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gaffer

Juniors
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Do you find it odd the Storm can keep
Pezet ( offered about 600k elsewhere) Faaalogo ( Would get 700k open market)
Wishart ( 500k + start spot) all as basically back ups.
It's absolutely wild when their spine has the best hooker +5/8 in game along with a fullback and Halfback on around 900k each.
I'm unsure how the NRL and fans don't find this is fishy. It wreaks.
the rest of the team play for just the love of playing for the storm
 

Zoso

Juniors
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306
I believe the 2025 squad has greater depth. The departure of Clint Gutherson will introduce a new dynamic to our play, reminiscent of when Jarryd Hayne left for the NFL in 2014.

I haven’t been this excited about a season since 2005, with Tim Smith’s arrival and other astute acquisitions. Interestingly, after missing the finals in 2003 and 2004, much like our current situation, we embarked on a strong run from 2005 up to our grand final appearance in 2009.

I see history repeating itself from this season onwards.
So in 8 years we’ll be a basket case and in 11 years get caught for cheating the cap again?? There’s something to look forward to!!
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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BA has been saying 'chase the collision' for years regardless of his assistants. Go figure, according to you, he was stuck in the past by outdated tactics that failed us for one and half years until sacked.
You’re the one stuck in the past if you think chase the collision refers to tactics. If you knew anything about professional sports you’d recognise it as an example of a mantra, which is used to help athletes focus on a specific area of their game.

In this example it was likely used to help our players improve their aggression and work rate in defence, which has been an area of weakness for our team.
Why wouldn't the coach have sole decision on what players they want. It is then up to R & R Committee if they can get them. You can't have R & R being independent of coach, that's just stupid thinking.
Because if you ask coaches which players they want they will all come up with the same list of players (“The best ones ffs!”). Identifying good players is the easy part. The hard part is negotiating their contracts and fitting them under the cap.

You're right that it would be stupid to have recruitment and retention completely independent of the coach, but it would also be stupid to put all the responsibility on him. There would be a very clear conflict of interest for one thing. Another reason is that he could get the club into very serious cap trouble that would last beyond his tenure at the club.

At Parra, MON said the coach tells them how he wants the team to play, and the list management group recruits players who will fit into that style. I've read that coaches might also have veto power over any signing decision, which makes sense. But that also might lead to a situation where the club doesn't have enough top 30 players because the coach doesn't want any of the players that are available on the market. So the list management group is there to take a big picture, dispassionate view of the squad.
You don't think Ryles didn't have a plan? I would suggest he had it all written down in file which he presented to board when being interviewed. That's what I'd do with previous experience and letters of recommendation included and suggest that is what any decent coach would do.
I'm sure every coach has a plan. It is a basic bitch part of any job that requires medium to long term decision making.
As per previous, Ryles imo would've had holistic plan for organisation from juniors up, his wish list, and board gave him job on proviso plan carried out. That's my take but you'll have another for sure.
I agree, but I don't think pathways are part of his job. He would get a say on which pathways players he will accept into the full-time squad but apart from that he already has a job that will require a lot more than 40 hours a week. Why load up a rookie coach with more responsibilities when there's an entire staff dedicated to pathways? I believe we have a bunch of fulltime pathways staff for the first time in the club's history. That's pretty cool and a great sign of our growth as a club.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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We got to a lot of preliminaries under Smith and looked a genuine title chance many years.
BA we never did. Yes we made the GF but we got slaughtered.
It was like the Trump vs Kamala election. Over in 10mins.
Are you talking about the 2001 grand final or the 2005 preliminary final against the Cowboys?

All up we lost four preliminaries and a grand final under Brian Smith. Yes Smith was a better coach, but at least Brad Arthur never lost a prelim.
 

Soren Lorenson

First Grade
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7,588
Gus has a new toy or needs cap space.

We saw this movie plenty of times at Penrith.

Guys like Moylan, Soward, Merrin signed on big money and moved on within 12 months.

Players get moved on ruthlessly.

Addo-Carr probably would have stayed if he was on unders at the Dogs not overs.
I assume this guy was on a small deal and the cap hit was predominantly the transfer fee they paid? If so it doesn’t seem like they would save much. Maybe they’ve signed too many players again and need to make room. Or maybe they just know now he’s not going to make it. The rugby league scrap heap of super hyped halves grows and grows.
 
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Lemon Squash

First Grade
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I’d heard rumours the Dogs have been trying to get him to medically retire for a while but Oloapu wants to play on. He’s not even 20 yet so fair enough.

Can only assume Dogs don’t think he will be able to play for a while still at least and are trying to move him on too free up $. From memory they signed him on decent money for an untried kid from the Broncos.

If he comes good Fins could have a 10+ year halves pairing with him and Katoa
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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Gus has a new toy or needs cap space.

We saw this movie plenty of times at Penrith.

Guys like Moylan, Soward, Merrin signed on big money and moved on within 12 months.

Players get moved on ruthlessly.

Addo-Carr probably would have stayed if he was on unders at the Dogs not overs.
I’d say the ability to clear cap space is one thing that separates the better resourced clubs from the rest. If you can clear cap space reliably, it means your speculative signings are far less risky.
 
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