Sack Adam O'Brien

[Jono078]

When a bloke needs to start rattling off his resume you know he's feeling the pinch.
I don't care how well they train, the issue is game plan, there was a very clear but ill thought out directive over the past few seasons to play through the forwards and it was obviously hammered into the team, that to me is as much ingrained as any of the bad habits.

That would be on Nathan Brown though? We played some awful basic footy under him, hence why he was moved on so we could advance to the next level.

There were moments today we couldn't even do one out footy because no one wanted a run.

 

[aqua_duck]

That would be on Nathan Brown though? We played some awful basic footy under him, hence why he was moved on so we could advance to the next level.

There were moments today we couldn't even do one out footy because no one wanted a run.

Brown was not a good coach that much is obvious but AOB implemented a very direct strategy to go through the middle and basically use our pack to roll through teams.

 

[Old dog]

Replacement Coach, clutching at straws.
We either stick with what we have or make a serious thoughtful decision on who we want but everyone on here is of a different opinion.
My thoughts for what it’s worth is we stick with Obi for the start of 2023, we let the new guy Parr assess things and then depending on performance make a decision.
Most players are of contract end 2023 so being resigned or moving on will depend on performances which in return will reflect salary offered.
Whatever happens can expect big changes and that means “The only way is up”

 

[Dogs Of War]

Did aob steal Trent Barrett’s game plans. It felt like I was watching the bulldogs the last couple years.

 

[Jono078]

Did aob steal Trent Barrett’s game plans. It felt like I was watching the bulldogs the last couple years.

Not even mad because you can't even argue that.

Seem to have gotten the playing group to the same level of enjoyment as him too.

 

[Seage]

My thoughts for what it’s worth is we stick with Obi for the start of 2023, we let the new guy Parr assess things and then depending on performance make a decision.

What evidence do you think will materialise by mid next year that hasn't been revealed in the last 3 years? Waiting around for one new bloke to reach the same conclusion that everyone else arrived at a long time ago seems like a silly strategy.

 

[Jono078]

The more I think about it I think it will be best to bring in a new coach prior to the off-season kicking off.

They can create accountability from day one and set some standards. I fear holding onto AOB will just waste another year.

Even if we fire him early next year we have no experienced assistant coach to take over..

 

[Loose Cannon]

Mick Potter should be considered.
Play football!

 

[Alex28]

Flanagan has some dirt on him but I don’t think 2016 is tainted like you’re saying. The cap cheating was in 2017, and the peptide issue was history by then.

Flanagan recruited very well and was able to land big name signings - Lewis, Maloney, Ennis etc.

His senior players really seemed to buy in. He had a lot of big egos in that team to manage, and he got them performing for him.

On the negative side, I think he was also responsible for signing some highly paid duds towards the end - Dugan, Johnson, Moylan, Woods.

I’d like to think Flanagan is the guy to crack whips on players like the Saifitis and get them performing as they should.

He was busted cheating the cap in 2015 and 2017. The drugs program was before then, but they got the legacy from that in the form of what it turned some average players into.

There is a reason why that cheat can’t get a run at another club. He should have secured a few clubs by now.

 

[Bdubs]

If AOB says he has come from clubs winning 4 grand finals and he knows what good defence looks like and how those teams prepare etc....... how come under his coaching our defence is rapidly getting worse, so much so it looks like the players have never met before let alone trained to defend as a unit

Don't give us this crap that you are working on the defencive issues now, what has AOB been doing the past 2 years with the defence

 

[aqua_duck]

If AOB says he has come from clubs winning 4 grand finals and he knows what good defence looks like and how those teams prepare etc....... how come under his coaching our defence is rapidly getting worse, so much so it looks like the players have never met before let alone trained to defend as a unit

Don't give us this crap that you are working on the defencive issues now, what has AOB been doing the past 2 years with the defence

yep, and he can hardly use the excuse that they've been focusing their efforts on attack because the attack is atrocious as well

 

[Jono078]

Media is all over AOB today. Saying him comments have removed himself from the playing group and laying blame on others. I didn’t feel he was blaming others but was sure as hell justifying his position.

 

[Yosh]

Media is all over AOB today. Saying him comments have removed himself from the playing group and laying blame on others. I didn’t feel he was blaming others but was sure as hell justifying his position.

