Sack mcgregor

[Old Timer]

Just a quick reply to benny vs last post ...structure ? Were you living under a rock last year ,we brought in the cowboys attacking coach and played to a structure all year and we all know how that worked out . That type of game plan don't work for us, besides that I think it's refreshing to play a different style rather than trying to play to a certain structure , it makes it harder for teams to defend and the players seem to enjoy it . I think if we can hold on to the ball a bit more and continue this style of footy we'll be successful this year . I do however agree with you on the fact that our second rowers need to be running a bit closer to the edges rather than up the middle .

Not quite sure what you are trying to say in respect of JD, the Cowboys and our structure from last year?
This years football is a modest upgrade from last year with the difference Mc Inness being able to deliver good consistent ball from DH and Vaughan providing the go forward that others have jumped on the back off.
Our edge forwards are used just as badly this year as last (not seen again since thumping and underwhelming Panthers) and the bench utilisation actually worse than last year.
It will not be about just holding onto the ball it will be about who scores the points when the forwards are held or ineffective in any games and that will surely happen at some point.

 

[mickeylane]

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I've changed my mind. I was wrong about McGregor, he's an excellent coach.

In fact he's so good I think the Bulldogs should forget about extending Hasler and make a big play to sign McGregor as their next coach ASAP!

You may laugh but he seems to have all the players support even WIDDOP who was quoted this morning saying that "Mcgregor has to be congratulated on how he turned the team culture around and devised a very simple game plan for the team to follow based on playing off the back of one of the biggest packs in the NRL"
Mcgregor is staying take it as read!!!

 

[mickeylane]

The power forward pack plan.is dragons struggling into the 8.we need a plan that can win a comp..Basically we need to blood New players.McGregor trying to save his job.Sack McGregor and doust

Dragons are the Leicester of the NRL.. The longer we keep winning the longer we will keep asking ourselves "surely there's a form slump coming"" just enjoy the ride boys - media are saying we have the form pack, best attack , and only team in the NRL playing. A power game..

We are playing to our strengths like any good team does - Field and Leilua wil get their chances - I'm hoping for their sake theyRe ready when the chance arrives because right now the current 17 deserve their positions ..

 

[grouch]

Hang on kids.......Mad Madges team finished BEHIND Marys team last year! And he had a superior roster! Like many players.. Mad Madge is a myth of a coach. One year does not make a legend. Repeat after me....SOUTHS FINISHED BEHIND US. Now stay back in detention and write it on the board 100 times. What was the reason Madges little Wabitoh team finished behind us? Was it because Soufs opposition scored too many tries from kicks just like they did against us?

ffs you are dumb

 

[mickeylane]

Why would u bri

The majority of thoughts on this forum was that even if McGregor was to get us deep into finals, they wanted see to a new coach, my thoughts, Wait until End of Season a then make a decision, but I must say the dragons are doing well considering we have a crap number 7 and a top center playing fullback, I am sure McGregor could Be even better with Hunt in his cut and paste team.
Mann needs more game time, in the second half McGregor could have used Mann a lot more and he didn't, that is where McGregor falls short as a good NRL coach. 1 try in the second was not good enough, the end result should have been at least 36-12.

why would u bring MANN on to do what?? Who would he replace? He's only there to cover for any injury or blatant fatigue in the backline because the player can cover every position in the backline - there is no intention from Mcgregor to play him any more minutes than he has to - so when he sees that there's no need to throw him in by the 70 minute he gives him some token minutes just to do the right thing - MANN knows exactly his role don't think Mcgregir hasn't told him .. You must understand we have a forward. Pack that most of the front rowers can play 60 min easily - there are no Kasianos in our forwards the whole back row can play 80 min if need be but he has Host there to come on and give the the back 3 little breathers - the front row rotation is perfect w Simms and Ah Mau - U don't need Leilua at this stage as his defence is questionable and as it stands we are scoring 25 points per game so our attack is doing the job albeit the back line looking clunky at times.
Milne is doing FA in reserves to justify a call up so let him be ..

