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TruSaint

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I would never support a team that was playing against us, if I did it would never be the bullgrubs, hate that team.

If Mary did fall on his sword I would change my opinion of him.

Your first sentence says it all. Cannot fathom supporting another team. I get the anger / frustration / etc, and yes as Hazza and many other have said, Mary is not the man. But FFS... Me, sitting in the stand hoping for a flogging to achieve ( or maybe not achieve ), a goal is impossible.
 

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We are a divided club on and off the field... It really is a shame that we should even be debating this stuff. And before I get slammed, Im not being pro one way or the other.

Media is thriving on this.

Fans walking ( which is their right to do so )... Members not renewing.. Its a sad state.

Yet from all the debates, I have yet to see a solution. Short term, terminate Mary's coaching job... Agree.. What next ? Replace the board in its entirity ? Wont happen. Sell to Gordon ? Maybe, but what are his demands ? For his investment, ( which will be dilluted based on matters at hand ), what is his vision ?

We are the cross roads, and real reform needed. I will leave it to those with greater knowledge to lend a solution ..
 

thebigredv

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The root of the problem is stubborn, selfishness at the top. I don't understand why it is so hard for McGregor and Doust just to accept that their performance is below par and at the very least admit it, let alone let someone else have a go for the good of their club.

At this stage I would never question any Dragons fan for their action to not attend or not renew membership, or even to hope we lose to bring about change. I cannot do the latter myself but we are DESPERATE.
 

grouch

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We are a divided club on and off the field... It really is a shame that we should even be debating this stuff. And before I get slammed, Im not being pro one way or the other.

Media is thriving on this.

Fans walking ( which is their right to do so )... Members not renewing.. Its a sad state.

Yet from all the debates, I have yet to see a solution. Short term, terminate Mary's coaching job... Agree.. What next ? Replace the board in its entirity ? Wont happen. Sell to Gordon ? Maybe, but what are his demands ? For his investment, ( which will be dilluted based on matters at hand ), what is his vision ?

We are the cross roads, and real reform needed. I will leave it to those with greater knowledge to lend a solution ..
Based on the club's statements - there is no problem.

We need to keep agitating for change in order for the club to even accept there is a problem. Because otherwise we are stuck with the status quo of mediocrity.

ps has the drunk been sacked yet?
 

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problem is that McGregor has already stated they cannot blood due to salary cap constraints, whilst it doesn't add up he's on record saying it probably won't happen

I heard that as well. We can however give players within our cap, whom havent had much NRL time a chance. I would even be happy if JD took over the reigns for the last 6 weeks.
 

Red V for life

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I heard that as well. We can however give players within our cap, whom havent had much NRL time a chance. I would even be happy if JD took over the reigns for the last 6 weeks.
Have been thinking the exact same thing. Would cost very little and could give a better idea as to what path to walk in regards to coaching, recruitment and retention.

The club could spin it somehow or they could keep it quiet, but surely it's worth a try.
 

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Have been thinking the exact same thing. Would cost very little and could give a better idea as to what path to walk in regards to coaching, recruitment and retention.

The club could spin it somehow or they could keep it quiet, but surely it's worth a try.

Action is better than no action. Agree. We really have nothing to lose.
 

St Georgio

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Oh NRL Heritage Round, take me back to a simpler time when Dragons were great


