Sack Adam O'Brien

[perverse]

Chammas saying on Triple M today that the club is likely to pull the trigger on AOB if we miss the 8.

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Knight Tales]

I'll believe it when I see it.

My first thought.

 

[Haffa]

The only way it happens is if its player led and even then it probably needs to be Ponga led.

 

[macavity]

Talking to a mate today at the footy I think we really summed it up.

We don’t seem to have any trajectory.

We don’t have a plan.

We don’t have an idea of how we want to play (other than apparently boring).

We aren’t building a squad with any sort of strategy in mind.

Contrast to when Smithy was here after Joey - we were ultimately probably less successful than we have been under AOB, and certainly had a less talented squad - but we had a very obvious plan - money ball power game with finishing power out wide - and the team played to plan and squeezed every drop they could from their limited talent.

Now, our game plan seems to consist of holding on at our line after being steam rolled down the middle, dinking up little uncontested bombs and then waiting for Pong/Sharpe/Braddy to do something special.

Our squad building seems to be a hope and pray spend on Brown, and filling the rest of the squad with fringe first graders because it’s all we can afford or attract - without any sort of plan

it’s all pathetic, it’s all boring, and it all doesn’t work.

 

[Yosh]

Talking to a mate today at the footy I think we really summed it up.

We don’t seem to have any trajectory.

We don’t have a plan.

We don’t have an idea of how we want to play (other than apparently boring).

We aren’t building a squad with any sort of strategy in mind.

Contrast to when Smithy was here after Joey - we were ultimately probably less successful than we have been under AOB, and certainly had a less talented squad - but we had a very obvious plan - money ball power game with finishing power out wide - and the team played to plan and squeezed every drop they could from their limited talent.

Now, our game plan seems to consist of holding on at our line after being steam rolled down the middle, dinking up little uncontested bombs and then waiting for Pong/Sharpe/Braddy to do something special.

Our squad building seems to be a hope and pray spend on Brown, and filling the rest of the squad with fringe first graders because it’s all we can afford or attract - without any sort of plan

it’s all pathetic, it’s all boring, and it all doesn’t work.

You filed anything like this to Wests on an official basis or anything? If not, please do.

 

[Woody90]

Talking to a mate today at the footy I think we really summed it up.

We don’t seem to have any trajectory.

We don’t have a plan.

We don’t have an idea of how we want to play (other than apparently boring).

We aren’t building a squad with any sort of strategy in mind.

Contrast to when Smithy was here after Joey - we were ultimately probably less successful than we have been under AOB, and certainly had a less talented squad - but we had a very obvious plan - money ball power game with finishing power out wide - and the team played to plan and squeezed every drop they could from their limited talent.

Now, our game plan seems to consist of holding on at our line after being steam rolled down the middle, dinking up little uncontested bombs and then waiting for Pong/Sharpe/Braddy to do something special.

Our squad building seems to be a hope and pray spend on Brown, and filling the rest of the squad with fringe first graders because it’s all we can afford or attract - without any sort of plan

it’s all pathetic, it’s all boring, and it all doesn’t work.

It’s a good point re the lacking identify in attack. I’ve noticed that we attack very differently depending on who is in the halves and top teams don’t do that. They have their own identity and their set plays and everyone within the team know it. You know it’s “Storm attack” regardless of who’s in the halves.

 

[perverse]

Talking to a mate today at the footy I think we really summed it up.

We don’t seem to have any trajectory.

We don’t have a plan.

We don’t have an idea of how we want to play (other than apparently boring).

We aren’t building a squad with any sort of strategy in mind.

Contrast to when Smithy was here after Joey - we were ultimately probably less successful than we have been under AOB, and certainly had a less talented squad - but we had a very obvious plan - money ball power game with finishing power out wide - and the team played to plan and squeezed every drop they could from their limited talent.

Now, our game plan seems to consist of holding on at our line after being steam rolled down the middle, dinking up little uncontested bombs and then waiting for Pong/Sharpe/Braddy to do something special.

Our squad building seems to be a hope and pray spend on Brown, and filling the rest of the squad with fringe first graders because it’s all we can afford or attract - without any sort of plan

it’s all pathetic, it’s all boring, and it all doesn’t work.

Yes... it's almost like the guy who is in charge of how we play has no f**kin' idea.

 

[macavity]

It’s a good point re the lacking identify in attack. I’ve noticed that we attack very differently depending on who is in the halves and top teams don’t do that. They have their own identity and their set plays and everyone within the team know it. You know it’s “Storm attack” regardless of who’s in the halves.

All we do is one ups or block plays. Thats it. We are so easy to read. I guess that is an identity, in a way.

 

[Woody90]

Chammas saying on Triple M today that the club is likely to pull the trigger on AOB if we miss the 8.

This isn’t accurate btw. I listened to the podcast and he didn’t mention anything at all about him being sacked if we miss the 8 specifically. Sounded more like Chammas making up his own assumptions because we’re struggling and dressing it up as “hearing talk”. Sorry to be the barer of bad (although expected news).

