Sack Flanagan

[redv13]

We've lost 4 games in a row in ridiculous fashion and are having one of our worst three seasons in 15 years, do you blame me?

You might not see it as much in that other forum (apologist echo chamber) that you're in.

It’s not that I don’t see it, I just don’t ram it down people’s throats 24/7. When Griffin got the arse I wanted Madge as our next coach. I’m far from Flanno’s number 1 supporter

 

[saintmar]

Personally I think Flanno is in a world of hurt but will survive the season. He needs to land some big fish for next year and time will be ticking in the first 10-12 rounds to get it right

Why should we give him 10 rounds next year to see the same crap?
We are slipping down the ladder very fast
But if our goal is only to give him a free holiday to Vegas tHan we should keep him

 

[saintmar]

It’s not that I don’t see it, I just don’t ram it down people’s throats 24/7. When Griffin got the arse I wanted Madge as our next coach. I’m far from Flanno’s number 1 supporter

Griffin at least got us to a measly shit 10th in his second season.
Where do people think we will end up in another6 rounds ?
Or maybe we should just extend Flano now cause our shit results this year,like last year and the same crap next year don’t count for Flanos record yet because lots of people in here think DY is the current head coach and Flano won’t officially start coaching this team till after his well deserved extension.

 

[Dragons4me]

Emotion and frustration aside, do we think Flanno is any chance of being punted at the end of the season?

No.
SFlanno is the one having to face the scrutiny by everyone. How long before he gives in and quits? All too hard. Incompetent corporate structure etc etc. Why should he be the public face whilst the guilty are well hidden? Why put himself under the stress?

I still have faith in him.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Hey @Dragonslayer just another loss tonight but who cares, it's not a competitive sport, they're playing for fun out there and win/loss ratios are just myopic at best.
Hope you took some heart out of tonight like the rest of us loyal fans, definitely not on Flanagan's coaching at all this loss or any others

As others have pointed out already, and referring back to my post last week, Flanagan won't be replaced and will be HC in '26. Whether or not he gets an extension or is told he won't be HC in '27 won't be made until after Origin '26.
Again, I will say Flanagan has made mistakes, and i believe 1 was made last night in not including NT on the bench.

So, my question to you is "what are the roles and responsibilities of the assistant coaches?"

 

[possm]

Doust still pulling the strings

Craig Young and Peter Doust still pulling the strings.

It seems our Board Members are more concerned with minimising tax obligations.

 

[Corrimal Dragon]

Flannagan's recruitment is a massive failure

Answer sorry to Ricky Stuart who wants us to fail anyway, flannos son is nothing but a cup player at best. On those fifth tackle plays he did zero

 

[possm]

As others have pointed out already, and referring back to my post last week, Flanagan won't be replaced and will be HC in '26. Whether or not he gets an extension or is told he won't be HC in '27 won't be made until after Origin '26.
Again, I will say Flanagan has made mistakes, and i believe 1 was made last night in not including NT on the bench.

So, my question to you is "what are the roles and responsibilities of the assistant coaches?"

I made the point that NT was not selected for the bench.

With so many injuries, it's challenging to field your best team. But the 17 position should be reserved for a player who can handle the back row and center position very well.

 

[Revesby boy]

I’m a Flanno fan BUT if he doesn’t make team changes for next week I’ll start to lose faith in him, some of his selections are completely useless.

 

[possm]

Flannagan's recruitment is a massive failure

I suspect it came with terms that have frustrated his ability to do well:
1. Dean Young must be one of your assistant coaches.
2. Our Recruitment Manager is not available, so you will need to handle this until we sort that out.
3. Our GM Football (Haran) has secured extensions for key players Lawrie, Ravalawa, and Hunt.

 

[possm]

Flannagan's recruitment is a massive failure

Answer sorry to Ricky Stuart who wants us to fail anyway, flannos son is nothing but a cup player at best. On those fifth tackle plays he did zero

Yes, and if our new recruitment manager can address key issues, we may see a dramatic improvement.

We do have some really good juniors coming through. What we need is to recrit 3 marquee players in the following positions to be a top 4 side:
A marquee fullback (Gutherson to center).
A marquee halfback (to fill to spot until Reed is ready).
A marquee prop to lead our talented young forwards.

Yes, spine positions. No wonder we are struggling; we have holes in our spine. In fact we have no spine.

 

[I'm Hornby]

As others have pointed out already, and referring back to my post last week, Flanagan won't be replaced and will be HC in '26. Whether or not he gets an extension or is told he won't be HC in '27 won't be made until after Origin '26.
Again, I will say Flanagan has made mistakes, and i believe 1 was made last night in not including NT on the bench.

So, my question to you is "what are the roles and responsibilities of the assistant coaches?"

