Rumours and Stuff

[Delboy]

When working in the States been to more than a few American Football games, it’s a much better product on tv than live at the stadium , where the stop start and constant team changes are more noticeable. There are also a lot more very drunk and anti social fans than you see here .

The college games are far better to attend, the game is more open and the audience seems to make it more of a spectacle. Just my opinion, some may enjoy it more , game just runs in very small spurts of action.

 

[T-Boon]

there is more going on in a game of gridiron even when they are just starting to line up for the play than there is in a league hit up or even a whole set.
Fellas there is a good reason rugby league has struggled to grow out of just a couple of cities in the whole world.
You are making fools of yourselves. It sounds like when Victorians say Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world.
Snap out of it. Fools.

 

[84 Baby]

You're saying you love Volkman.... Is that what you're saying?

FFS man, just lose the comedic attempts and post what you mean

If Ram said what I did, you’d have made a witty comment comparing him to Arthur or posted an inane emoji. Stick to what you’re good at

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Announced and agreed to terms are different things . The club knew what he was doing from round 4, not 6 weeks later in round 10 like is potentially the case here .

Maybe they did. We don't know. All we know is the announcement date. if they knew in round four they certainly dragged out the announcement. More likely is they gave him until round ten and then announced it a week later. When do you reckon they will know Drown's plans?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't have ADHD watching sports so it doesn't bother me. While the ball IS "in play" more in RL than in Gridiron the players certainly aren't. 90% of players are half clocked off (playing heads down football) when the ball is in play in RL.

It's certainly the case that not every player is involved, or even onside, in every play in rugby league.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Mate the shit you spout yet pick up me exaggerating we should probably wait more than one trial game against woeful defence to kick Drown aside and pay Volkman $400k

Exaggerating or giving opinions without a source is fine for some. As soon as you say something they disagree with they become forensic accountants.

 

[Zoso]

there is more going on in a game of gridiron even when they are just starting to line up for the play than there is in a league hit up or even a whole set.
Fellas there is a good reason rugby league has struggled to grow out of just a couple of cities in the whole world.
You are making fools of yourselves. It sounds like when Victorians say Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world.
Snap out of it. Fools.

Is any football code growing in any new market? When it comes to growing players and competitions in that new place, that is.
The success of the game probably has less to do with the game play itself and more to do with its roots and development in a cultural, historic, regional, and commercial context.

 

[Pazza]

Anyway the point I am trying to make before meat head Pazza got this all personal is that the game could fix easily itself if the ugly meat heads like Pazza and Gould got out of the road and we got some experts in the field of how to make a sport a great spectacle that people want to watch in to make some suggestions on how to fix it.
I f**kin shoulda better known better.

All I said was if you don't like RL anymore, you don't have to follow it

Sorry about the Mr Pfizer comment

 

[Grimmace]

Maybe they did. We don't know. All we know is the announcement date. if they knew in round four they certainly dragged out the announcement. More likely is they gave him until round ten and then announced it a week later. When do you reckon they will know Drown's plans?

They knew what he was doing from round 4 100% . You'll find interviews with Mitch after that round 4 game stating he'd agreed to terms. They were probably in no rush to sort out the finer details of the contract from there and announced it when it was all done. As for DB we're completely at his mercy. If he wants to see how he goes the first 9 rounds and what interest it generates than we'll be waiting until round 10. If he cops a season ending injury round 1 we'll probably know by round 2. It's all up to him and his management, completely out of our hands and it seems Ryles has chosen to be unbothered by it and not let it be any more of a distraction than it needs to be.

The club allowed all this to happen to itself but I honesty think it shows where Dylan is at this stage of his career as well. He can't possibly feel like he's been all in on the team and his own development since he signed the last contact and really knuckling down and committing to the next couple of seasons and getting the most out of himself and buying into the team would seem to be in his best interests. Probably reflects why he's not in the leadership group - he just hasn't shown that ability as yet and whatever he does he's going to be expected to do it going forward.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They knew what he was doing from round 4 100% . You'll find interviews with Mitch after that round 4 game stating he'd agreed to terms. They were probably in no rush to sort out the finer details of the contract from there and announced it when it was all done. As for DB we're completely at his mercy. If he wants to see how he goes the first 9 rounds and what interest it generates than we'll be waiting until round 10. If he cops a season ending injury round 1 we'll probably know by round 2. It's all up to him and his management, completely out of our hands and it seems Ryles has chosen to be unbothered by it and not let it be any more of a distraction than it needs to be.

