Sack mcgregor tonite!!

[denis preston]

Sacking him now will achieve what ?
It wont happen anyway.

We are destined for a poor season, .. lets honour the contract and then move Mary on.

The alternative is a short measure band aid, until 2017. Who will step into this mess now ?

Isnt Mary signed up for next year as well ? Would you then honor the contract ?

 

[coast_dragons]

Honor his contract like they did with Morris, Beale, Stockwell or the deal they offered to Merrin then to lie about it.

The Dragons have no integrity, No pride, No vision, No guts and certainly future the way they are going.

Its all well and good to honor something but what honor is being shown by the way the team is playing or the way the club is being run.

The players to me have shown bar a few that they have no pride at all in actual fact some of them are worthless wage stealers who have no right to be playing the game.

 

[Objective View]

Reason to honour a contract primarily is integrity. The culture of cutting contracts short based on short term goals would bring its own problems, some highlighted on this forum e.g. Playing safe unattractive football to try to squeeze in to the eight! I agree Mary has underperformed, seems to lack vision and is stubborn. But we (Dragons fans and club) need to harden up and honour his contract. The club will be better positioned for it IMHO.

This is a professional sport, mate. YOU need to harden up.

Long term improvement starts now.

Straight Shooter

 

[Objective View]

All debate about integrity and the like can be set aside in the world of professional sports. All that matters is the result.

Unfortunately we are beholden to the purse strings of the NRL due to the mismanagement of the club. To this end (and I am very surprised that the NRL has not pushed for change) the senior management team must be cleared out.

If we can get Bruce Gordon involved together with a football savvy and commercially orientated senior football administration we will move forward. Until then we are stuck with the current position; and that includes Paul McGregor as coach.

The sad bit for me is that we have a decent roster, but we are very poorly coached and motivated. As much as I love Dean Young and Ben Hornby what senior coaching experience do they bring to the 1st grade squad? Nothing is the answer. They would be better off moving to the ESL for a 3 year stint and then returning to the club.

As for McGregor I actually felt sorry for him on Monday night at the press conference. He looks confused. He does not know what to do. It is awkward watching someone so inept and realising that he might be coming to the same conclusion is somewhat sad.

Price had the same resigned look around the time of the Parramatta game in 2014. It was embarrassing.

Buckle in folks. Winter is coming. It is going to get colder and more bleak down Kogarah and Wollongong way before the sun shines again. I think this bleakness has no end in sight unfortunately !

All good points, except the one about Mary realising his ineptitude.

The guy has no insight whatsoever, otherwise he'd do the honourable thing and resign.

Straight Shooter

 

[Miller was a legend]

All good points, except the one about Mary realising his ineptitude.

The guy has no insight whatsoever, otherwise he'd do the honourable thing and resign.

Straight Shooter

The sad thing is all of that can change with one of these -






Re-sign

 

[BennyV]

Sacking him now will achieve what ?
It wont happen anyway.

We are destined for a poor season, .. lets honour the contract and then move Mary on.

The alternative is a short measure band aid, until 2017. Who will step into this mess now ?

You do realise that McGregor is contracted for next year too, don't you? So honouring his contract would mean throwing away the 2017 season and upping our bullshit rebuilding years to 6 in total, plus however long it takes a competent coach to actually rebuild the team.

Sacking him now will show that we are not happy with the mediocrity that runs through our club. It's a start at least. Announcing a new coach sooner, rather than later, would allow said new coach to start looking into recruitment and building the squad they want for for next. Hell, if we announced a decent coach like Madge or Cleary it might even sway some players that are considering signing but currently unlikely. Allowing someone like Demetriou to act head coach in the mean time will give our players a shake up, allow some new combinations and there's a chance he could work with said new coach to bring certain players through and see if they are worth holding on to.

SOOOOO MANY BENEFITS. As I said, we've got no integrity anyway, better to start the long term gain now.

