Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

Agree.Not much creativity.

ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The likelihood of players performing better and to pay scale is highly unlikely and the likelihood of us having to replace them in 2026 even as far back as 2022 was high means I guess you’re correct and we’re all in on the “we’ll just buy more players” to replace them angle.
This is despite the fact most successful teams have a core of club developed players. There is zero development plan here. We had our strongest junior team in a long time and probably the 3 most influential players from there will be gone for a variety of reasons. At least Sanders leaving makes sense, he wasn’t going to be in front of Moses/Brown easily. But Talagi & Mrthur had clear paths to NRL.

Arthur for sure is a massive loss, especially as he was already on the books for future years. Talagi didn’t really have a path if he didn’t want to play fullback. I thought he was a poor fit for us going forward unless we could turn him into a fullback. It could probably be done, since he already has the goods in attack, but how many defensive howlers would we need to put up with before he provided NRL level safety at the back?

 

[TheRam]

That's not the point I was making. I was responding to an assertion that our defense had been horrid for most of BA's tenure. I was just presenting evidence that while it was far from competition leading, it was 'average' on average. Not horrid, in the main (thoug a couple of years were pretty bad).

As I said in the post, our lack of innovation in attack would be my larger criticism of the BA years. And that affects your defense, because it affects the circumstances and position in which your opponents get the ball.

Considering the quality of the squad for at least half of his tenure here the teams defence was very ordinary to say the least. Even beyond just the points against. What it doesn't show is the amount of endless overlaps and inability to shore up the middle(win the wrestle) or the inability to slide when necessary and stay connected as a high quality defensive unit does.

This then also stifles and limits what energy you have left in the tank and the type of creativity you can play with and all we ended up with was as the high risk champions of the offload. Even to this day I still don't think players like Moses and Brown are playing as well in attack as they should be due to the years of ineptitude from the coaching staff around them.

I reckon if they were playing for the Storm for example they both would be way better than they are right now and display so much more in calmness, creativity and game management. For example you wouldn't see so many wasted play the balls which Moses has no idea what to do next so just plays it under to a player coming through, in essence just a settler and wasted play just so he can reset and hopefully workout something on the next play.

Don't get me wrong, yes sometimes you want a settler and it makes sense, but he uses them way to often because it's an easy play and he can get his hand on the ball so it means he is contributing, but unless the defence makes a booboo then it just leads to nothing and we then hope that the defence has gotten out of shape a little on the next play and we can get some sort of positive result then. But we almost never do.

Watch how Bellamy has transformed Hughes from a lazy and fat, but with some talent fullback, but not as much as Moses who has also been playing in the halves all his life into probably the second best half in the game. Watch how Hughes is always trailing someone in attack and receives a pass or offload and make a break and then finds himself in space. He doesn't just wait or parks himself as much as Moses does. They are both runners of the ball and I believe talent wise Moses is ahead, but knowledge and education Hughes in my opinion is superior.

So yes I wouldn't give Potates a pass on our attack either and if you go back and read my many posts on that you will see that I am way past you on that too MOFO!

Keep up. This is serious business.

 

[Black Panther]

Hard to drop Luai after this series. If his form maintains at the Tigers he'll be in the side

Well if Moses leads Parra to a Wooden Spoon, he is the one to go.

 

[gaffer]

My tip is the Glacier will be gone in 2025.

It will only take 1 or 2 disagreements for Ryles to go to the board and say this relationship isn't working.

And we will get a new HOF.

The board will be balls deep into Ryles moving forward because the decision to appoint him will define there tenures and the next 10 years.

MON will be expendable

why wait just rsole him NOW

 

[84 Baby]

If Talagi wanted to play '6' then his path was blocked just like Sanders.

Arthur for sure is a massive loss, especially as he was already on the books for future years. Talagi didn’t really have a path if he didn’t want to play fullback. I thought he was a poor fit for us going forward unless we could turn him into a fullback. It could probably be done, since he already has the goods in attack, but how many defensive howlers would we need to put up with before he provided NRL level safety at the back?

His future is in centres. Or was. Moot point now.

 

[King-Gutho94]

why wait just rsole him NOW

I would but this club is always 12 months behind the curve.

I can picture it happening in 12 months. The board are clueless but if Ryles blows up about MON interference he will be gone.

 

[Wally21]

I reckon they just took it easy over the off season. Morale would be pretty low as well. At full time of round three it was looking good. Then we lost Moses, threw away the Tigers win, and then just capitulated for several weeks. It doesn’t say much about our leadership group.

Leadership is non-existent. Call him a dirty player, call him whatever you like, but JWH for example is a forward leader, something we have missed dearly for years now

 

[84 Baby]

Well if Moses leads Parra to a Wooden Spoon, he is the one to go.

One of the three has a winning record in Origin. Can you guess which?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Leadership is non-existent. Call him a dirty player, call him whatever you like, but JWH for example is a forward leader, something we have missed dearly for years now

Grubs are only grubs when they aren't your grub.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Pou honestly can you post less often. Just put it all in one post literally every 2nd post is yours the last 10 pages it’s annoying mate.

I take it you've only read the last 10 pages?

This thread is 9207 pages long.
@Poupou Escobar what's your guess on how many of those pages would be just your posts?

 

[Gherkin]

Well if Moses leads Parra to a Wooden Spoon, he is the one to go.

Moses has barely played this year. Our position on the ladder this year will have no impact on whether he plays SOO next year

 

[84 Baby]

Leadership is non-existent. Call him a dirty player, call him whatever you like, but JWH for example is a forward leader, something we have missed dearly for years now

The first Scum game when they were going nowhere then Katoa steamrolled Makatoa and Scum scored shortly after to essentially end the game, commentators asked who in our team was the was going to stand up like Katoa did… 09 Fui would’ve been the last one I think who would’ve tried to

 

[84 Baby]

I take it you've only read the last 10 pages?

This thread is 9207 pages long.
@Poupou Escobar what's your guess on how many of those pages would be just your posts?

Only the 207. The other 9000 were TheRam Manifesto

 

[eels_fan]

This video that pops up on my phone each time I reload LU is so annoying

At least yesterday you could hit the x and get it off the screen, now the x is gone so it’s just bloody there blocking the content

what the f**k

 

[Hindmarshisgod2]

At least yesterday you could hit the x and get it off the screen, now the x is gone so it’s just bloody there blocking the content

what the f**k

Yes . It's gotten worse...and to think they are trying to fix it...lol

Is MON the I.T guy at LU???

 

[Soren Lorenson]

The first Scum game when they were going nowhere then Katoa steamrolled Makatoa and Scum scored shortly after to essentially end the game, commentators asked who in our team was the was going to stand up like Katoa did… 09 Fui would’ve been the last one I think who would’ve tried to

Manu Mau

 

[DaveMc]

Yes . It's gotten worse...and to think they are trying to fix it...lol

Is MON the I.T guy at LU???

The IT guy’s got a PO, so he’s taking his time deciding what to do

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I take it you've only read the last 10 pages?

This thread is 9207 pages long.
@Poupou Escobar what's your guess on how many of those pages would be just your posts?

85%

 

[EelEtric]

His future is in centres. Or was. Moot point now.

His future with us was in the centres, but maybe he didnt want to play there?