Rumours and Stuff

[Zoso]

Perth Bears comes in basically will help kill off the Western Force

I would then hope PVL brings in the South Island side in NZ as the 20th team to further push rugby league over across the ditch to get that NZ talent flowing through even more.

Its clear the Warriors are now the biggest ticket in town in NZ over Rugby what was it 12 sellouts at Mt Smart.

And all the kiwi expats that have moved over to Australia just jump on the rugby league bandwagon anyway and have done so for 20 years.

The kiwis i know are more pumped when State of Origin is on these days then whenever the All-blacks play the dullabies.

Rugby in this country seems to be in a death spiral. The worse it goes domestically the less interest there is for international fixtures, which means fewer kids want to play domestically, and so on.
And the only real avenue for talent was private schools and after blocking league for a long time, NSW private schools are now running league teams as well aren’t they?

 

[Gronk]

Rugby in this country seems to be in a death spiral. The worse it goes domestically the less interest there is for international fixtures, which means fewer kids want to play domestically, and so on.
And the only real avenue for talent was private schools and after blocking league for a long time, NSW private schools are now running league teams as well aren’t they?

Aussie rich listers unite for $100m rugby war chest

'The first anywhere in the world'

www.nine.com.au

 

[hineyrulz]

lol

 

[Zoso]

Joey was a freak still the best player i have seen in my life.

I get why there is still conjecture on his immortal status when it comes to his off-field BS.

But on-field he was incredible he had the ball on a dime with his kicks weather it was a punt, banana, grubber, 40/20.

Passing game was no different.

Goal kicking and FG clutch kicking was incredible.

And he was an awesome defender which is often not stated enough. He could tackle and you rarely saw him get trampled over by bigger blokes.

Great player and yeah, fortunately for him they don’t give out awards for being a good sport.
I remember the game where he broke JT’s point scoring record against us at Parra stadium but Newcastle lost the game.
The club wanted to mark the occasion by giving him the game ball. The petulant twat was sulking in the sheds and refused to come out as JT (our coach at the time) was standing on the field waiting to give him the game ball.

 

[King-Gutho94]

Great player and yeah, fortunately for him they don’t give out awards for being a good sport.
I remember the game where he broke JT’s point scoring record against us at Parra stadium but Newcastle lost the game.
The club wanted to mark the occasion by giving him the game ball. The petulant twat was sulking in the sheds and refused to come out as JT (our coach at the time) was standing on the field waiting to give him the game ball.

Yeah i was there on the 30m line and saw him walk off.

I said to my parents as i was 11 or 12 then - Joey has spat the dummy after we flogged them and walked into the sheds.

The Hayne Plane announced himself as a player that night with 4 tries.

 

[Zoso]

Aussie rich listers unite for $100m rugby war chest

'The first anywhere in the world'

www.nine.com.au

Interesting…Not only does the game need to service and repay its debts, meet players salaries etc, it would now have to provide to investors some return comparable to other investments on a risk adjusted basis.
That’s a big ask for a game that’s gone backwards financially and with viewers.
Let’s see how well the fund is subscribed. I’ll go out on a limb and say it’s a good opportunity for rich dudes that want to get some capital losses to offset their capital gains.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yawnion in this country is as dead as the hair follicles on Bea Arthur's head.

They can't even land a decent FTA deal, RL's next TV deal will be enough to kill off Yawnion in this country well and truly.

 

[Incorrect]

A ridiculous statement from someone who has proven time and time again they lack an actual clue on RL

Not just NRL... Check out the NBA Talk thread. Apparently he's going to get tickets to watch the New York "Nicks" at Madison Square Garden...

Nicks - lol FMD.....

 

[lucablight]

That’s right. It illuminated the absurdity of the statement. Like when someone says “No matter what, the club did the right thing”, the best response is “No matter what, the club did the wrong thing”. Both claims are absurd, but it’s the second one that shone a light on the first.

I wasn’t trying to be right the first time.

That just sounds like you’re trying to walk back a clumsily worded statement.

 

[hineyrulz]

Not just NRL... Check out the NBA Talk thread. Apparently he's going to get tickets to watch the New York "Nicks" at Madison Square Garden...

Nicks - lol FMD.....

The Nicks are a Greek team.

 

[Incorrect]

The Nicks are a Greek team.

 

[Gronk]

Not just NRL... Check out the NBA Talk thread. Apparently he's going to get tickets to watch the New York "Nicks" at Madison Square Garden...

Nicks - lol FMD.....

The Nicks are a Greek team.

Mean girls and trying their best today. LMAO.

 

[hineyrulz]

Mean girls and trying their best today. LMAO.

