Rumours and Stuff

[84 Baby]

I think it's up tot he NRL to prove that they didn't arrange it.
The club may provide some proof initially, but who's to say that it's actually legit.

Definitely a can of worms. There needs to be a salary cap in place, but not really sure on how best to enforce it.
I'm on the side of making player contracts public. At least then we have an idea of how much each player is earning (under the cap).

It frustrates me because it’s in everyone’s interest (except those who are receiving an illegal TPA but don’t actually deserve a TPA).
I conceived one years ago where you have:
1. the basic salary cap with payments from club to player, almost identical to current form.

2. legit TPAs that player/club/sponsor prove to NRL are legit. The main intention here is for your big, national TV ones (Chinry Gatorade or whatever it was) but with those there’s assumptions they follow player regardless of team and that there is a certain degree of league constructed TPA I.e. without the performance of the NRL at large, the player wouldn’t have received individual recognition, so with that the value of the TPA is lodged and all the other clubs receive a credit on the next cap to a split amount equal to the TPA I.e. if Chinry’s TPA was $16, the other clubs get $1 credit each.

3. the illegitimate TPA cap is where it starts to fall apart because it’s almost an all-in for a club the second you step into it. I had it based around if you’re into this cap level then you have restrictions on dealing with contracts (similar to NBA) where you can resign players alright but you can’t sign external players without first shedding commensurate base salary plus the value of the illegitimate TPAs (which is where it can fall down).

 

[hindy111]

Don't think Grieg will be any more than project player. Will be gone 2026 imo.

Give Ryles a chance with him. BA was a career killer for many

 

[Stagger eel]

Give Ryles a chance with him. BA was a career killer for many

to be fair on him, he also made careers...and some he made can probably demand up to a mill a year at other clubs.

 

[emjaycee]

to be fair on him, he also made careers...and some he made can probably demand up to a mill a year at other clubs.

Hugger

 

[oldmancraigy]

I believe you were asking if an Eels board member's company could provide a TPA to a player, is that right?
I don't think that would take much investigation to prove that it's not 'at arm's length'.

I don't think I asked that question at all.

I offered an observation on the way arms length requirements are *possibly* circumvented (in many areas).

 

[oldmancraigy]

I think it's up tot he NRL to prove that they didn't arrange it.
The club may provide some proof initially, but who's to say that it's actually legit.

Definitely a can of worms. There needs to be a salary cap in place, but not really sure on how best to enforce it.
I'm on the side of making player contracts public. At least then we have an idea of how much each player is earning (under the cap).

Why would the club have to offer proof if they aren't organising it?

Maybe the answer is to raise the cap, and (as you say!!) make contracts more transparent to the public (ie, leak the $ values), and scrap TPAs, just make the club arrange sponsorships to offset the salary. Yes, on one hand it gives a competitive advantage to those who can find sponsors, but on the other hand clubs who can't find the TPAs can spend the same (if they can afford it).

Make it complex, but tell the fans - and introduce trades and a draft!!

None of this will ever happen....

 

[Gronk]

 

[Matty Bhoy]

Who knows but I can’t see it happening.

 

[chiefy1]

to be fair on him, he also made careers...and some he made can probably demand up to a mill a year at other clubs.

A million a season?

 

[Pazza]

Hahaha but Ivan made a promise to blaize

 

[Rocket man]

well that was my issue with this whole "arm's length" bullshit

Does the NRL have to prove that the club arranged it, or does the club have to prove that it didn't?

either way it's a big can of worms

I think the club can introduce the sponsor of the TPA to the players manager.

 

[Gronk]

I think the club can introduce the sponsor of the TPA to the players manager.

Well isn't that murky.

 

[Rocket man]

Heard on SEN radio we mite have signed
Josh Papalii from the dogs.

 

[Stagger eel]

A million a season?

you don’t think Brown can commend a mill a season?

Guth would of easily got it during his last deal and in actual fact the dolphins were prepared to pay it..

you could also argue that Moses came as 600k player to a million during his time..

 

[Stagger eel]

So you can probably argue he ruined careers didnt improve careers
and made careers …

im sure plenty of coaches did that.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Heard on SEN radio we mite have signed
Josh Papalii from the dogs.

*Joash

not to be a pedantic merkin. And interesting if true. He's mostly a fullback if I'm not mistaken.
Played in last years u19 SOO with Sanders etc.

here's an article from 12 months ago

“Joash Papalii is a talented kid. He’s featured more at fullback but I see him as having the ability to not play at fullback but at five-eighth or hooker if needed,” Hartigan said.

“He could be a very good utility for us. He’s very skilful, quick off the mark. He was still eligible for SG Ball this year, but when he trained with the NRL side Ciraldo made the decision that he stayed with the NRL, that’s a huge vote of confidence. That’s why he started in reserve grade last year.

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[Incorrect]

Hahaha but Ivan made a promise to blaize

If by some miraculous turn of events Hunt does end up at Penrith, he wouldn't be playing in the halves... He's a 9 and I'm sure Ivan is a smart enough coach to play him accordingly if he had him at his disposal... no impact on Blaize whatsoever...

 

[Gronk]

Heard on SEN radio we mite have signed
Josh Papalii from the dogs.

*Joash

not to be a pedantic merkin. And interesting if true. He's mostly a fullback if I'm not mistaken.

Swings and round abouts if we did. We lose Sanders from this bunch and pick up the back up fullback behind Chevy Stewart. Says his position is 1 or 6 BTW.

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[Soren Lorenson]

Swings and round abouts if we did. We lose Sanders from this bunch and pick up the back up fullback behind Chevy Stewart. Says his position is 1 or 6 BTW.

u19 Origin players contracted to - OurFootyTeam

u19 Origin players contracted to Author : Michael Carayannis and David Riccio NewsCorp Sport u19 Origin players contracted to State of Origin 2023: Every Queensland and NSW U19s player’s NRL contract status The future is looking bright for NSW and Queensland, as some of the hottest young NRL...

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Judging from the quote I just added to my post, he might be a replacement for Arthurs (not the bald one). Whatever the case, if it turns out to be true then I fully support this signing.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I noticed Gutho has changed his instagram profile pic today to him jumping up in the air pumped up celebrating a TRY in a Parra Jersey.

Previously he was just sitting on the bench staring into camera.

May mean nothing but interesting timing he has decided to change it all of sudden to that.