Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

I don’t understand why we’d entertain the Idea, for a start, he won’t come…

secondly, we have some decent options internally that can be harnessed into the role starting from the kid who made his debut on the weekend.

Smith at least defends at NRL level, and his attack is decent. Could definitely play second fiddle to Moses.

 

[Parra Pride]

Without shedding players how the f**k do the Dogs fit in Galvin now?

By lying and saying they are paying him less than they are.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You keep making excuses for everything instead of providing possible reasons as to why someone would prefer Parramatta.

Not at all, we know there are reasons some players prefer our club. Two of them are playing Origin tomorrow night. But there are also reasons some players chose other clubs. There's no need to look for a scapegoat. We don't know all the facts so we shouldn't pretend someone must've f**ked up, as if that could be the only explanation.

 

[Chipmunk]

Very interesting, especially the final section on creative accounting.

"And the thing is this, there is a legal way to really boost your salary cap, or your spending with third party money. The good clubs know how to do it. The poor clubs don't know how to do it. The poor clubs don't have the capacity to do it, they don't have the contacts to do it, they don't have the businessmen around to be able to do it.

The rich clubs, here's a simple way, okay. I'm worth tens of millions of dollars, I'd love to go and sponsor the club because I'm becoming an old man, I want to come in, I want to sponsor the club, because I just want to hang around the footy and go to the footy with my mates and a couple of my other mates are sponsors.

Club chairman says "Mate, don't come and sponsor us. You just offer this guy over here a third party sponsorship. So you'll have no official contact with the club. But what I'll do, I'll get you in the chairman's lounge every week. You can come and have a beer with us, you can come in the sheds afterwards, you can have all the benefits of being a sponsor, but you're only sponsoring Billy Bloggs playing fullback."

Then Kent describes how Gould implemented third parties at Penrith and now at Canterbury.

This is not really rocket science. If the club was smarter this is exactly how Aland should've been treated from day 1.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isaac Moses has been played by Galvin as well by the sound of it unless Moses is the ultimate in telling porkies

Moses is an honourable man. He wouldn't lie to us.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A lot of benefits for Galvin at the Bulldogs won't need to be put into an NRL contract.

Association is enough. Especially if he reaches his potential.

They have resources most clubs don't have. Lat time we had this sort of dodgy hangers on around the club, it all went great until the backstabbers went to work in hopes of taking control of the club. Instead we went into administration and now professional rule-followers are running the club. Great for avoiding scandal, not so great for bypassing the salary cap.

 

[Chipmunk]

Moses is an honourable man. He wouldn't lie to us.

At the end of the day the Manager is just the middle man, he doesn't really decide where the player wants to play if the player is adamant about playing somewhere

 

[Poupou Escobar]

this goes beyond how much other clubs offer, even though you and I both know that Laudy got involved with these organisations...anyway.

I'll say it again, we don't have the people at our club at an administrative level to sell the dream and vision to a player considering his options.

They keep getting Mitch Moses to re-sign. They got Lomax.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It’s all about ego. Like me telling you merkins the Bitcoin price.

I own shares that have outperformed BTC.

 

[Chipmunk]

They keep getting Mitch Moses to re-sign. They got Lomax.

Have we signed a player since 2022 where we weren't the likely only bidder though?

 

[Chipmunk]

They have resources most clubs don't have. Lat time we had this sort of dodgy hangers on around the club, it all went great until the backstabbers went to work in hopes of taking control of the club. Instead we went into administration and now professional rule-followers are running the club. Great for avoiding scandal, not so great for bypassing the salary cap.

Interestingly enough I don't even think Arthur Laundy was previously a Dogs fan.

It's like Bouros on the board of the Roosters. He's now a Roosters fan because a richer Greek than himself tells him he is.

 

[Parra Pride]

Isaac Moses has been played by Galvin as well by the sound of it unless Moses is the ultimate in telling porkies

At best I’d say Galvin told Moses he was going to the team on top of the ladder unless the rebuilding team bent over backwards for him, Moses passed on the message and Ryles told him to f**k off. In reality though Isaac Moses is a scumbag and is always pulling the strings.

 

[Parra Pride]

Have we signed a player since 2022 where we weren't the likely only bidder though?

Does resigning Moses count? Because we all had it on good authority he was f**king off to the Roosters!

 

[TheCrowe]

Very interesting, especially the final section on creative accounting.

"And the thing is this, there is a legal way to really boost your salary cap, or your spending with third party money. The good clubs know how to do it. The poor clubs don't know how to do it. The poor clubs don't have the capacity to do it, they don't have the contacts to do it, they don't have the businessmen around to be able to do it.

The rich clubs, here's a simple way, okay. I'm worth tens of millions of dollars, I'd love to go and sponsor the club because I'm becoming an old man, I want to come in, I want to sponsor the club, because I just want to hang around the footy and go to the footy with my mates and a couple of my other mates are sponsors.

Club chairman says "Mate, don't come and sponsor us. You just offer this guy over here a third party sponsorship. So you'll have no official contact with the club. But what I'll do, I'll get you in the chairman's lounge every week. You can come and have a beer with us, you can come in the sheds afterwards, you can have all the benefits of being a sponsor, but you're only sponsoring Billy Bloggs playing fullback."

Then Kent describes how Gould implemented third parties at Penrith and now at Canterbury.

Its not a secret that the top tier clubs know how to exploit this massive loophole.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Someone explain this to me. How are Bulldogs that much bigger than us to be getting 3rd party deals?

It's not about the size of the club, it's about having a network of wealthy/influential people associated with the club. As a fairly big club, we probably do quite well with sponsors, but if we ask them to provide TPAs instead they ask what's in it for them. They don't necessarily want to hang around footballers, they want to advertise their business through association with the club. With TPAs they can't do that.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Think their board has several wealthy , business owners who seem to have connections. Not sure if our board is similar, seem to be very professional people Involved , are they wealthy and mad fans as the Dogs seem to, not seen it really. The Parra board are doing a great job , different perspective it seems regards behind the scenes support.

ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

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It's a nepotism business. Perfect for rugby league shenanigans, not a multinational worried about governance and risk.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

HYPOTHETICAL DISCLAIMER!

If I own a chain of businesses plus now I own Eels effectively, in my other chain of businesses I require a whole bunch of different services, for example I may need a linen supply.
I might go to tender for it and a whole bunch of good suppliers come back and I’m struggling to pick.
I like one but they’re a bit expensive.
I could ask them to lower their price or maybe I just have an informal chat to them, perhaps the topic of the Eels comes up, perhaps I mention I really like that player from another club, let’s call them Lachlan Thompson, but we can’t actually afford him because we’d need a TPA for well actually roughly the same amount as the difference between your linen cost and what I actually want to spend.
Then the next day because they too really like Lachlan Thompson and the Eels, the supplier contacts the agent and saythey’ll pay a TPA if Lachlan Thompson plays for the Eels.
The day after I award the contract to that supplier.

Purely hypothetical of course.

And even though we'll probably never get caught, it's still technically against the rules, because the TPA is dependent on the player signing with a given club. Some boards think that risk is acceptable while others never would.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

My final suggestion/"solution" to 5/8 for rest of season and next season lets throw $500k at Bevan French. Very versatile player.

In the NRL he is a fullback and nothing else, and we possibly have two of those in our 17 already this week.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Have we signed a player since 2022 where we weren't the likely only bidder though?

How could we know?