am going to deny we have a strong core of players. Most of our current players are either ageing, regressing or just flat out reserve graders. With the decline due to age of most of our core players along with their long term contracts we are going to be in a world of pain for some time.

we have Moses, Brown, Hopgood, Penisini, Lomax, Gutherson, RCG, Talented youngers like MA and Blaize. we got 16 players off contract at the end of 2025.

all im saying is we dont need a 4 - 5 year 'rebuild' to be successful. if things go our way like we nail the head coach hire, the young guys we have turn into serviceable FGers and we sign another decent player. theres no reason we cant be successful next year.

 

[Pazza]

You guys have more than enough tools in your squad

why dont you go to the tigers forum and talk about your multi decade rebuild, looks like youre going to have to find a replacement for stefano

 

[Tiger5150]

why dont you go to the tigers forum and talk about your multi decade rebuild, looks like youre going to have to find a replacement for stefano

I had never thought of that....thanks Pazza