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

It’s a good point re the lacking identify in attack. I’ve noticed that we attack very differently depending on who is in the halves and top teams don’t do that. They have their own identity and their set plays and everyone within the team know it. You know it’s “Storm attack” regardless of who’s in the halves.

We have our own identity, we're a boring team. Our fearless leader even admitted to this

 

[Woody90]

We have our own identity, we're a boring team. Our fearless leader even admitted to this

Oh we definitely boring. I more meant when Hastings plays it’s nothing but short balls, etc. We don’t seem to have any set plays that we can run regardless of who’s in the halves.

 

[macavity]

Oh we definitely boring. I more meant when Hastings plays it’s nothing but short balls, etc. We don’t seem to have any set plays that we can run regardless of who’s in the halves.

we have set plays.

one out, one out, short ball, block play, dinky bomb.

by 25 sets a game.

 

[Alex28]

2 lisfranc injuries and some messed up orans to our three best players is enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s not going anywhere.

I do see some value in a new head coach but AOB hanging around in developing our future first graders. What he has done with Lucas, Sharpe, Best, Hunt can’t be denied.

 

[alexwilliams_66692007]

I do see some value in a new head coach but AOB hanging around in developing our future first graders. What he has done with Lucas, Sharpe, Best, Hunt can’t be denied.

I'd be fine with this too.
I couldn't see many NRL clubs lining up for AOB's signature as head coach so a junior development job would probably suit him

 

[HarVeeGee]

Yeah he’s not staying on in a role like that if he’s sacked. It never works like that.

 

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah he’s not staying on in a role like that if he’s sacked. It never works like that.

Exactly.

 

[aqua_duck]

2 lisfranc injuries and some messed up orans to our three best players is enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s not going anywhere.

I do see some value in a new head coach but AOB hanging around in developing our future first graders. What he has done with Lucas, Sharpe, Best, Hunt can’t be denied.

Lucas and Sharpe yes but Hunt is like 5 games in and we’re acting like he’s the second coming of Israel Folau is abit much, Best was a can’t miss prospect. Mind you 4 players in the span of like 5 years isn’t exactly the fist pump you think it is. In that same period Ricky Stuart has brought through almost entire top 4 side, Robinson has brought through like 5-6 potential top line players in the past 3 years alone, even a dysfunctional dragons team have brought through 6-7 decent prospects in the past 2-3 years.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

Whilst I am firmly in the “sack AOB” camp I’ve gotta say our squad has been absolutely torn to shreds this season with injuries. Obviously we haven’t had the depth to cover it but we’ve now lost our 3 most damaging players (KP, Sharpe and Lucas) to season ending injuries. Add to that the fact that for a sizeable chunk of the year we’ve been missing either 2/3 or all 3 of our starting middles (JSaf, Leo & Elliot) and Friz has has missed some games too. Marzhew and Best have both had injury issues and once again there’s been a revolving door of halves thanks to Gamble getting injured every time he laces on a boot.

Whilst the tactics & coaching look poor a lot of the time, it’s been an absolute disaster from an injuries perspective and it’s a lot to ask for a team to perform well under the circumstances. In fairness to AOB the overall effort and commitment in defence has been first rate about 90% of the time despite the utter shit show in regards to personnel.

I’m as frustrated as anyone on here about how we’ve performed this year but at the very least we’ve got a team that gives a F**k every week which can’t be said about a few teams in the NRL right now. I’ll give AOB credit for keeping them all together in that sense.

 

[perverse]

2 lisfranc injuries and some messed up orans to our three best players is enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s not going anywhere.

If you ignore everything that happened in the leadup to all 3 of those events and have some issues with temporal perception then sure - there's plenty there for benefit of the doubt.

What it actually gives the club is plausible deniability and an excuse to do nothing for another year. We were dogshit with Ponga, Sharpe and Lucas too. We've been shit with brief flashes of hope for 6 years. If i'm blessed enough to make it to 70 - this bumbling idiot will have coached my favourite footy team for 10% of my f**king life - for zero return. Dismal. Grim. Pathetic. Yadda, yadda, yadda... I'm going to be here in 12 months saying the exact same shit so what does it matter.

I can't wait for another year of 4 one-out plays off the ruck and an uncontested chip bomb. It's beautiful viewing.

 

[Woody90]

2 lisfranc injuries and some messed up orans to our three best players is enough to give him the benefit of the doubt

These have all happened in the last 2 rounds though. What’s the excuse for the first 17 rounds? Yes we had a heap of middle forwards out for a lot of the games, but in a lot of them, especially against the other bottom teams, they weren’t the issue. It was having absolutely zero idea what to do with the ball once we were up the oppositions end. Can’t blame forward injuries for that.

We obviously need changes. Going into a new year and just assuming we’re only bad due to injuries and it will turn around would be pretty foolish. I don’t even care if we don’t sack AOB because I agree he’s definitely got some positives and I also think he’s probably overachieved getting a pretty average squad to the finals 4/5 years, but at the very least we should be searching for a really good attack coach to help.