 

[since77]

This Honouring a contract argument is rubbish. In the first place, smart business people negotiate a contract that covers many eventualities, including the eventuality that the business relationship may not work or benefit both parties. Smart contracts includes exit strategies - in a football teams case that should include KPI's or other agreed minimum performance standards. If those standards aren't met, then the business relationship can end.
In the second place, when was the last time a rugby league contract meant total security for both parties?

 

[JohnnoMcJohnno]

This Honouring a contract argument is rubbish. In the first place, smart business people negotiate a contract that covers many eventualities, including the eventuality that the business relationship may not work or benefit both parties. Smart contracts includes exit strategies - in a football teams case that should include KPI's or other agreed minimum performance standards. If those standards aren't met, then the business relationship can end.
In the second place, when was the last time a rugby league contract meant total security for both parties?

Was about to say something similar. Many contracts area a set of conditions that parties agree to comply with for the agreed term, but which either party can terminate (with appropriate notice) for a whole stack of reasons. Poor performance would be one, bringing the club into disrepute, not satisfactorily fulfilling your duties and obligations, acting in disregard to board instructions, etc etc.

None of us will know what is in the contract exactly, but I'm sure there is something there if the board really wanted to get rid of Mary.

 

[SaintPauli]

Coaches make teams!
Players want to join coaches!
Unfortunately No one of any quality wants to join dragons.

A player from outside our club sees woeful attack and emphasis on defence. However the defence has gone too. Where is the attraction?

Sad, but that is a reality check on our current coach who should swallow his pride and step aside for the benefit of the clubs future.

Our next coach MUST BE
Experienced
Proven track record over 60% wins
Known for "developing players"
Known for "recruiting players"

INVEST IN A TOP LINE COACH NOW
Or for at least next year
With Mary to willfully step aside.

 

[taxidriver]

This is a absolutely utter rubbish - a team that's obviously not buying into the ciChes methods.. There's no discipline, structure , game plan - nothing!!

He's got to go!!

this post is 18 months out of date

 

[hazzbeen]

You do realise that McGregor is contracted for next year too, don't you? So honouring his contract would mean throwing away the 2017 season and upping our bullshit rebuilding years to 6 in total, plus however long it takes a competent coach to actually rebuild the team.

Sacking him now will show that we are not happy with the mediocrity that runs through our club. It's a start at least. Announcing a new coach sooner, rather than later, would allow said new coach to start looking into recruitment and building the squad they want for for next. Hell, if we announced a decent coach like Madge or Cleary it might even sway some players that are considering signing but currently unlikely. Allowing someone like Demetriou to act head coach in the mean time will give our players a shake up, allow some new combinations and there's a chance he could work with said new coach to bring certain players through and see if they are worth holding on to.

SOOOOO MANY BENEFITS. As I said, we've got no integrity anyway, better to start the long term gain now.

x2

 

[TruSaint]

Happy to let Mary move on...
Not so sure anyone has given a viable replacement.

Ive heard Toovey / Cleary.

As to proven 60% success rate, mentioned by some member, ... good luck.

We need a change. Mary has failed. The 2 games did that for me. N
Z and manly.

 

[Miller was a legend]

Madge

 

[TruSaint]

Madge

Maybe bro

Just saying our options are not that great.

 

[duck]

Maybe bro

Just saying our options are not that great.

I'm available.

 

[thebigredv]

Sack McGregor!!! - why is he still coaching? Players do not believe in him.

Anything is better for us right now. Sack him.

Duges for Captain Coach

 

[St Georgio]

Why not Tony Smith?

 

[Gareth67]

Would Laurie Daley be available after the S.O.O. ? Or is he related to Paul MacGregor ?

 

[interest88]

Would Laurie Daley be available after the S.O.O. ? Or is he related to Paul MacGregor ?

Laurie Daley coaches from the St.George play book, so he only coaches losing sides.

 

[epDragon62]

Why not Tony Smith?

Because, for the umpteenth time, the guy has said he is not interested in coming back to Aus. He and his family are settled in the UK (think his wife is a Pom?).

Cleary is available. Madge, maybe.

One thing is clear, Mary does not know what to do. As mentioned by others he has a lost look on his face in the presser... if he is honourable he will fall on his sword.