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Ryan to Cronulla

Tiger05

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Fulton is our best forward and you can only carry one small forward these days not 2.

I basically agree with this statement but where does that leave Blair. I know he isn't a small forward but he does lack impact which basically amounts to the same thing.
 

Tiger05

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Love his passion and effort but I think Utai and Korobiete both offer more.

I think that this is the right decision as well however that depends on not re-signing Lote. Its would be stupid to keep Lote and get rid of Ryan.
 

Elektrik Shock

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1. Moltzen 2. Koribete 3. Lawrence 4. Ayshford 5. Tedesco 6. Sironen 7. Marshall 8. Galloway 9. Farah 10, Kite 11. Fulton 12. Blair 13. Anasta 14. Murdoch-Masilla 15. Masoe 16. Pettybourne 17. Thompson Looks solid to me.
 

Mario chalmers

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Club is not in crisis these moves are smart by the Tigers.

David Nofaoluma in the 20's is on par with Korobiete as a winger and is superior to Ryan right now.

Hino is on a large contract and has lost his punch and is now just a quick play the ball undersized 2nd rower. Fulton is our best forward and you can only carry one small forward these days not 2.

That said both Hino and Ryan have been great servants of the club but the negativity should be directed to coaching and recruitment or lack thereof.

This would b a valid comment if lote was not re signing. Nofo will b stuck behind lote who is not a shadow of the player he once was. The decision to retain Tuqiri once confirmed will confirm sheens place as the most inept coach to have led an nrl side in the past 10 years.

To summarize what is happening- two outside backs, namely moltzen and lote are being retained after what can only be described as dreadful seasons. In contrast, our best performing outside back in beau ryan is being punted.

Its becoming increasingly difficult to support WT. the coach cannot identify talent.
 
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TYGA

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This would b a valid comment if lote was not re signing. Nofo will b stuck behind lote who is not a shadow of the player he once was. The decision to retain Tuqiri once confirmed will confirm sheens place as the most inept coach to have led an nrl side in the past 10 years.

To summarize what is happening- two outside backs, namely moltzen and lote are being retained after what can only be described as dreadful seasons. In contrast, our best performing outside back in beau ryan is being punted.

Its becoming increasingly difficult to support WT. the coach cannot identify talent.

I was not aware Lote Was extending his deal and its another example of our poor recruitment and retention policy. I officially just don't understand why they would punt loyal players for nil return.
 

Mario chalmers

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The mail on the official forum is that Ryan and hino were always mucking about at training. Whatever way u look at it we had the roster and the depth this yr but sheens blew it. The injuries we suffered were comparable to any other leading side. The failure to settle on a halves pairing is the blunder that I can't overlook
 

Tiger05

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To summarize what is happening- two outside backs, namely moltzen and lote are being retained after what can only be described as dreadful seasons. In contrast, our best performing outside back in beau ryan is being punted.

This is the reality of the situation isn't it.

I think we do need to cut some players and despite liking both Heighno and Ryan they are players that are part of the problem. Ryan is a slow back and Heighno a backrower who lacks impact.

The problem is that re-signing Lote is absolute madness based on his performances this year. Surely he doesn't deserve a spot in the team whereas Utai does.
 

Tiger05

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1. Moltzen 2. Koribete 3. Lawrence 4. Ayshford 5. Tedesco 6. Sironen 7. Marshall 8. Galloway 9. Farah 10, Kite 11. Fulton 12. Blair 13. Anasta 14. Murdoch-Masilla 15. Masoe 16. Pettybourne 17. Thompson Looks solid to me.

It isn't a bad squad is it however Woods is our best prop and Moltzen doesn't deserve another shot at fullback.

1. Tedesco
2. Koribete
3. Lawrence
4. Moltzen
5. Lote - I would put a junior or Utai there ahead of him.
6. Marshall
7. Anasta
8. Galloway
9. Farah
10. Woods
11. Murdoch-Masilla
12. Blair
13. Fulton

14. Kite
15. Bell
16. Pettybourne
17. Thompson

Ayshford / Sironen can get a run when injuries occur.
 

CrazyTiger

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my league Live app is saying the same thing, lote for another year.

what are they thinking.

He is obviously comparing the two players potential at their peaks. Lote was a devastating
player at his best, Beau is as good as he will ever be, which is not bad.

He is banking on Lote getting over all his injury problems for 2013, and mentoring our young
wingers. He is then assuming that Lawrence and Ayshford will return to 2010 form, leaving no place for Beau.

I didn't say this was sensible, I'm just saying that would be his logic.
 

Matchball

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We kept Lote to mentor the young fijians.
We picked up another flyer who is faster and bigger than MK.

While its good, why can't he just be on the staff and not a player?
 

Mario chalmers

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The best thing to come out of this is that the senior players left behind will really be angered by this decision beau and benji are very close

Beau might not have had the explosivess or tackle breaking ability of other wingers but he largely showed himself to b solid under the high ball in 2012. This is the number 1 priority for the modern winger in an age where so many kicks are scored from tries
 

madunit

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It isn't a bad squad is it however Woods is our best prop and Moltzen doesn't deserve another shot at fullback.

1. Tedesco
2. Koribete
3. Lawrence
4. Moltzen
5. Lote - I would put a junior or Utai there ahead of him.
6. Marshall
7. Anasta
8. Galloway
9. Farah
10. Woods
11. Murdoch-Masilla
12. Blair
13. Fulton

14. Kite
15. Bell
16. Pettybourne
17. Thompson

Ayshford / Sironen can get a run when injuries occur.
No doubt Ayshford had a crap year, but there is no way in Hell than Ayshford at his worst at centre is worse than Moltzen at his best at centre.

Furthremore, that side doesn't look that fantastic imo, 2012 squad looked better and the 2011 squad looked even better still.
 

Tiger05

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No doubt Ayshford had a crap year, but there is no way in Hell than Ayshford at his worst at centre is worse than Moltzen at his best at centre.

Furthremore, that side doesn't look that fantastic imo, 2012 squad looked better and the 2011 squad looked even better still.

Changes need to be made and Ayshford had a crap year and has looked too slow. Moltzen isn't slow. Still play either of them there but sack either one if they do not perform. The problem is Sheens is very slow in sacking under-performers.
 

Tiger05

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The best thing to come out of this is that the senior players left behind will really be angered by this decision beau and benji are very close

Who gives a f**k. Seriously the players are paid well to perform. I don't want to hear about their crying even if it means Sheens goes.

Every player should be doing his best to win games for us. If they aren't trying they should f**k off. If they are whinging crying little sooks because their friends leave they should f**k off.

It is a professional sport - deal with it.
 

Magpies Forever

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Changes need to be made and Ayshford had a crap year and has looked too slow. Moltzen isn't slow. Still play either of them there but sack either one if they do not perform. The problem is Sheens is very slow in sacking under-performers.

Agree, one or even both should be shown the door.
 

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