  • Andrew Webster SMH
  • It's NRL Retro Round, baby, and it takes us back to a time when the jumpers were too big, Greg Hartley's shorts too small and an apple hit Rex Mossop in the side of the head during a post-grand final wrap.
It also takes some of us back to a time when a fat kid from the north coast was plonked in front of his parents' Rank Arena television, watching the State Bank Big Game, full of hopes and dreams and too many Redskins.
Tigers breeze past Dragons
The Wests Tigers have put aside a week of off-field drama to easily beat the Dragons, 25-12.
Modern-day gladiators in white jumpers emblazoned with a Red V would trot out onto Kogarah Oval and I adored them like a Star Wars action figure. loved Craig Young like he was my old man. I still get nervous when I'm in the company of Ricky Walford. My mum continues to have an unhealthy obsession with Michael O'Connor. Mick "The Penguin" Beattie. Steve Linnane. Patty Jarvis. Billy Noke. Graeme Wynn ...
  • And then there was the very serious looking bloke on the sidelines, leaning forward in a maroon spray jacket, the weight of the world seemingly on his shoulders as he watched through Mafia Don-like glasses: coach Roy Masters.
The players would trudge from the field at the end of the match, the white jumpers now covered in dirt and mud, and it didn't matter if they'd lost or won but how many rival forwards they successfully thwacked in the head.
Then they lost the 1985 grand final to those evil, evil, evil [expletives] from Canterbury and a harsh reality came to be.
Sometimes, as a Dragons supporter, you're Luke Skywalker. Sometimes, it feels like you have a terminal disease.

1469692185256.jpg

Despite the dramas, the Red V is a part of me, still.
Right now, we're at stage-four s---house. It's serious.

Oh, Dragons. What's happening? You're 11th on the ladder and only one win out of the top eight but I've seen pub sides with better attack on the field and you can't land a player off it.

You threw the bank at a player charged with drug possession, who was in the middle of a sex-tape scandal, who'd been warned by the cops for rubbing shoulders with bad people and he still didn't come.

I could sit here and bash out hundreds of words about chief executivePeter "Oust" Doust, about there being no accountability for frustrated members, about how WIN billionaire Bruce Gordon needs to buy the whole operation and secure the elusive Craig Bellamy-Cooper Cronk package deal.

But these words have been written and said for years, on either side of the 2010 grand final win. The banner in the stands on that beautiful night: "CHOKE ON THAT!" It seems an eternity ago.

Since then, the club has seen quality players leave for others. How the Morris twins, Brett and Josh, can be playing for the Bulldogs still staggers. So, too, Trent Merrin at Penrith.

1469675309041.png

Should still be at their home club: Former Dragons duo Brett and Josh Morris. Photo: Ken Robertson KRZ

With the greatest respect to Paul McGregor, he does not seem to have the pulling power of a top-line coach.

As one very high-profile player who is looking for a club told me this week: "I couldn't go there in a million years at the moment."

There's an argument the club needs to base itself out of Kogarah again instead of Wollongong, because prospective players want to live in Sydney. But this is a joint venture. Maybe they need to go back to splitting training time between Kogarah and Wollongong.

Whatever the solution, the club has slipped back into this apathetic mire of the odd spirited win here, a lot of bad losses there. A staleness has crept in and it shows in their footy.

The first half against the Wests Tigers last Sunday was as bad as it gets. Sometimes I want Benji Marshall gone; sometimes I think he's the best we've got.

Luckily, as St George Illawarra fans will attest, we're a resilient bunch. We've been hurt before. You don't lose grand finals via video referee in the last two minutes and learn a little bit about yourself and about rugby league.

But if there was ever any sign that things could not get any worse, it comes with this single, sobering statistic ...

Cronulla have won 15 in a row and are favourites to win the comp.

Somebody, please, kill me now.
 

blacksafake

First Grade
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Oh NRL Heritage Round, take me back to a simpler time when Dragons were great