 

[Old Timer]

mickeylane
You obviously have frost bite of the brain (in your pecker probably) due to too many nudey runs.
We are not scoring 25 points a game at all, we are averaging 25 points a game after a 42 point scoreline in the 1st round. So if you use averages then we are 58 points from last 3 rounds or < 20 points / game so how does that equate to our attack is doing its job?
That will not get you to the semis IMO.
Re the bench your assertion is mis-guided IMO.
Good coaches hook players that are playing poorly and Aitken save the Sharks game and Mc Crone have been ordinary if not sub par and Mann would have been an upgrade.
Our forwards are certainly fit and can play long minutes but the wear and tear factor will take its toll due to Host only getting 10 - 12 minutes on the paddock.
Either have 4 forwards on the bench and use them properly to mitigate fatigue and to counter oppositions power push with fresh players before and after half time or have a back and utilise him with Mc Crone going to hooker to give Mc Inness a break although he is really looking like an 80 minute player.
No team will survive the year doing what we are with our bench it is just plain dumb and digging a hole for us.

 

[OzDragon]

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You may laugh but he seems to have all the players support even WIDDOP who was quoted this morning saying that "Mcgregor has to be congratulated on how he turned the team culture around and devised a very simple game plan for the team to follow based on playing off the back of one of the biggest packs in the NRL"
Mcgregor is staying take it as read!!!

If the plan this year is so simple as Widdop said, why couldn't he implement it in years past?

Sure as f**k didn't have a complicated game plan back then. Or any for that matter

 

[mickeylane]

mickeylane
You obviously have frost bite of the brain (in your pecker probably) due to too many nudey runs.
We are not scoring 25 points a game at all, we are averaging 25 points a game after a 42 point scoreline in the 1st round. So if you use averages then we are 58 points from last 3 rounds or < 20 points / game so how does that equate to our attack is doing its job?
That will not get you to the semis IMO.
Re the bench your assertion is mis-guided IMO.
Good coaches hook players that are playing poorly and Aitken save the Sharks game and Mc Crone have been ordinary if not sub par and Mann would have been an upgrade.
Our forwards are certainly fit and can play long minutes but the wear and tear factor will take its toll due to Host only getting 10 - 12 minutes on the paddock.
Either have 4 forwards on the bench and use them properly to mitigate fatigue and to counter oppositions power push with fresh players before and after half time or have a back and utilise him with Mc Crone going to hooker to give Mc Inness a break although he is really looking like an 80 minute player.
No team will survive the year doing what we are with our bench it is just plain dumb and digging a hole for us.

Let me tell you right now as we stand - we are all wrong and Mcgregor is 100% right! The runs are on the board and the team is one of the form teams in the NRL you can't ask for any more - to sit here and assume the worst is crazy thinking! It's like saying the earth is going to implode some day! Your stating the obvious! The team the way it is set up atm is performing and getting results -I like you have preferences - I love Jai Field and Dufty but u can't seriously slot them in atm because the team is performing as is - regarding Host usage maybe Mcgregor wants the senior players playing longer min to ensure that the game plan is perfectly executed.. All in all none of us cAn Bag the Teams performance so I believe it's better left unsaid until such time that they are open for criticism - now is not the time!

 

[mickeylane]

If the plan this year is so simple as Widdop said, why couldn't he implement it in years past?

Sure as f**k didn't have a complicated game plan back then. Or any for that matter

There's no doubt inept players like Rein and Benji is key positions let the team down plus add in Vaughan and Mcinness and Mcdonald and the teams size has grown - different cattle to last year and wil only get better next year w Hunt and another front rower ..

 

[SEAT 1A]

MANN is on the bench because he can cover
Fullback, Wing, centre,5/8, 7 it's that simple - he's not there to cover Mcrone etc.. Stop dreaming!

Thought Mary was also covering for any HIA's. When Duges went down in the Sharks, perfect situation then nothing and with it my theory on the HIA however, may be a waist on a bench position, still think it's a good option for player welfare.

 

[Capital]

It wouldn't be bad if Brisbane put a score on the Grubs and Tigers put a score on us. Then at least we have an excuse to dump McGregor. Hasler has screwed up with recruitment over there really badly. The treacherous rat Morris was already passed his best, Mbye is a lemon as is the hooker. But I still believe it would be a coup to get Hasler. Especially if he isn't on big money which if he isn't wanted by any other clubs, is a possibility. Though I think the Warriors are going to in the market for a new coach sooner rather than later.

