Rumours and Stuff

[Obscene Assassin]

True and with more teams in the pipe line, there are going to be some decent players being paid like stars.

It's so important from a cap efficiency point of view that we get a juniour development in order.

It's semantics as I'm sure this is what you mean but I think that should read junior retention. Our junior development in these last few years has been better than previous ones, we've got our 4th player from last year's SG Ball winning team debuting this week and there's still a few others I reckon we'll have debuting in the next few. Our problem is retaining them.

We have a host of players that were in our junior rep teams now at other clubs, not just because other Sydney clubs are after them, 3 of them will be in Canberra jerseys next year; 2 of said players were captains in our junior rep teams. We knew their talent, we knew their leadership capabilities but for whatever reason we did not have them signed up long term like other Sydney clubs are able to do with their juniors.

 

[Stevie]

Sivo
Paulo
Lane
All told they are free to leave. They are not in the new coaches plans I hope.
Brown can f**k off too but you don’t need to tell him as he quite literally has it written in his contract.

 

[JokerEel]

By ‘we’ I mean people who understand cause and effect.

"Don't understand"

 

[JokerEel]

so we have 4 players now on over $1m a season

Moses
Paulo
Gutho
Brown

and RCG not far behind

Thats 50% of our cap taken up on 5 players.

No wonder we struggle for quality depth because we can only afford bog average back ups

Paulo
Gutho


Would be my 2 to let go

 

[Oscarman]

RIP Robbo. One of the few Runts players who wasn't a complete merkin.

 

[hindy111]

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Average salary is $400k ffs

An average player isn't getting 400k.
Min wage is 130k

You then have elite who are on 1mill plus
And then the very good players who demand 600+
These guys bring the average up. An average player like Simmonson for example would get around 250k. 300k MAX

Average players would get between $250-300k

 

[hindy111]

I’d believe $1.2M for Moses. He’s our most important player and it’s only 10% of the salary cap.

No. Wrong again. I'd say 1.1 Max.
I've heard him questioned about the 1.2 and he has said I wish it was that much. Wouldn't suprise if it's only 1 mill.

Penaut

 

[Twizzle]

so much speculation in that article from their so called person "authorised" to comment and I don't believe those wages for a minute

good on Mitch for ripping into them though

 

[EelEtric]

so much speculation in that article from their so called person "authorised" to comment and I don't believe those wages for a minute

good on Mitch for ripping into them though

Who did he rip into?

 

[Twizzle]

Who did he rip into?

I wasn't there mate but if you believe the article it would depend on how you interpret it

 

[King-Gutho94]

Who did he rip into?

The Referees and the bunker would have been the pure frustration the other night.

Gough didnt want a bar of Gutho or Moses all night.

Thats where no one outside our room comment would have been directed at 15 mins after feeling like getting shafted all night.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It's semantics as I'm sure this is what you mean but I think that should read junior retention. Our junior development in these last few years has been better than previous ones, we've got our 4th player from last year's SG Ball winning team debuting this week and there's still a few others I reckon we'll have debuting in the next few. Our problem is retaining them.

We have a host of players that were in our junior rep teams now at other clubs, not just because other Sydney clubs are after them, 3 of them will be in Canberra jerseys next year; 2 of said players were captains in our junior rep teams. We knew their talent, we knew their leadership capabilities but for whatever reason we did not have them signed up long term like other Sydney clubs are able to do with their juniors.

Signing them long term requires a pathway (i.e. cap space at their position) through to big salaries. The merkins we’ve lost have had big money merkins in front of them, much like Isaiya Katoa at Penrith.

 

[EelEtric]

Y

The Referees and the bunker would have been the pure frustration the other night.

Gough didnt want a bar of Gutho or Moses all night.

Thats where no one outside our room comment would have been directed at 15 mins after feeling like getting shafted all night.

Yeah, I dont buy into media spin that he was having a go at Club management.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

An average player isn't getting 400k.
Min wage is 130k

You then have elite who are on 1mill plus
And then the very good players who demand 600+
These guys bring the average up. An average player like Simmonson for example would get around 250k. 300k MAX

Average players would get between $250-300k

I agree the mean salary is different to the median, but what do you mean by an ‘average player’? Over two thirds of your squad won’t be expected to play 80 minutes in first grade every week, so the ones who do are all above average players by definition. Penaut

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No. Wrong again. I'd say 1.1 Max.
I've heard him questioned about the 1.2 and he has said I wish it was that much. Wouldn't suprise if it's only 1 mill.

Penaut

Yeah I’ve lied about my salary to coworkers as well.

 

[Avenger]

Yeah I’ve lied about my salary to coworkers as well.

Not in the army you didn't. It's all public knowledge.

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

Who did he rip into?

I reckon Gutho copped a massive spray from him in the sheds

 

[Soto]

Brailey seriously the bloke is as slow as Lussick

Slower than a wet week

 

[EelEtric]

I reckon Gutho copped a massive spray from him in the sheds

I reckon he would have aimed it at all 16 players - making sure they knew that they were the ones responsible for the losses, the missed tackles, the dropped balls, etc.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Signing them long term requires a pathway (i.e. cap space at their position) through to big salaries. The merkins we’ve lost have had big money merkins in front of them, much like Isaiya Katoa at Penrith.

Which big salary player did we have in front of Michael Gabrael (centre) when we lost him after the 2022 season given he was only 17 in that year? Only one I can think of is Waqa Blake who was on the outer around that time. Did Canberra not have big money forwards: Josh Papalii, Joseph Tapine, Elliott Whitehead in front of Trey Mooney when they signed him? When we lost him we would have had Paulo, Gillard and Matterson.

This can be true for Ethan Sanders but players in non-spine positions should be much easier to keep. How have the sharks got Stonestreet signed up until the end of next year despite having 2 long term wingers already contracted with one being a NZ national winger? This is one off the top of my head, I could find more if I went through the contract lists.

Our management is slow at recruitment and retention, this is because it is a democratic process and this is the result. We have 5 people in the R&R committee, for mine this is not sustainable. There should be 1 voice at the table, my opinion the head coach, and the rest in the committee should be using their skills to get the job done for them so they get their targets. From what I've seen since the restructure this has largely failed us.