  • Andrew Webster SMH
  • It's NRL Retro Round, baby, and it takes us back to a time when the jumpers were too big, Greg Hartley's shorts too small and an apple hit Rex Mossop in the side of the head during a post-grand final wrap.
It also takes some of us back to a time when a fat kid from the north coast was plonked in front of his parents' Rank Arena television, watching the State Bank Big Game, full of hopes and dreams and too many Redskins.
Tigers breeze past Dragons
The Wests Tigers have put aside a week of off-field drama to easily beat the Dragons, 25-12.
Modern-day gladiators in white jumpers emblazoned with a Red V would trot out onto Kogarah Oval and I adored them like a Star Wars action figure. loved Craig Young like he was my old man. I still get nervous when I'm in the company of Ricky Walford. My mum continues to have an unhealthy obsession with Michael O'Connor. Mick "The Penguin" Beattie. Steve Linnane. Patty Jarvis. Billy Noke. Graeme Wynn ...
  • And then there was the very serious looking bloke on the sidelines, leaning forward in a maroon spray jacket, the weight of the world seemingly on his shoulders as he watched through Mafia Don-like glasses: coach Roy Masters.
The players would trudge from the field at the end of the match, the white jumpers now covered in dirt and mud, and it didn't matter if they'd lost or won but how many rival forwards they successfully thwacked in the head.
Then they lost the 1985 grand final to those evil, evil, evil [expletives] from Canterbury and a harsh reality came to be.
Sometimes, as a Dragons supporter, you're Luke Skywalker. Sometimes, it feels like you have a terminal disease.

1469692185256.jpg

Despite the dramas, the Red V is a part of me, still.
Right now, we're at stage-four s---house. It's serious.

Oh, Dragons. What's happening? You're 11th on the ladder and only one win out of the top eight but I've seen pub sides with better attack on the field and you can't land a player off it.

You threw the bank at a player charged with drug possession, who was in the middle of a sex-tape scandal, who'd been warned by the cops for rubbing shoulders with bad people and he still didn't come.

I could sit here and bash out hundreds of words about chief executivePeter "Oust" Doust, about there being no accountability for frustrated members, about how WIN billionaire Bruce Gordon needs to buy the whole operation and secure the elusive Craig Bellamy-Cooper Cronk package deal.

But these words have been written and said for years, on either side of the 2010 grand final win. The banner in the stands on that beautiful night: "CHOKE ON THAT!" It seems an eternity ago.

Since then, the club has seen quality players leave for others. How the Morris twins, Brett and Josh, can be playing for the Bulldogs still staggers. So, too, Trent Merrin at Penrith.

1469675309041.png

Should still be at their home club: Former Dragons duo Brett and Josh Morris. Photo: Ken Robertson KRZ

With the greatest respect to Paul McGregor, he does not seem to have the pulling power of a top-line coach.

As one very high-profile player who is looking for a club told me this week: "I couldn't go there in a million years at the moment."

There's an argument the club needs to base itself out of Kogarah again instead of Wollongong, because prospective players want to live in Sydney. But this is a joint venture. Maybe they need to go back to splitting training time between Kogarah and Wollongong.

Whatever the solution, the club has slipped back into this apathetic mire of the odd spirited win here, a lot of bad losses there. A staleness has crept in and it shows in their footy.

The first half against the Wests Tigers last Sunday was as bad as it gets. Sometimes I want Benji Marshall gone; sometimes I think he's the best we've got.

Luckily, as St George Illawarra fans will attest, we're a resilient bunch. We've been hurt before. You don't lose grand finals via video referee in the last two minutes and learn a little bit about yourself and about rugby league.

But if there was ever any sign that things could not get any worse, it comes with this single, sobering statistic ...

Cronulla have won 15 in a row and are favourites to win the comp.

Somebody, please, kill me now.
Well i hope the board sees this. Interesting about player not going anywhere near "that" club, Farah?
 

St Georgio

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Well i hope the board sees this. Interesting about player not going anywhere near "that" club, Farah?
It's embarrassing to think Farah doesn't want to come to us, when most here don't even want him, under Browny and Bennett we had every old hooker in the game wanting to join, the likes of Priddis and co!
Farah will probably end up at Parra, Manly or Sharks!
 
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Well i hope the board sees this. Interesting about player not going anywhere near "that" club, Farah?

Probably Hayne.. They will both more than likely end up at Parra...

Board has no idea ... I really don't think any big names would even be considering us.. No matter the offer.

And then you have a peanut coach who thinks we are ahead of schedule.. Over achievers!
 

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