Rumours and Stuff

[The Predictor]

I’d say put the cue in the rack , throw our hands up in the air and walk to the light

 

[The Predictor]

Yes I have. I disagree with some of it. Doesn't give you the right to be a complete merkin.

But she’s okay to do that? a little sexist don’t u think? no need for me to justify anything to you!

 

[Pazza]

Bad luck Charlie, you're under contract. Atleast Sanders and Talagi were off contract.

 

[pazzaeel]

Happy for everyone in the team to leave if they don't want to be here. Replace them players who love to play and try their best every week.

It is going to take a while to get the rot out of the club.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Someone explain, his mates are all leaving for different clubs- so why would he need or want to leave unless it was with all of them.

Also he has basically said six clubs have rung him I hope the club is now talking to the NRL about getting his manager de registered and also those clubs fined.

Indeed!

They are not allowed to talk to him until Nov 1 2025...

 

[BotanyBorn&Bred]

Parra is dead.
Everyone is jumping ship.
NOBODY wants to play for Ryles.
Instead of sacking the board, and some dud players, you sack the coach that all the players loved, and you've won one game since.
No sympathy at all.

 

[Pazza]

Well there must be a benefit to clubs to agree to player options or the likes of the Storm wouldn’t also have them. They are something the club gives to the player in lieu of something else they normally provide. That something else is an amount of cash that would otherwise inflate the player’s contract, particularly under the salary cap.

The Storm have one in Harry grant.

If the PO was such a slam dunk concept, why don't you see more of them???

 

[Gronk]

Incorrect….people just don’t agree with ur fluff, maybe go back to ur archives and check

Ah, The Predictor again.

I predict you will never stop being time wasting knob.

I’d say put the cue in the rack , throw our hands up in the air and walk to the light

Good idea. You first.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Is it true you have at least 5 players including brown and Moses with exit clauses in there contracts if true you should direct your anger at management as you may lose many more players

They’re not exit clauses, they are options to stay an extra year. Without the options they would still be off contract. It’s not like it was a choice between a one year contract (for Talagi) plus PO vs a two year contract. Talagi’s earning potential was unknown when he signed this deal, but potentially very high. Why would he want to be locked in for unders beyond this year? He wanted a one year deal, not two. If he accepted a multi year deal it would’ve been for an arbitrarily high price to compensate for the opportunity cost of being out of the market. That arbitrarily high price would’ve represented high risk for us. So they came to an agreement of one year, presumably on peanuts (because our 2024 cap is tight) with a PO if he gets injured or shits himself. A two year deal is a completely different calculation, with big risk for either side. Who knew how good he was going to be in 2025? Was he going to be worth $600k or only $200k? And how do the two parties agree to share the risk?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

But she’s okay to do that? a little sexist don’t u think? no need for me to justify anything to you!

Be a decent human and argue the point without the personal insults. Most people on here can do it. Merkin.

 

[The Predictor]

Ah, The Predictor again.

I predict you will never stop being time wasting knob.


Good idea. You first.

Unlike your petty little self !!!!

 

[The Predictor]

Be a decent human and argue the point without the personal insults. Sexist? Not even close. Merkin.

You are cherry picking mate…how long u been on this site, u are discriminatory towards me, and challenging my “humanity ” lol but no one else’s , I have read some absolute horror on here, but u choose to singal me, how about u mind ur own business knt that’s code for merkin correct? because you’ve called me that several times

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Storm have one in Harry grant.

If the PO was such a slam dunk concept, why don't you see more of them???

It’s not a slam dunk, it’s an incentive. It carries risks and benefits. I’d say it is used to minimise salary cap impact for highly paid players or clubs with little room to move under the cap. The downside is the risk that a player falls off a cliff and you’re stuck with him. The downside isn’t that he leaves or negotiates an upgrade.

 

[JokerEel]

If you are talking about Talagi, no. Without a PO other clubs could have started talking to him in Nov 2023 as his contract expires Nov '24. The PO gave us more time to try and keep him which we did by 1) putting him in FG and 2) giving him an offer higher than the PO in November last year. He sat on that and decided to do nothing until the PO lapsed, at which time he was then able to talk to other clubs - note, he could have rejected the PO earlier but by not doing that he was able to display his talent in FG for longer and thus potentially attract more interest from other clubs.

So basically he could have held out on his player option until as long as he wanted and made us lose any other potential signing...
Then decline it and sign with another club.

Nah that's awesome

 

[EelEtric]

So basically he could have held out on his player option until as long as he wanted and made us lose any other potential signing...
Then decline it and sign with another club.

Nah that's awesome

Not for as long as he wanted... they normally have an expiry date in them (accept it or it lapses), which I think was about 2 months ago.

 

[JokerEel]

Parra is dead.
Everyone is jumping ship.
NOBODY wants to play for Ryles.
Instead of sacking the board, and some dud players, you sack the coach that all the players loved, and you've won one game since.
No sympathy at all.

BA needed to be sacked hasn't improved the club enough to win a premiership and basically had ingrained himself in with the players so we could not sack him.

 

[JokerEel]

Not for as long as he wanted... they normally have an expiry date in them (accept it or it lapses), which I think was about 2 months ago.

So as long as he wanted while inside the contracted date.

Also don't think know if you are telling us how it is..

 

[Poupou Escobar]

We need to look at how clubs like Penrith convinced Luai and Martin to hang around in reserve grade, Storm have done it with Faalogo, Broncos with Mozer. It can't just be money. Very few players are ready to be consistent 1st graders at 19, so we need to figure how to keep them at the club until they are.
Are these clubs offering more off field opportunities, better facilities, a better chance at success, better coaching? Is it just the player managers that our players happen to have? Whatever it is we aren't doing it well so we need to figure it out.

It depends on the player, not the club. And since the Dolphins came into the comp there’s even fewer first graders available per club. That means more opportunities (and money) for nuffies and youngsters.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No it's not true we have exit clauses as an exit clause would give the player the right to leave (exit) mid-contract.

We have pre-defined extension clauses which the club or the player can decide to accept prior to their current contract expiring.

If they choose not to invoke the pre-defined extension clause, they become free agents 12 months from when their current contract expires, or later if there is an expiry date on the extension clause that goes beyond November on their last year.

So, Brown hasn't signed a contract until 2030 or whatever. He has signed a contract until the end of '25 or '26 and has a pre-defined extension if he chooses to accept it (and then another one, etc).

Talagi chose not to accept the pre-defined extension in his current contract and go to the open market. We knew this month's ago when it expired.

ffs

 

[BotanyBorn&Bred]

BA needed to be sacked hasn't improved the club enough to win a premiership and basically had ingrained himself in with the players so we could not sack him.

You just needed to sack a few dud forwards like Paulo, Matterson
Who is Ryles?
Does any of the current crop of players know him?
Have any of the young'uns even heard of him?
Arthur wasn't the problem