Sack Adam O'Brien

[Yosh]

Sacking AOB at this point would damage the Knights brand, and destabilize what's been set in place. The media would have a field day tearing the club apart - the new Tigers, they would be relentless.

Where does our roster rank? seriously. Take off the red and blue glasses for a minute.

It's a bottom 8 roster.

What players in our starting 13 would make it into the starting 13 of any of the teams that have finished top 4 the last few years? - not many (only 1 in the spine)

Finally Phil "foot in mouth" Gardner is moving on, finally we have a good recruitment/roster manager (best since Mooney).

Getting the wooden spoon would also damage their reputation/brand.

Sure a bottom 8 roster but is it the worst attacking roster of all time? Literally.

You see the rubbish wives of Newy article? You think more of those aren't going to come out if we keep losing and scoring less than a try a game?

Whats going to really damage the brand at the end of the day?

The roster isn't great no doubt but a good coach would make the best of a bad bunch. He has the best attacking player of the past decade but still can't find a way to use him. Everyone and their grandparents think his attacking tactics are weird and boring. Why are we still not challenging kicks? Why we hitting it one out with the smallest and most unathletic middles on the comp?

At the end of the day, whether we win or lose, I want the team I love and support to play in the spirit of the game. We are so damn negative every minute we have the ball. So boring. We all supported the club during the spoon years. Those were bottom 2 rosters for sure. But we turned up every week and gave it our all. Even though we sucked. That I can live with. Not this negative suck the life out of your soul negative football.

 

[Knight Tales]

If AOB is removed the club should let the players know it’s on them. Cos there is no way that attack is on him. The defence to start the year was our best in a long while.

 

[Apey]

Newcastle are their own worst enemy and Wahs on the up - April efficiency update - The Rugby League Eye Test

With the Bulldogs conceding 42 points against Brisbane on Thursday evening, it appears that the best defense in the NRL is now letting the Newcastle Knights have the ball. We will get to the Knights woes shortly, but prior to Round 8, the Dogs had only trailed on the scoreboard for 3.5% of game...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Some fun reading for how bad we are with the ball!

This could have been posted in any number of threads but I went with this one because it's a hotbed of activity.

 

[perverse]

Newcastle are their own worst enemy and Wahs on the up - April efficiency update - The Rugby League Eye Test

With the Bulldogs conceding 42 points against Brisbane on Thursday evening, it appears that the best defense in the NRL is now letting the Newcastle Knights have the ball. We will get to the Knights woes shortly, but prior to Round 8, the Dogs had only trailed on the scoreboard for 3.5% of game...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Some fun reading for how bad we are with the ball!

This could have been posted in any number of threads but I went with this one because it's a hotbed of activity.

But it's not a coaching problem... lol. We are literally historically bad. How can the coach not bare at least some responsibility for that? You are 5 years into your stint and your team is the worst attacking team in modern history. And not by a little either, by a lot.

Anyone defending this at this point must be related to the bloke. This isn't tenable, the club has to step in and do something if this keeps on much longer. We've literally got statisticians trying to pick apart how we can be this bad.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

Getting the wooden spoon would also damage their reputation/brand.

Sure a bottom 8 roster but is it the worst attacking roster of all time? Literally.

You see the rubbish wives of Newy article? You think more of those aren't going to come out if we keep losing and scoring less than a try a game?

Whats going to really damage the brand at the end of the day?

The roster isn't great no doubt but a good coach would make the best of a bad bunch. He has the best attacking player of the past decade but still can't find a way to use him. Everyone and their grandparents think his attacking tactics are weird and boring. Why are we still not challenging kicks? Why we hitting it one out with the smallest and most unathletic middles on the comp?

At the end of the day, whether we win or lose, I want the team I love and support to play in the spirit of the game. We are so damn negative every minute we have the ball. So boring. We all supported the club during the spoon years. Those were bottom 2 rosters for sure. But we turned up every week and gave it our all. Even though we sucked. That I can live with. Not this negative suck the life out of your soul negative football.

so what would be a fair finish on the ladder for our roster ? you think were are top 4? 6th ? 8th?

 

[Yosh]

so what would be a fair finish on the ladder for our roster ? you think were are top 4? 6th ? 8th?

It's not about where we finish on the ladder to be honest. As long time fans, you expect some good years and some dry ones. "Uhhh but we have finished in the top 8 every year under AOB" is what AOB supporters always say. Is that why we bought him to the club? To get us to avoid the spoon? Is that why the club bought him in? If it is, he is doing a great job. We are playing boring negative footy where if we defend well enough, we are going to win enough games against crappy sides, to get enough wins to finish mid table. Is that why we bought him in?

Shouldn't we be aiming a bit higher? Our facilities are worlds better than they were 20 years ago. I would say state of the art now. Our NRLW team won back to back premierships. We have had the best player in the game on our roster the past half decade. We signed the most expensive player of all time. We have the best recruitment manager in the game. Parr has been part of premiership winning establishments. It all screams we want to aim as high as possible. The only one out of sync with that is AOB.

I'm sure he is an excellent coach. I just don't see him being the head coach of a successful NRL club.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

It's not about where we finish on the ladder to be honest. As long time fans, you expect some good years and some dry ones. "Uhhh but we have finished in the top 8 every year under AOB" is what AOB supporters always say. Is that why we bought him to the club? To get us to avoid the spoon? Is that why the club bought him in? If it is, he is doing a great job. We are playing boring negative footy where if we defend well enough, we are going to win enough games against crappy sides, to get enough wins to finish mid table. Is that why we bought him in?

Shouldn't we be aiming a bit higher? Our facilities are worlds better than they were 20 years ago. I would say state of the art now. Our NRLW team won back to back premierships. We have had the best player in the game on our roster the past half decade. We signed the most expensive player of all time. We have the best recruitment manager in the game. Parr has been part of premiership winning establishments. It all screams we want to aim as high as possible. The only one out of sync with that is AOB.

I'm sure he is an excellent coach. I just don't see him being the head coach of a successful NRL club.

Schumacher himself isn't going to get a Datsun 180 to pole position. Changing driver will do little to nothing, and I'm not a strong supporter of AOB.

 

[perverse]

Schumacher himself isn't going to get a Datsun 180 to pole position. Changing driver will do little to nothing, and I'm not a strong supporter of AOB.

No, but he'd be setting records for a Datsun - not pushing it around the track with his pants down.

 

[Wizardman]

No, but he'd be setting records for a Datsun - not pushing it around the track with his pants down.

A Datsun is a Datsun though. Your pack is sadly bottom four calibre atm.

 

[perverse]

A Datsun is a Datsun though. Your pack is sadly bottom four calibre atm.

Yep, it ain't great. You'd think the brains trust that make decisions about our roster might have seen it coming.