Are we a faction or mean girls ffs?? Make up your mind geez you're as bad as a female.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don’t know how much is down to coaching (if you mean that in a tactical sense) but evidently some/a significant degree is down to the coach since the coach picks his assistants, the style he wants to play, season planning and has say in recruitment and retention. All those things add up, defensive results being one important outcome.
BA was probably too attached to certain players, staff and his preferences of how the team should play.
Ryles has shown with motivation and some sort of specific intent it’s possible to move players on, attract different staff and players with a view to playing a different style.
That style, the tactics, and the results aren’t in yet but it’s very exciting!!

I’m very excited too, as I am before every new season, but I wasn’t waiting for a new coach to be excited. We proved in 2019 you don’t need to sack the coach to improve dramatically, though it must be easier to clean the squad out with a new coach in place.

However, I believe our biggest improvement next year will come from the signing of Lomax, which occurred before Ryles even got the job. Twenty carries a week from Lomax will provide massive benefits to the team, including the pressure on our defence.

 

[Suitman]

I’m very excited too, as I am before every new season, but I wasn’t waiting for a new coach to be excited.

Of course you weren't.
You were only excited because everyone else was and you'd found another reason to argue with everyone.

And then you went back to 2019 to create examples to argue more.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

That just sounds like you’re trying to walk back a clumsily worded statement.

I didn’t come up with the wording. “The grass is always greener” is from a famous proverb ffs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Of course you weren't.
You were only excited because everyone else was and you'd found another reason to argue with everyone.

And then you went back to 2019 to create examples to argue more.

Suity talking about his second favourite subject again. If it’s not food it’s Pou. Poor Suitman.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I don’t know how much is down to coaching (if you mean that in a tactical sense) but evidently some/a significant degree is down to the coach since the coach picks his assistants, the style he wants to play, season planning and has say in recruitment and retention. All those things add up, defensive results being one important outcome.
BA was probably too attached to certain players, staff and his preferences of how the team should play.
Ryles has shown with motivation and some sort of specific intent it’s possible to move players on, attract different staff and players with a view to playing a different style.
That style, the tactics, and the results aren’t in yet but it’s very exciting!!

Spot on with everything you say here.

Our defence had been in decline since 2021. But the amount of times we capitulated under BA was infuriating and never got addressed.

We conceded 40 points 23 times under BA an average of once every 11.47 games during his tenure so that's on average twice a season we had 40 put on us.

And we also got pumped by 30+ point losses on 21 occasions so basically the same average as the 40+ points in a game

It simply isn't acceptable under any coach.

Our overall PPG in Defence in 264 games under BA was 21.26. Which isnt good enough to win a premiership.

I'll compare that to Brian Smith who had a similar tenure 243 games we conceded 40+ points on just 9 occasions.

And it wasn't until 2003 for it happen the first time which was Brian's 168th game in charge.

BA already 14 games by then we had conceded 40+ points or more in his first 168 games.

Coach	Games	Average PPG Conceded	Conceded 40+ points	Conceded 50+ points	30+ Point losses
Brad Arthur	264	21.26	23	6	21
Brian Smith	243	18.53	9	3	7

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Spot on with everything you say here.

Our defence had been in decline since 2021. But the amount of times we capitulated under BA was infuriating and never got addressed.

We conceded 40 points 23 times under BA an average of once every 11.47 games during his tenure so that's on average twice a season we had 40 put on us.

And we also got pumped by 30+ point losses on 21 occasions so basically the same average as the 40+ points in a game

It simply isn't acceptable under any coach.

Our overall PPG in Defence in 264 games under BA was 21.26. Which isnt good enough to win a premiership.

I'll compare that to Brian Smith who had a similar tenure 243 games we conceded 40+ points on just 9 occasions.

And it wasn't until 2003 for it happen the first time which was Brian's 168th game in charge.

BA already 14 games by then we had conceded 40+ points or more in his first 168 games.

Coach	Games	Average PPG Conceded	Conceded 40+ points	Conceded 50+ points	30+ Point losses
Brad Arthur	264	21.26	23	6	21
Brian Smith	243	18.53	9	3	7

And yet we won so many games and were one of only seven teams to play in a grand final since 2019. Were the floggings a sign Arthur didn’t understand rugby league or a side effect of the strategy we used to try and compete with the NRL super clubs?

We obviously played a very different, high risk style to most teams, which owed itself to the differently structured roster. This style meant we could upset the big teams if we controlled the ball. On the other hand, when we didn’t control the ball we could get steamrolled, which we saw happen plenty of times.

You can argue we should’ve played like Penrith, because we saw it work for them, but their four straight wins shows they are insanely well resourced. If we had tried to play like them we might’ve just been a poor imitation of them. It’s possible we would never have beaten them in the past five years. Or the Storm. It’s possible we are now gearing up to become exactly this, a poor imitation of a well resourced club. But the new CoE and all the new full time pathways staff are a fair indicator that more resources have been unlocked. It makes sense now that we’re done funding our portion of the facility in Kellyville. There is more in the budget to pay football staff.

 

[JokerEel]

I assume this guy wasn't at the fan day!