Yes I agree with your timeline on how decisions will be made relating to Flanagan's coaching future. However I would add that if the current losing streak prolongs, it will add pressure and potentially reduce the timeline.
Where I disagree is your previous statement around win/loss ratios being 'myopic at best'.
To reiterate, it is a competitive sport and coaches are judged on wins and losses alone. I challenge you to find a coach who was extended by a team after three consecutive seasons of less than 50% win loss ratio, there's almost certainly none in the NRL era and I highly doubt Flanagan would be the first.

As for your question around the roles and responsibilities of the assistant coaches, having not been privy to our coaching set up, I couldn't answer that with any degree of certainty. However what I can tell you with certainty and factuality on this topic is:

1) Flanagan appointed both assistant coaches as well as other support staff as all head coaches do.
2) Flanagan kept both assistant coaches on for this season also.
3) It is fair to assume the assistant coaches operate under the direction of the head coach and are not rogue independent actors that do whatever they please and are not accountable.

Considering those three things above, I believe Flanagan is ultimately responsible for the poor performance, be that either directly or indirectly or both, makes no difference. He is an experienced premiership winning coach and there are no excuses for why the team is still performing as badly as it has under our three previous coaches prior to Flanagan's appointment.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Yes I agree with your timeline on how decisions will be made relating to Flanagan's coaching future. However I would add that if the current losing streak prolongs, it will add pressure and potentially reduce the timeline.
Where I disagree is your previous statement around win/loss ratios being 'myopic at best'.
To reiterate, it is a competitive sport and coaches are judged on wins and losses alone. I challenge you to find a coach who was extended by a team after three consecutive seasons of less than 50% win loss ratio, there's almost certainly none in the NRL era and I highly doubt Flanagan would be the first.

As for your question around the roles and responsibilities of the assistant coaches, having not been privy to our coaching set up, I couldn't answer that with any degree of certainty. However what I can tell you with certainty and factuality on this topic is:

1) Flanagan appointed both assistant coaches as well as other support staff as all head coaches do.
2) Flanagan kept both assistant coaches on for this season also.
3) It is fair to assume the assistant coaches operate under the direction of the head coach and are not rogue independent actors that do whatever they please and are not accountable.

Considering those three things above, I believe Flanagan is ultimately responsible for the poor performance, be that either directly or indirectly or both, makes no difference. He is an experienced premiership winning coach and there are no excuses for why the team is still performing as badly as it has under our three previous coaches prior to Flanagan's appointment.

Ok, so how do you rate Wayne Bennet as a HC?

 

[I'm Hornby]

Ok, so how do you rate Wayne Bennet as a HC?

Presume you mean Wayne Bennett?

He is well past it now.

 

[Dragonslayer]

Presume you mean Wayne Bennett?

He is well past it now.

Absolutely agree, however, if he is past it, what roles and responsibilities does say Ben Hornby have?

 

[maestro1]

Personally I think Flanno is in a world of hurt but will survive the season. He needs to land some big fish for next year and time will be ticking in the first 10-12 rounds to get it right

.....And if Flanno is replaced, who do you think will be his replacement ...... yes, that's right, the Senior Assistant coach. Fxck, if you think we are struggling now, wait until DYoung gets his paws on our team. I'll be parking my multi decade membership for the period he is coach. Can't sit through another 7 years of a coach who hasnt achieved jack shit and is propelled into such a role. I'll also park my Foxtel subscription.

 

[RedV11]

Willie Peters i'd get him in

 

[I'm Hornby]

.....And if Flanno is replaced, who do you think will be his replacement ...... yes, that's right, the Senior Assistant coach. Fxck, if you think we are struggling now, wait until DYoung gets his paws on our team. I'll be parking my multi decade membership for the period he is coach. Can't sit through another 7 years of a coach who hasnt achieved jack shit and is propelled into such a role. I'll also park my Foxtel subscription.

That's not a given, just your illogical thinking.

There's plenty of coaches out there that would do much a better job than Flanagan and I am looking forward to the eventual change of coach.

 

[mattw5]

.....And if Flanno is replaced, who do you think will be his replacement ...... yes, that's right, the Senior Assistant coach. Fxck, if you think we are struggling now, wait until DYoung gets his paws on our team. I'll be parking my multi decade membership for the period he is coach. Can't sit through another 7 years of a coach who hasnt achieved jack shit and is propelled into such a role. I'll also park my Foxtel subscription.

Me too people calling for Flanagan’s head are clueless especially if they think the club will go out & find someone with any credentials the replacement is already in our system rotting away

 

[maestro1]

Me too people calling for Flanagan’s head are clueless especially if they think the club will go out & find someone with any credentials the replacement is already in our system rotting away

Exactly.
People need to think this through. If you truly believe that Dean Young is the answer, then by all means, wish and hope for a Flanno sacking. Because, if Flanno is sacked, your next coach is Deano.........as sure as shit.