Finally the beginning of the end!

 

[Frailty]

I've been watching AOB post-game conferences for the last few weeks, and it's quite clear he has no idea what to do. He keeps repeating this line that they need to "come up with a plan" or "have a plan"... It's Round 20, there's 5 games to go, and he's still talking about needing to come up with a plan?

Him bringing up his roles with the Storm and Roosters are hilarious though.

Add him to the pile of coaches that may be ok/good assistant coaches but can not handle being a head coach.

 

[Haffa]

‘Silly thing to say’: O’Brien under fire for ‘talking himself up’ amid shocking Knights slump​

August 1st, 2022 8:38 am
Adam O’Brien launched a passionate defence of his coaching credentials after Newcastle slumped to their eighth home loss in nine games against the Bulldogs.
But his comments have drawn criticism, with veteran Daily Telegraph reporter Phil Rothfield accusing the Knights coach of playing “blame games” amid his club’s worrying form slump.
Sunday’s 24-10 defeat ensured Newcastle still have the worst defensive record in the NRL after 20 rounds, but O’Brien used his history as an assistant coach with grand final teams at the Storm and Roosters as evidence he knows how to turn things around.
“It is a hard one for me as well,” O’Brien said in the post-match press conference.
“Previous to getting this job here I was involved in four grand finals.

“I know how those teams prepared. I know the systems they used defensively.

“You don’t unlearn that knowledge. Applying it and getting it ingrained is going to take some time clearly.

“Week to week we can talk about one area of that defence and we can fix it in seven days, but then we will let another area of our defence down.

“It is going to take a bit of time and I know some people don’t want to wait that long, but it is.”

‘Silly thing to say’: O’Brien under fire for ‘talking himself up’ amid shocking Knights slump

‘Silly thing to say’: O’Brien under fire for ‘talking himself up’ amid shocking Knights slump

www.foxsports.com.au

It's going to take time....have a plan and coach the hell out of it.

He's taking the piss now

 

[Jono078]

Todd Peyton and Mick Potter have shown you can turn things relatively quickly. If the players aren’t responding to 3 years of your methods, well I think that says what the problem is.

 

[slotmachine]

Todd Peyton and Mick Potter have shown you can turn things relatively quickly

Literally overnight in Potter's case. The Dogs went from averaging 9 points a game this year to 25 a game after Barrett was given the arse.

 

[Bdubs]

Literally overnight in Potter's case. The Dogs went from averaging 9 points a game this year to 25 a game after Barrett was given the arse.

Get your point, but one thing to be careful of in Potter's case is that there is no pressure on him or the team. Makes a huge difference when you can play with freedom without fear of consequences compared to playing not to loose the game.

But gee Potter has been refreshing for the dogs

 

[Allstar Knights]

Media is all over AOB today. Saying him comments have removed himself from the playing group and laying blame on others. I didn’t feel he was blaming others but was sure as hell justifying his position.

Didn't he say the other day he's not responsible for all of our recruitment? I get the feeling he's happy to take as much pressure off himself any way he can.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

Ok I’m hopping off the AOB train now, should have gotten off many stops ago but here we are. I’ve defended him a fair bit this year on this forum because there have been a bunch of mitigating factors that have made this year really challenging but he just doesn’t seem to be getting anywhere with this team. We’re basically coming last in every facet of the game aside from the fact that we’ve miraculously won 2 more games than the Gold Coast and I still won’t rule out the possibility of us losing all remaining games and the teams below us winning a couple.

The most galling thing is that he’s never really been clear on what the plan is for the club or even game to game. With Brown there was at least a strong vision and a direction we were headed in and he did a pretty good job of assembling a roster that could in theory get us there with the right coaching. However AOB has somehow managed to take us straight back in the opposite direction.

He looks totally lost now, completely out of answers. He probably won’t get fired this year but the wolves will be at his door from the get go next season. Imo he has 8-10 rounds next year to keep his job, if we don’t at least show significant improvement in key areas then he needs to be shown the door. Given there’s some pretty good talent coming off contract for 2024 and a lot of our squad is unsigned as well we need someone to come in and make the right moves so that we don’t end up in another decade long rebuild.