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Sack mcgregor

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Interesting article on NRL.com about the run to the finals.
Breaking it down and adding in my own predictions I see:

Roosters - 32 play Raiders (w), Broncos (w) and Eels (w) = 38 points
Rabbits - 32 play Broncos (w), Raiders (w) and Tigers (w) = 38 points
Storm - 30 play Eels (w), Titans (w) and Panthers (w) = 36 points
Panthers 30 play Knights (w), Warriors (L) and Storm (L) = 32 points
Dragons 28 play Tigers (L), Bulldogs (w) and Knights (L) = 30 points
Sharks 28 play Cowboys (w), Knights (w) and Bulldogs (w) = 34 points
Warriors 28 play Bulldogs (w), Panthers (w) and Raiders (w) = 34 points
Broncos 26 play Rabbits (L), Roosters (L) and Manly (w) = 28 points (-10 for and against)

Tigers 24 play Dragons (w), Manly (w) and Rabbits (L) = 28 points (-34 for and against)

We will either scrape in the 8 in 7th or 8th spot only due to our for and against. This of course could be hammered over the next 3 weeks so missing the 8 is a real mathematical possibility on for and against.

How embarrassing would that be...………….surely even given above, limping into the 8 in 7th or 8th spot surely sounds the death knell to McGregor.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/13/your-teams-run-to-the-finals-wests-tigers-on-broncos-tail/
A win against the Dogs? Big call.
Morris boys last games for the Dogs, if they’re not injured, at Kogarah, keen to rub it our noses.
I think we get well beaten that day.
 

TheFrog

Coach
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Interesting article on NRL.com about the run to the finals.
Breaking it down and adding in my own predictions I see:

Roosters - 32 play Raiders (w), Broncos (w) and Eels (w) = 38 points
Rabbits - 32 play Broncos (w), Raiders (w) and Tigers (w) = 38 points
Storm - 30 play Eels (w), Titans (w) and Panthers (w) = 36 points
Panthers 30 play Knights (w), Warriors (L) and Storm (L) = 32 points
Dragons 28 play Tigers (L), Bulldogs (w) and Knights (L) = 30 points
Sharks 28 play Cowboys (w), Knights (w) and Bulldogs (w) = 34 points
Warriors 28 play Bulldogs (w), Panthers (w) and Raiders (w) = 34 points
Broncos 26 play Rabbits (L), Roosters (L) and Manly (w) = 28 points (-10 for and against)

Tigers 24 play Dragons (w), Manly (w) and Rabbits (L) = 28 points (-34 for and against)

We will either scrape in the 8 in 7th or 8th spot only due to our for and against. This of course could be hammered over the next 3 weeks so missing the 8 is a real mathematical possibility on for and against.

How embarrassing would that be...………….surely even given above, limping into the 8 in 7th or 8th spot surely sounds the death knell to McGregor.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/13/your-teams-run-to-the-finals-wests-tigers-on-broncos-tail/
We beat the Warriors 36-4 a few weeks ago and we'll have a much better side on the park this time. The match is a top 4 playoff.
 

chiefy1

Bench
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McGregor's ruptured his sack and is will have scans tomorrow. 2-3 weeks depending on the severity of the rupture.
 
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Meapro Ham

Juniors
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Every time I read an interview with McGregor he always seem to talk about how they need to get back to what was working early in the season. Maybe that’s the problem, too focussed on trying to recreate what was working earlier instead of just focusing on the next game
 

Life's Good

Coach
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Yep and the players aren't playing up to those standards. They were at the start of the year, now they are making SCHOOLBOY ERRORS. Dumb penalties, poor ball handling, and soft defensive errors. They weren't doing that at the start of the season. Now they are.

If you think Mary has reduced his standards over the course of the year than you may wanna think again.

Players arent emotionasll in it. They've read too many papers. Believed the naysayers. One little crack and they saw a giant hole. Players making school boy mistakes falls on players shoulders..

They should hang their heads in shame and apologize to the supporters.