The club allowed all this to happen to itself but I honesty think it shows where Dylan is at this stage of his career as well. He can't possibly feel like he's been all in on the team and his own development since he signed the last contact and really knuckling down and committing to the next couple of seasons and getting the most out of himself and buying into the team would seem to be in his best interests. Probably reflects why he's not in the leadership group - he just hasn't shown that ability as yet and whatever he does he's going to be expected to do it going forward.

Even if it was round four, that's well past November when we would've wanted to be sorting out a replacement. Is the market going to be much different after round ten?

 

[Grimmace]

Even if it was round four, that's well past November when we would've wanted to be sorting out a replacement. Is the market going to be much different after round ten?

Who’s to say. 6 weeks is a long time in league . Players become available all the time. It also helped put an end to our 0-3 start and was a complete distraction to the whole club at the time . Another 6 weeks of it would’ve been even worse.

More to the point we’ve given Team Brown the chance to act in their own best interests as the expense of the club.
We’ve given him flexibility to look after himself with us being his safety next both in terms of money and time .
I think it’s in his own best interest to sort it out ASAP still . If he takes up the option and does an injury round 1 then that’s the luck of the draw . If he injures himself and then commits it’s gonna go down like a lead balloon. Either way the club is at fault.

End of the day as it stands now he’s either genuine about leaving for a better offer or he’s trying to get the Eels to raise theirs. Following in the footsteps of captain Gutho and Mitch before him .. the rotten culture BA fostered here couldn’t end soon enough .

 

[Gazzamatta]

They knew what he was doing from round 4 100% . You'll find interviews with Mitch after that round 4 game stating he'd agreed to terms. They were probably in no rush to sort out the finer details of the contract from there and announced it when it was all done. As for DB we're completely at his mercy. If he wants to see how he goes the first 9 rounds and what interest it generates than we'll be waiting until round 10. If he cops a season ending injury round 1 we'll probably know by round 2. It's all up to him and his management, completely out of our hands and it seems Ryles has chosen to be unbothered by it and not let it be any more of a distraction than it needs to be.

The club allowed all this to happen to itself but I honesty think it shows where Dylan is at this stage of his career as well. He can't possibly feel like he's been all in on the team and his own development since he signed the last contact and really knuckling down and committing to the next couple of seasons and getting the most out of himself and buying into the team would seem to be in his best interests. Probably reflects why he's not in the leadership group - he just hasn't shown that ability as yet and whatever he does he's going to be expected to do it going forward.

I found it interesting he wasn't captain in the recent trial. Offa (the phantom dakker) ran out first with Dylan second.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I found it interesting he wasn't captain in the recent trial. Offa (the phantom dakker) ran out first with Dylan second.

Why would you pick a captain who wasn't committed to the team?

 

[oldmancraigy]

Even if it was round four, that's well past November when we would've wanted to be sorting out a replacement. Is the market going to be much different after round ten?

I may be quite thick - please help me understand how round 4 2023 is after November 1 2023?
Nov 1 2023 was when Mitch was eligible to negotiate with other teams. We locked him up months in advance.

It might be that your attempt at triumphalism just backfired?

Mitch Moses signs until end 2024.

LOCKED IN: Parramatta hand Mitch Moses huge new contract extension

LOCKED IN: Eels hand Moses huge new contract extension, re-sign another star

www.foxsports.com.au

18 May 2023 (quite some time before Nov 1 2023) Mitch Moses extends again.

https://www.nospam47.com/au/rugby-l...sion-parramatta-eels/asuc5whciuwh9bsf0ottumy1

I apologise if I've missed the finer details or nuances here.

For some reason @Grimmace isn't working for me. But I think you guys have just got the timings muddled up.
This is not at all similar to DBrown.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Who’s to say. 6 weeks is a long time in league . Players become available all the time. It also helped put an end to our 0-3 start and was a complete distraction to the whole club at the time . Another 6 weeks of it would’ve been even worse.

Fair point. Moses should've committed earlier. It's not like he had a PO as an excuse to drag it out.

More to the point we’ve given Team Brown the chance to act in their own best interests as the expense of the club. We’ve given him flexibility to look after himself with us being his safety next both in terms of money and time .