 

[grouch]

It wouldn't be bad if Brisbane put a score on the Grubs and Tigers put a score on us. Then at least we have an excuse to dump McGregor. Hasler has screwed up with recruitment over there really badly. The treacherous rat Morris was already passed his best, Mbye is a lemon as is the hooker. But I still believe it would be a coup to get Hasler. Especially if he isn't on big money which if he isn't wanted by any other clubs, is a possibility. Though I think the Warriors are going to in the market for a new coach sooner rather than later.

loveoursaints will be here soon to tell you how terrible a coach Hasler is

 

[Capital]

loveoursaints will be here soon to tell you how terrible a coach Hasler is

He or she is welcome to his or her opinion.

 

[getsmarty]

Let me tell you right now as we stand - we are all wrong and Mcgregor is 100% right! The runs are on the board and the team is one of the form teams in the NRL you can't ask for any more - to sit here and assume the worst is crazy thinking! It's like saying the earth is going to implode some day! Your stating the obvious! The team the way it is set up atm is performing and getting results -I like you have preferences - I love Jai Field and Dufty but u can't seriously slot them in atm because the team is performing as is - regarding Host usage maybe Mcgregor wants the senior players playing longer min to ensure that the game plan is perfectly executed.. All in all none of us cAn Bag the Teams performance so I believe it's better left unsaid until such time that they are open for criticism - now is not the time!

Agree Mickey..too early to say. The Big question is can we win a premiership with McGregor as head Coach ? Judging from what I have witnessed over the last few years and including this year the answer is NO.

My prediction is that the "Power Game " that has been employed by our coach is not sustainable over an entire season. We were leading the comp back in 2015 and it all eventually crumbled. That being said , a Coach with the runs on the board would be better prepared to deal with these type of scenarios.

Many things within the club have changed for the better...Recruitment/B.Johnson. I see the appointment of an experienced coach ( at the right time) as the missing piece of the jigsaw. Well done to Paul MacGregor on results so far this season and hopefully we continue on our winning ways.

 

[Gippsy]

I reckon it's simple. The only way Mary should get an extension is if he wins the comp this year.

If he does he should get another 12 months. Then, if he doesn't go back to back he's gone.

Harsh but fair.

 

[Crush]

Agree Mickey..too early to say. The Big question is can we win a premiership with McGregor as head Coach ? Judging from what I have witnessed over the last few years and including this year the answer is NO.

My prediction is that the "Power Game " that has been employed by our coach is not sustainable over an entire season. We were leading the comp back in 2015 and it all eventually crumbled. That being said , a Coach with the runs on the board would be better prepared to deal with these type of scenarios.

Many things within the club have changed for the better...Recruitment/B.Johnson. I see the appointment of an experienced coach ( at the right time) as the missing piece of the jigsaw. Well done to Paul MacGregor on results so far this season and hopefully we continue on our winning ways.

Can we win a comp with josh mccrone as halfback is a better question. I don't think any coach could win a comp without a halfback.
Can mary win a comp with hunt at halfback that should be the question.

 

[Old Timer]

Let me tell you right now as we stand - we are all wrong and Mcgregor is 100% right! The runs are on the board and the team is one of the form teams in the NRL you can't ask for any more - to sit here and assume the worst is crazy thinking! It's like saying the earth is going to implode some day! Your stating the obvious! The team the way it is set up atm is performing and getting results -I like you have preferences - I love Jai Field and Dufty but u can't seriously slot them in atm because the team is performing as is - regarding Host usage maybe Mcgregor wants the senior players playing longer min to ensure that the game plan is perfectly executed.. All in all none of us cAn Bag the Teams performance so I believe it's better left unsaid until such time that they are open for criticism - now is not the time!

Please re read my post.
We are not scoring 25 points / game as you suggest.
Do you think < 20 points / game will be good enough to get you enough wins to be in the semis because that is the reality as it stands over the last 3 games?
To be fair the Penrith was great but more of an exception than the norm.

 

[Crush]

loveoursaints will be here soon to tell you how terrible a coach Hasler is

Hasler, no thanks. Dinosaur.

 

[grouch]

Hasler, no thanks. Dinosaur.

 

[to_ddeath]

Can we win a comp with josh mccrone as halfback is a better question. I don't think any coach could win a comp without a halfback.
Can mary win a comp with hunt at halfback that should be the question.

Geez...how many more chances shall we give to McGregor...if its a lack of halfback this year..then will it be a lack of a rep fullback next year?
Regardless of where we sit now...blokes had too long in the top job. It shouldn't be a 4-5 year apprenticeship FFS.