I don’t disagree with your sentiment. Some of the players had absolute stinkers on Saturday night & should rightly hand their pay back.
I disagree about ‘Mary dropping his standards though’. He doesn’t appear to have them to enforce. Through 16, 17 & this year we have seen Aitken & Lafai drop form yet continue to be picked. Why would they believe their position is under threat when he keeps selecting them? I could cite Rein in 2016 as well. Throw in Nighty too.
The fact is we’re flat track bullies that can’t handle the game going against us. It’s his job to either a)ensure the players he selects buy in to what he is selling b)take appropriate measures when they don’t.
We’re in the position on account of his inability to refresh the squad through blooding players or alternating game plan. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

Life's Good

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Every time I read an interview with McGregor he always seem to talk about how they need to get back to what was working early in the season. Maybe that’s the problem, too focussed on trying to recreate what was working earlier instead of just focusing on the next game
It’s a clear example of his inability to get the best out of the team, be it rotation of players or developing a game plan outside of the much vaunted ‘power game’.
3 out of 4 years his coaching has led us here(2016 was a car crash).
He must be holding pictures of someone doing something they shouldn’t be doing.
 
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It’s a clear example of his inability to get the best out of the team, be it rotation of players or developing a game plan outside of the much vaunted ‘power game’.
3 out of 4 years his coaching has led us here(2016 was a car crash).
He must be holding pictures of someone doing something they shouldn’t be doing.
Doust.

Come to think of it, I haven’t seen much of ole Dousty this year.
Maybe the board have been “Weekend at Bernieing” him since 2015 and he’s finally got too mushy to pull it off anymore so they are saying he’s “retiring”
 

dragon-83

Juniors
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Chokers! The stunning graph that highlights St George Illawarra’s big problem
DRAGONS

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The Dragons' worrying trend of choking.Source: FOX SPORTS
“CHOKE” is the taboo word inside the four walls of Dragons HQ, but there’s no denying the reputation St George Illawarra is building.

The club looked like the best thing going just a couple of short months ago when they led the NRL. They looked a sure thing to take out the minor premiership, and bookies had them at short odds to win the title in 2018.

Fast forward to Round 23 and the Red V are tumbling down the ladder, now sitting outside the top four and struggling big time.








A 40-4 loss at the hands of competition also-ran Parramatta on Saturday is their lowest point … so far.









HUNT’S NIGHTMARE: $6 million man’s shocking stats



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Lazy Hunt gifts Eels a try

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In 2017 they amazingly spent the first 18 weeks of the season inside the top eight, holding top spot for two rounds early in the year, before dramatically falling away on form.

Their slide was so bad last year they fell out of finals contention altogether.

Their reputation as chokers was well and truly set after that dismal 2017, but no one expected it to be quite so bad this season.

This year the Dragons have sat in first place for 14 weeks in total. They momentarily dropped to second for one round, before reclaiming the number one spot and staying there for three weeks post-Origin.

But their decline over the past two months is stark, and worrying.

“Choke” is the best way to describe it.



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Dragon unfazed by thumping?

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STORY OF THE SEASONS

Here is the ladder position of the Dragons, in order from round 1 to the end of the home-and-away season, for each of the past five seasons.

The trend is clearly when they start the season well they slide down the ladder towards the end.

Steve Price was ruthlessly sacked from the coaching chair after a few losses in 2014, replaced by the man who now wears the crown.

Season 2014 (Steve Price sacked mid-year): 3rd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 6th, 9th, 6th, 9th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 12th, 11th, 12th, 10th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th

Season 2015: 12th, 15th, 12th, 11th, 8th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 7th, 9th, 10th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, lost first final

Season 2016: 9th, 13th, 13th, 12th, 14th, 14th, 13th, 9th, 11th, 7th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 12th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th

Season 2017: 6th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 5th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th

Season 2018*: 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th

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Fox Sports Lab highlights the drop off in Dragons' run metres differential during games this season.Source: FOX SPORTS
FORWARD FAILURE

It’s hard to pinpoint the reason for St George Illawarra’s ability to get worse as a season drags on.

But this graphic (see above) from Fox Sports Labhighlights a disturbing trend for the team this season.

The run metres differential has dropped off significantly from the start of the year to Round 22.

Ben Hunt copped his share of flak for Saturday’s loss to Parramatta, which was warranted, but these numbers show the forward pack just isn’t up to scratch.

Considering it boasts Origin players Tyson Frizell, Tariq Sims, Jack de Belin, and international James Graham, the form of this Dragons pack leaves a lot to be desired.

At the start of the season they were racking up 400 metres more than their opponents. On Saturday they gave up more than 600 metres to the Eels.