That's what we agreed to when Drown agreed to accept the PO in lieu of however much more money he would've wanted without it. We can't now complain that he's hanging onto the PO we sold him. We already got our benefit from the option between 2023 and 2025. Now he's entitled to gain his benefit.

I think it’s in his own best interest to sort it out ASAP still . If he takes up the option and does an injury round 1 then that’s the luck of the draw . If he injures himself and then commits it’s gonna go down like a lead balloon. Either way the club is at fault.

The club is at fault if he gets injured? Nobody is 'at fault' here. Both parties agreed to a mutually beneficial contract. He has a benefit now, at the end of the contract, and we took our benefit in the contract's first three years.

End of the day as it stands now he’s either genuine about leaving for a better offer or he’s trying to get the Eels to raise theirs.

Well if he activates this option (apparently what we want him to do) there is another one waiting for him in a couple of years. If we were so concerned about it, wouldn't we offer him a new contract? And now he is testing the market, trying to chase more cash. If the PO was such an advantage to the player, why does he feel he is underpaid?

Following in the footsteps of captain Gutho and Mitch before him .. the rotten culture BA fostered here couldn’t end soon enough .

You could be right. Our senior players do seem more selfish than those at other clubs, but maybe it just seems that way because it's Parramatta, and we are biased as fans. If they are indeed more selfish, why is the former coach the scapegoat? Gutherson just got the arse. How do we know he wasn't the problem? How do we know the main culprit hasn't just been named captain?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I may be quite thick - please help me understand how round 4 2023 is after November 1 2023?
Nov 1 2023 was when Mitch was eligible to negotiate with other teams. We locked him up months in advance.

It might be that your attempt at triumphalism just backfired?

Mitch Moses signs until end 2024.

LOCKED IN: Parramatta hand Mitch Moses huge new contract extension

LOCKED IN: Eels hand Moses huge new contract extension, re-sign another star

www.foxsports.com.au

18 May 2023 (quite some time before Nov 1 2023) Mitch Moses extends again.

https://www.nospam47.com/au/rugby-l...sion-parramatta-eels/asuc5whciuwh9bsf0ottumy1

I apologise if I've missed the finer details or nuances here.

For some reason @Grimmace isn't working for me. But I think you guys have just got the timings muddled up.
This is not at all similar to DBrown.

Looks like @Grimmace and I don't have the facts right. Good pick up.

 

[Glenneel]

Mate are you f**king drunk? How much do you think the ball is actually in play during a standard NFL game?

11 minutes out of a total game time of 3 hrs. f**k me no wonder it’s made for television. All you are watching is commercials and the halftime show.

Also how long is the game actually played for the 3 plus hours the game usually runs? 1 hour only plus 2 plus hours of adds and stoppages. Yeh, great gam......(snore)

 

[hindy111]

Also how long is the game actually played for the 3 plus hours the game usually runs? 1 hour only plus 2 plus hours of adds and stoppages. Yeh, great gam......(snore)

It's a different game. Some people will watch test cricket for 8hrs for 5 days and get a draw yet enjoy it.
I love NFL. It has a lot of big plays thst change the game. But it is a bit slow and I prefer the natural flow of rugby league. I think you see more exciting plays in the NFL tho

 

[Eelementary]

It's a different game. Some people will watch test cricket for 8hrs for 5 days and get a draw yet enjoy it.
I love NFL. It has a lot of big plays thst change the game. But it is a bit slow and I prefer the natural flow of rugby league. I think you see more exciting plays in the NFL tho

Completely agree.

Much like Test cricket, NFL is a war of attrition - it's a battle of wits, and "who will blink first".

If you know the rules, and what you're watching, gridiron is quite exciting.

It has the propensity to have massive, game-defining plays on a more consistent basis than the NRL.

I prefer rugby league (mostly because the Vegas Raiders are garbage, have been garbage for decades, and will continue to be garbage until long after I die...whereas the Eels seem to be on the upswing), but gridiron is an awesome sport, where sporting IQ is rewarded in every match.

 

[King-Gutho94]

It's a different game. Some people will watch test cricket for 8hrs for 5 days and get a draw yet enjoy it.
I love NFL. It has a lot of big plays thst change the game. But it is a bit slow and I prefer the natural flow of rugby league. I think you see more exciting plays in the NFL tho

If every sport was the same it would be boring.

Each sport has its own unique skill set and flair.

I can tolerate and watch most sports.

If there was a sport I could fire into a cannon and never be seen again its probably Rugby Union.