The halves will shoulder a lot of the blame, but the forwards must also come under the microscope.

www.foxsports.com.au
 

Crush

Coach
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2018 is the killer in those stats above. We were 1st all year until 10 weeks to go. Then boom! Losing 9 of last 10 is well onnthe cards.
Imagine if someone said we would be 1st all year and then lose 9 of last 10 games!
 

dragon-83

Juniors
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Chokers! The stunning graph that highlights St George Illawarra’s big problem
DRAGONS

simon_brunsdon.jpg

87904624271bd4b9b926223f5cd9b599

The Dragons' worrying trend of choking.Source: FOX SPORTS
“CHOKE” is the taboo word inside the four walls of Dragons HQ, but there’s no denying the reputation St George Illawarra is building.

The club looked like the best thing going just a couple of short months ago when they led the NRL. They looked a sure thing to take out the minor premiership, and bookies had them at short odds to win the title in 2018.

Fast forward to Round 23 and the Red V are tumbling down the ladder, now sitting outside the top four and struggling big time.








A 40-4 loss at the hands of competition also-ran Parramatta on Saturday is their lowest point … so far.









HUNT’S NIGHTMARE: $6 million man’s shocking stats



693542_640x360_large_20180813120605.jpg

Lazy Hunt gifts Eels a try

0:30
In 2017 they amazingly spent the first 18 weeks of the season inside the top eight, holding top spot for two rounds early in the year, before dramatically falling away on form.

Their slide was so bad last year they fell out of finals contention altogether.

Their reputation as chokers was well and truly set after that dismal 2017, but no one expected it to be quite so bad this season.

This year the Dragons have sat in first place for 14 weeks in total. They momentarily dropped to second for one round, before reclaiming the number one spot and staying there for three weeks post-Origin.

But their decline over the past two months is stark, and worrying.

“Choke” is the best way to describe it.



693541_640x360_large_20180813120357.jpg

Dragon unfazed by thumping?

0:28
STORY OF THE SEASONS

Here is the ladder position of the Dragons, in order from round 1 to the end of the home-and-away season, for each of the past five seasons.

The trend is clearly when they start the season well they slide down the ladder towards the end.

Steve Price was ruthlessly sacked from the coaching chair after a few losses in 2014, replaced by the man who now wears the crown.

Season 2014 (Steve Price sacked mid-year): 3rd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 6th, 9th, 6th, 9th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 13th, 12th, 11th, 12th, 10th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th

Season 2015: 12th, 15th, 12th, 11th, 8th, 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 4th, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 7th, 9th, 10th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, lost first final

Season 2016: 9th, 13th, 13th, 12th, 14th, 14th, 13th, 9th, 11th, 7th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 12th, 11th, 11th, 11th, 11th

Season 2017: 6th, 3rd, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 5th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 9th

Season 2018*: 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th

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Fox Sports Lab highlights the drop off in Dragons' run metres differential during games this season.Source: FOX SPORTS
FORWARD FAILURE

It’s hard to pinpoint the reason for St George Illawarra’s ability to get worse as a season drags on.

But this graphic (see above) from Fox Sports Labhighlights a disturbing trend for the team this season.

The run metres differential has dropped off significantly from the start of the year to Round 22.

Ben Hunt copped his share of flak for Saturday’s loss to Parramatta, which was warranted, but these numbers show the forward pack just isn’t up to scratch.

Considering it boasts Origin players Tyson Frizell, Tariq Sims, Jack de Belin, and international James Graham, the form of this Dragons pack leaves a lot to be desired.

At the start of the season they were racking up 400 metres more than their opponents. On Saturday they gave up more than 600 metres to the Eels.

The halves will shoulder a lot of the blame, but the forwards must also come under the microscope.

www.foxsports.com.au
In this same article on foxsports website there is actually a video goes for around 4 minutes Mick Ennis makes some very valid points he says the players should not be listening to the outside noise in regards to whats been said about the team in media and other sources and the players them selves have get off social media for a while really bunker down and talk as a team what they want to achieve at the back end of the season and do they want dictate how they finish the season or allow the ouside talk dictate how their season finishes.
 
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In this same article on foxsports website there is actually a video goes for around 4 minutes Mick Ennis makes some very valid points he says the players should not be listening to the outside noise in regards to whats been said about the team in media and other sources and the players them selves have get off social media for a while really bunker down and talk as a team what they want to achieve at the back end of the season and do they want dictate how they finish the season or allow the ouside talk dictate how their season finishes.
Maybe Ennis should take over for the rest of the season because McGregor is not capable of doing it
 

Banjo2014

Juniors
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Just throwing it out there/

If Doustie has the balls to let Macgregor go at the end of this year and hires Trent Barrett - would it be a package deal with Cartwright and if so what happens to Young and Hornby.
 

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